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what the fuck should suck that much power?
i have connected 6 drives too, and it never nearly came to a critial usage of my 525w (even with my old 230W TDP oced 770)
and drives are the only things which can stack up the usage on startup for them to spin up, but thats not much
even with oced i7 6700k,4 ram sticks, 6 sata devices, 3 extra fans and a 1070 the usage is not even 400w
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AnarchoS
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Dec 2016 13:40 Post subject: |
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I'm thinking about getting a sli later.
I have 9 hdds. Added PCIE sata.
Big tower with 3x22cm fans. 3 12cm fans, 2 cpu noctua 15cm fans.
A.F.A.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Dec 2016 13:44 Post subject: |
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Quality 650W is more than enough for modern GTX 1070 SLI PC with handfull of SSDs/HDDs and fans.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Dec 2016 14:02 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | Quality 650W is more than enough for modern GTX 1070 SLI PC with handfull of SSDs/HDDs and fans. |
When you turn on the comp all the motors spike the power so you have to account for that.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Dec 2016 14:04 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Dec 2016 14:25 Post subject: |
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the only spikes are generated by the harddrives when turning on, during normale usage they are using 10w (and most even less), for turning on maybe up to 20. ssds are not even worth mentioning with their max ~5 during heavy usage
but yes even for 1070 sli 650w is most likely enough. but just forget about sli, its not worth it and for sure not with 2 midrange cards like 1070. if you want more power in the future settle for one 1080ti
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Dec 2016 14:58 Post subject: |
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Also need to remember that lets say 650W Platinum unit is actually rated much watts more at lower efficiency, for example this Seasonic unit what i have can draw like over 800W until safety circuits kicks in. I ran for months without any issues 2700K @ 5Ghz, 2x GTX 780SLI (vbios modded and overclocked to the max) without any issues, apart from massive SLI shit issues, and yes stay away from SLI.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Dec 2016 13:28 Post subject: |
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New, expensive hardware running on 10+ yo PSU... seems like a recipe for success  
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Dec 2016 13:33 Post subject: |
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where is the fucking problem? yes hardware ages and it wont be as efficient as it was years ago. but if its a proper device it wont kill anything else when it dies cause it has enough protection.and why should it die in the first place? if it was always used or stored in proper climate there is no reason for it to die. hardware nowadays is even less power consumpting etc
absolutely no reason to get rid of old stuff if you can still use it and its working fine (means has all connectors needed and is powerful enough and for example works fine with specific standby power needed for haswell+ generation)
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Dec 2016 13:58 Post subject: |
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Yeah, why waste a fortune like 60-70€ on a new proper PSU?  
Also, berb nailed it.
Don't risk your system by neglecting something as important as the PSU FFS 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Dec 2016 15:16 Post subject: |
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@Bob Barnsen
capacitors do not age. they can become faulty. then the liquid inside gets out, because the capacitor has a defective casing. then you speak of "deaf" capacitors. any capacitor can live forever. you just can't say how Long it lasts. as Long as you can measure the right capacity(in Farad), the capacitor is well. btw: electronics that do their Job do not Need to be replaced.
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Dec 2016 15:44 Post subject: |
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I keep my old PSU's... with my old parts. New MB+CPU I'll always go with a new PSU. And yeah they can still be good, fine or doing their job perfectly... but they can go do that with the old parts rather than the new.
It's not the biggest cost, you'll be replacing everything anyway so the perfect time to do so and you can bundle it up with the other parts you are replacing. So for me the time to keep a PSU in is rare. So far it's always been replaced when: It breaks or I upgrade my Mobo+CPU.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Dec 2016 15:58 Post subject: |
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| kittygoat wrote: | @Bob Barnsen
capacitors do not age. they can become faulty. then the liquid inside gets out, because the capacitor has a defective casing. then you speak of "deaf" capacitors. any capacitor can live forever. you just can't say how Long it lasts. as Long as you can measure the right capacity(in Farad), the capacitor is well. |
Not ALL capacitors age, but some do:
http://www.johansondielectrics.com/ceramic-capacitor-aging-made-simple
http://www.repeater-builder.com/tech-info/pdfs/replacing-capacitors-from-emerson-corp.pdf
| kittygoat wrote: | | btw: electronics that do their Job do not Need to be replaced. |
Dumb approach for a device that powers and, in more than one way, protects systems that are much more valuable than that device itself... IMO IMO IMO
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Dec 2016 16:05 Post subject: |
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@tonizito
i have learned what i wrote. three and a half years i had to learn Radio and tellyengineer. i did not work as one later, but what i learned about capacitors and electronic parts, i have been told. so its just an opinion. to me its Logical, so i think its true.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Dec 2016 16:17 Post subject: |
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Same here men, but from what I've learned and from those links it's clear that there is aging. Solid state capacitors (some of the more recently used and spreading more and more) age better, especially when you're working with regular/lower temps.
Thing is, 7-12 years ago the majority used on most PSU's were the ol' electrolytic ones, and those do age and degrade over time.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Dec 2016 12:50 Post subject: |
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So white the current drivers and performance on dx 11/12 titles what card would you get between the rx 480 and gtx 1060 ?
Per aspera ad astra
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Dec 2016 12:54 Post subject: |
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| RainyDay wrote: | | So white the current drivers and performance on dx 11/12 titles what card would you get between the rx 480 and gtx 1060 ? |
Whichever is cheapest in your area. Not enough of a difference to compensate for potential deals from the stores/websites in your area.
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Dec 2016 13:01 Post subject: |
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| Kanint wrote: | | RainyDay wrote: | | So white the current drivers and performance on dx 11/12 titles what card would you get between the rx 480 and gtx 1060 ? |
Whichever is cheapest in your area. Not enough of a difference to compensate for potential deals from the stores/websites in your area. |
they are pretty much the same.. that goes for all the stock / oc'ed versions of both cards
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Dec 2016 13:22 Post subject: |
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They are pretty much the same but nvidia has physx and flex support.
If this does not matter I would get one that runs quieter
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd Dec 2016 16:31 Post subject: |
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| RainyDay wrote: | | they are pretty much the same.. that goes for all the stock / oc'ed versions of both cards |
If there are very specific games you want to play, I'd look at their benchmarks.
On average, the 1060 is a bit faster than the 480 in DX11, while the 480 becomes faster in current patched-in DX12/Vulkan games.
If you're planning to replace your monitor soon, you can always take a look at G-Sync and FreeSync monitors. If you find one of them to be more attractive than the other, it could help you choose a card.
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Dec 2016 15:16 Post subject: |
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| RainyDay wrote: | | Kanint wrote: | | RainyDay wrote: | | So white the current drivers and performance on dx 11/12 titles what card would you get between the rx 480 and gtx 1060 ? |
Whichever is cheapest in your area. Not enough of a difference to compensate for potential deals from the stores/websites in your area. |
they are pretty much the same.. that goes for all the stock / oc'ed versions of both cards |
grab the 1060 if it's the same price, especially if you have an i5 or weaker CPU.
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| Posted: Sun, 1st Jan 2017 18:07 Post subject: |
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I find it hilarious that a big company like AMD tries to portray itself as the underdog. What is this supposed to mean? The small indie company is trying to shake up the market?
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| Posted: Sun, 1st Jan 2017 18:40 Post subject: |
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make some noise [for us, because we can no longer afford advertising #battered] ?
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