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Prandur




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2017 21:04    Post subject:
Denuvo is there in order to increase their profit. More profitability means more/better/bigger games. So, technically, I don't think they're wrong.

Personally, I'll either wait for a crack or buy it when I run out of stuff to play. Never understood this "hate" for companies using Denuvo - I'm annoyed since it's harder to pirate stuff, sure, but I can't hate a company for making a rational business decision.
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2017 21:09    Post subject:
Prandur wrote:
Denuvo is there in order to increase their profit. More profitability means more/better/bigger games. So, technically, I don't think they're wrong.

Personally, I'll either wait for a crack or buy it when I run out of stuff to play. Never understood this "hate" for companies using Denuvo - I'm annoyed since it's harder to pirate stuff, sure, but I can't hate a company for making a rational business decision.

i have to agree.
they just stated that with denuvo they can assure more games because of profits from it and it's quite fair from a tales fan perspective.
nothing more, nothing less.


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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2017 21:12    Post subject:
@Prandur
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increase their profit. More profitability means more/better/bigger games. So, technically, I don't think they're wrong.


The thing is there is still zero proof denuvo increases sales in general (not in the first weeks)

In fact the opposite is more likely lol

More and more players refuse to buy games that have infamous anti-consumer drm protection.

And when developers say they believe drm is anti-consumer and specifically market their game as a non-denuvo one, the players express their gratitude and pledge their money in support of this developer and a (good) game Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2017 21:17    Post subject:
no proof?
how many people bought doom/JC3/far cry/watch dogs and many other games, if it weren't for D? Laughing

the only thing i'm livid mad, it's the amount of dlc's they gonna implement in the game.... (fuck bandai namco on that)


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Prandur




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2017 21:22    Post subject:
The thing is they don't need a proof for that; it's a business decision, not a research article Smile If they believe that it will increase their profit and that it won't significantly impact performance, then there's nothing irrational or inherently wrong in deciding to use Denuvo.
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Jan 2017 21:31    Post subject:
@Guyver

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how many people bought doom/JC3/far cry/watch dogs and many other games, if it weren't for D?


You don't know that. No one knows that. That's the point. Laughing
But it is safe to assume DRm can probably increase sales of mediocre\bad games..at first. Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jan 2017 14:57    Post subject:
Meh..still looks like shit.. I presume it's the same engine?


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jan 2017 15:25    Post subject:
Yep same engine, guessing it'll have similar shortcomings too such as environmental detail and the like, this time it's 64-bit though but still uses DirectX 9 on PC. Smile

EDIT:
Edited the post to try and make it a bit better.

EDIT:
Looks like the Steam preload is up now. Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jan 2017 13:31    Post subject:
i'm still full of games to play, so i will pass for a few months.
so i will actually try to finish that zestiria sitting in my hdd for so many time. Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jan 2017 00:14    Post subject:
released on steam with the D in the ass

some video reviews


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jan 2017 01:03    Post subject:
Hmmm it looks like it is much better characters and story-wise than Zestiria..But I still don't feel like paying the full price..


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jan 2017 08:54    Post subject:
It'll be cracked eventually, by that time any other patches or side-DLC (Whether it's some pay-2-win item bonus - yes there is one of those. - or a dress-up outfit pack.) should be available too which could improve the experience. (Patches primarily, although if you absolutely have to dress up the female party members as maids there's a DLC for that already too...)

EDIT: Zestiria catered to both genders too though leaned a bit more towards female fan service, or fan service for males with certain preferences. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jan 2017 09:40    Post subject:
I like the second screenshot Very Happy

Was there any girl on girl action? Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jan 2017 11:10    Post subject:
They joke around a bit in some of the skits but the only "action" was in the Alisha Story (dungeon) DLC which is somewhat of a extra epilogue for the game.

Some random screens of that, the little plush thing is part of the accessory customization which you can get very (very) creative with due to how flexible it is.

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This is an actual spoiler regarding Zestiria and it's ending.
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Was going to be a paid DLC but those two things above in the spoiler made some of the more "passionate" (crazed) fans a little bit miffed so as a apology they made the Alisha DLC into free content. (It kinda sucks though as it's little more than a glorified extra-long dungeon.)



EDIT: As to get back from whatever the hell I just wrote and onto Berseria again I don't quite know how things will be, they do still joke around a bit and the entire damn beginning part has that whole this. -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamato_nadeshiko to it because the ideal Japanese woman is a myth or something, or just a potted flower. Razz


Stuff on the opening part of the game here, probably spoilers even so because I fleshed it out a bit.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jan 2017 12:55    Post subject:
yeah we already talked about that thing on the sword/magic impale. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jan 2017 14:01    Post subject:
How good is anti-hero stuff in this game? Can I turn evil like in,say, Arcanum? Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jan 2017 14:15    Post subject:
Yeah, putting aside all the joking and such around it it's about the same thing really in both variants of the scene but in a slightly different way so I wonder if it didn't snowball a bit or how it's called, people on Steam claiming they won't buy the game and such because of that whereas I'm fairly sure any adjustments done surrounding said scene are pretty minor.

Although until someone either does a side-by-side compare or just dumps the Japanese version of certain game files and cutscene files it's difficult to say to what extent.

They did keep Velvets default outfit though which eh I suppose there's a reason behind it but I'm not a huge fan of it, then again anime outfits and practicality. Very Happy
(Alisha and her teacher and their "armour" for example in Zestiria.)
(Armor should protect the chest, not emphasize it. Razz )

EDIT: Well I guess anime or JRPG's in general isn't really the only genre with impractical armor or outfits, have to look badass and all that.

One of the accessories in Zestiria is a afro, various animal tails and collars exist as well including glasses and wing, halos, little plush figurines and emote bubbles so yeah.

Can freely resize and rotate most of them too but the little pink cat tail with a fish on it's end is locked because rotating that 180 would be indecent and they can't have that. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jan 2017 22:23    Post subject:
I suppose I just like playing games and not trying to sexualise every tiny aspect of them...


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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2017 01:43    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Tales of Berseria-CPY

Quote:
- The game is updated to the version 1.48.00#193
- All released DLCs are included

All hail CPY!
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2017 01:59    Post subject:
Fuck Bandai,They are the ones who pushed The 'D' to this game,glad it was one of the fastest cracked Denuvo games,well deserve for Both Bandai and Denuvo Very Happy




Guyver wrote:
no proof?
how many people bought doom/JC3/far cry/watch dogs and many other games, if it weren't for D? Laughing


Aside from DOOM(Which I didn't even know had Denuvo when bought it) I didn't bought any of these games,Thanks Denuvo for helping gone pirate bear patience mode,helping me to save some money Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2017 05:53    Post subject:
Tales Of Berseria-CPY

Beaten to it Wink


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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2017 05:57    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Tales of Berseria-CPY

Quote:
- The game is updated to the version 1.48.00#193
- All released DLCs are included


So Much Win

Now lets try the isodemo and decide if i will buy it on sale.
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2017 11:59    Post subject:
Yeah was waiting for this So Much Win
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Prandur




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2017 13:25    Post subject:
Bah I just bought it a few days ago, thinking it wouldn't get cracked for some time. Bloody good job CPY, and shame on me for not waiting longer Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2017 13:31    Post subject:
Prandur : did you played it???


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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2017 13:34    Post subject:
Finished it a while back so I can't check version number but I guess this doesn't include the latest update released a few days ago, though then again that might have been mainly DLC compatibility with some outfit pack, game itself isn't really too buggy though the PC port has some problems or quirks or what to call them.

TBFix or what the project is called can be helpful for that but this port is a bit better than Zestiria so it's only partially broken. Razz
(Odd to hear QLOC being involved in this as I had thought they were pretty capable but I guess it varies from game to game and how much time they have and whatever budget there is.)
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Feb 2017 13:39    Post subject:
@JB : its the update from Feb 2 fixing some AI and sound bugs
there was later some "exe" patch on Wendesday .. but no changelog ... so i guess nothing important

Any impressions about the game???


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