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yes its not possible with the window settings (cause there you only can activate it as standard input device but that doesnt make it "listen" to it all the time )
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Oct 2016 00:54 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Oct 2016 15:03 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Oct 2016 17:20 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Oct 2016 18:40 Post subject: |
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Look how smug he is with his smoky modern glass and different floor height utilizing palace and his levitating turn table while completely ignoring the actual purpose of his device by sitting so much off axis, not even looking in a sensible direction...
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Oct 2016 18:29 Post subject: |
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Ah I didn't went with any speakers whatsoever.
2.0 setups are not bassy enough or ugly or something is wrong with them(didn't heard mackie yet) and I already have 2.1 setup which is cambridge audio.... 15yo speakers with ton of cables.
I will wait it out. For now it's nice having super clean desk and just using koss porta pro and fiio e10k
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Oct 2016 18:32 Post subject: |
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| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Oct 2016 12:11 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Oct 2016 16:00 Post subject: |
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| Nui wrote: | | The way I see it, 2.1 is actually the inherently problematic design, due to crossing over to a single unit for bass often at a high frequency. |
A common number thrown around is 80 Hz, where localisation fails completely.
| wikipedia wrote: | | As the frequency drops below 80 Hz it becomes difficult or impossible to use either time difference or level difference to determine a sound's lateral source, because the phase difference between the ears becomes too small for a directional evaluation. |
But wikipedias source does not actually seem to say that. Perhaps one should test that on his own to make sure.
The following page provides sweeps for this purpose. Haven't tested it yet. With headphones I locate the sound at lower frequencies, but that is most likely for reasons not applicable to speakers http://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_basslocalization.php
Though be aware that this test requires speakers capable of it if you want to hear your actual limit. A subwoofer can be audible even at it's lowest frequency if there is a problem. E.g. port noise for a bass reflex box, or rattling of the enclosure.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Oct 2016 19:28 Post subject: |
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| Nui wrote: | | Nui wrote: | | The way I see it, 2.1 is actually the inherently problematic design, due to crossing over to a single unit for bass often at a high frequency. |
A common number thrown around is 80 Hz, where localisation fails completely.
| wikipedia wrote: | | As the frequency drops below 80 Hz it becomes difficult or impossible to use either time difference or level difference to determine a sound's lateral source, because the phase difference between the ears becomes too small for a directional evaluation. |
But wikipedias source does not actually seem to say that. Perhaps one should test that on his own to make sure.
The following page provides sweeps for this purpose. Haven't tested it yet. With headphones I locate the sound at lower frequencies, but that is most likely for reasons not applicable to speakers http://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_basslocalization.php
Though be aware that this test requires speakers capable of it if you want to hear your actual limit. A subwoofer can be audible even at it's lowest frequency if there is a problem. E.g. port noise for a bass reflex box, or rattling of the enclosure. |
You might as well stop while you're ahead lol. |
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Oct 2016 20:05 Post subject: |
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I am not sure how this is a 2.1 problem in general or specifically. Any setup which includes a subwoofer will need crossover at a certain frequency and that frequency will largely depend on the capabilities of your speakers, listening environment and placement. If properly set up, you won't have any problems with them (surely not if you are just aiming for a decent entertainment system and not for studio-grade precision).
My 5.1 system with small type speakers has crossovers from 150 to 200Hz - set that way automatically by using basic microphone measurements. If I didn't know better I would swear that all the bass is coming from the speakers. Switch off the sub, however, and suddenly those things sound like tin cans, making you realise just how much that .1 gives you.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Oct 2016 22:40 Post subject: |
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Anyone heard bose companion 2 series iii ?
I guess its crap. Just asking cause they look like what I want, so small and non glossy.
mackie cr3 is probably still the best but more expensive (not much thought) and bigger
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 01:46 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | Anyone heard bose companion 2 series iii ?
I guess its crap. Just asking cause they look like what I want, so small and non glossy.
mackie cr3 is probably still the best but more expensive (not much thought) and bigger |
Did you read what you wrote? lol |
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 10:01 Post subject: |
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Oh 2 pages back. But thats a rather general statement. For example I think skullcandy have some very good on ear headphones
Lol mackie cr3 and microlab solo6 costs as much as those simple bose. No competition there
how is other stuff like maudio av32 or alesis elevate 3 ? solo6 is quite too big
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 22:53 Post subject: |
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MAUDIO is a really popular brand next to Audioengine, Rokit and another brand I can't think of, but that runs into a problem of yours, MAUDIO makes monitors, aka a more flat eq.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 23:08 Post subject: |
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Can't you just equalize a speaker with a flat response?
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2016 01:03 Post subject: |
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Ive got the solo 6c and I fucking love em. A great buy for the price. Bass is increased when they are in a corner. They have bass and treble controls too. Also, I know some people stuff the speakers with cotton to improve bass boomines. I havent felt the need for it yet.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2016 00:12 Post subject: |
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I cannot decide for nothing even though the choice is not that big in 100$ range
edit: main concern now is choosing between Mackie cr3 and cr4 probably.
There is just size and maybe bass difference. I have room for both but not sure if I want to spend more money over cr3. Desk stands in a corner of living room (small).
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2016 00:53 Post subject: |
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You will have the right to return them for a while though right?
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2016 01:04 Post subject: |
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Sure I guess. Depends where I will buy them. I did that with display I disliked once. It was a hassle and it took month for my money to get back to me, so I would like to avoid it if possible but yes, I can buy almost without risk I guess
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2016 02:29 Post subject: |
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I would say if it's only down to the CR3 or CR4, just get the CR4 if not only for the bigger woofer.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2016 14:07 Post subject: |
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In general a bigger woofer is not a guarantee for better sound, especially in a 2 way system, due to possible directivity issues (bigger woofer > earlier beaming in frequency). However, 4" isn't that large still, so in this case it hopefully is only better.
Btw official sources market the CR3 as 80Hz - 20kHz and the CR4 with 70Hz - 20kHz and some random review liked the change... however he reported port noise on the CR4
@ KC
I think the possibilty to return it is still a very good thing to have. You don't seem to really know what you want (which is understandable!) and you don't know what you will get exactly anyway.
In my recent and ongoing research of good sound reproduction I happened to stumble upon speakers which came with more measurements, removing some guesswork and I was confident that these speakers would sound good to you. So I looked for the price and found it to be just a bit over your budget, by a factor of 30 or something. So now im really confident these would sound good 
@ all
To everyone really interested in good sound I can recommend this book and it can be found as a pdf lying around somewhere, so you dont have to take my word on it
Floyd Toole, Sound Reproduction: The Acoustics and Psychoacoustics of Loudspeakers and Rooms, https://www.amazon.de/Sound-Reproduction-Psychoacoustics-Loudspeakers-Engineering/dp/0240520092
I've always hated research on sound related stuff. Far too many people hear simply what they want to believe in. This book backs up claims with actual tests with people including preference tests. So less of the typical "audiophile" dreamscape and more hard data. It should provide a much clearer idea of what design goals lead to good sound reproduction. While it makes a convincing case for multi channel sound being the only way to achieve all goals, the book still applies to stereo.
What I found most interesting so far is that the idea of heavy acoustic treatment to reduce general reverberation and very commonly in audiophile circles to treat the earliest reflections, does not seem to be what most people actually want. In fact, given some restraints, early reflection actually even improve sound, even intelligibility of speech for example. Plus they fill in gaps that can otherwise actually be problematic. Ironically these gaps (caused by comb filtering) were one reason why heavy acoustic treatment was started in the first place... in short people made the assumption of how some measurements would correlate with how our ears and mostly brain actually deals with sound, but didn't actually investigate it and perhaps couldn't at the time it started.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2016 16:12 Post subject: |
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Opinions on Sennheiser HD558 and HD598? Those are on sale at amazon.es and Im tempted. My PC360 are breaking apart and the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro I bought two years ago are closed and I hate them, ill try to sell them for around 80€ or so. With that Sennheiser sale im quite tempted with the 598, so any thoughs?
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2016 20:34 Post subject: |
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| DimasL wrote: | Opinions on Sennheiser HD558 and HD598? Those are on sale at amazon.es and Im tempted. My PC360 are breaking apart and the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro I bought two years ago are closed and I hate them, ill try to sell them for around 80€ or so. With that Sennheiser sale im quite tempted with the 598, so any thoughs?
Sennheiser HD 558 - 89€
Sennheiser HD 598 - 129€ |
just get the 598. Basically the same thing just improved drivers. If you don't like the color they have the special edition ones that are black. |
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