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couleur
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| Nalo wrote: | Ethics. Morality. Questions of principle. Is there any sense in these kinds of question? 'How should we act?"
Are these nonsense questions? |
Have you ever thought about death?
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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couleur
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Some people think that death makes any moral or ethic considerations worthless, since you'd die either way. But imagine eternity. Any action would be totally meaningless aswell, since its span would drown in eternity. But death brings tension to our life. It (knowledge ofnother peoples death) tells you, your time is limited, your choices are therfore limited. What are you going to do? How are we going to make this life bearable? What do we want to be? Can we find happyness? Do I need to get along with others? etc.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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couleur
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^ That was epicurean. (that part about death)
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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couleur
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It was, whether willingly or unwillingly.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Emotions are never rational, so what a pointless statement.
That said, not wanting to die is incredibly sane and human.
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One OS to rule them all,
One OS to find them,
One OS to bring them all
and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Redmond
where the Shadows lie. |
..:: Life - A sexually transmitted disease which always ends in death. There is currently no known cure::..  |
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Morphineus
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So nothing is wrong? 
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| paxsali wrote: | @couleur
The fear of death in an irrational fear. A phobie. I call it... thanatophobia.
According to our current scientific understanding it is safe to say that it's impossible to experience death.
Meaning that you will never know how it is like to be dead, just as much as you don't know what it was like when you did not exist before your birth/conception.
Therefore, the fear of not existing anymore after one's death event is as irrational and unjustified as the state of not being for 13.8 billion years after the big bang until your birthday (for arguments sake, but actually it's at some point during the pregnancy which is difficult to pin down). |
Thinking in terms of pre and post existence and then applying fear (which is something we experience, in life) doesn't make any sense.
If someone can fear losing his job or his home then i think it's fairly rational to say any sane person can fear losing his life, seizing to exist.. It also seems rather selfish to believe that death is only about you, it's not. To fear what will happen to people you can no longer help etc, that's also a part of fearing death. I think you are applying this in a very strange way, like the fear of death is like fearing something that you will experience, like pain, it's not..
Of course we should fear dying, life is all we have (as far as we know), the fear and knowledge of death is what makes us humans. Everyone in their right mind fears it, those who say they don't are either suicidal or lying, or they found some little comfort in lies (religion).
Edit: ok that was a really old post but whatever. philosophy away, don't let death stop you
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