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Sorry guys looks like I'll have an unpopular opinion in this thread, but with this game, i would honestly prefer to just watch it as a movie. The story and characters are entertaining but the entire game can be defeated with an autohotkey script to press one button.
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Feb 2017 13:13 Post subject: |
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@AmpegV4
| Quote: | | i would honestly prefer to just watch it as a movie. |
Same here  Well, not a movie but a tv series (12 episodes)
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Feb 2017 13:30 Post subject: |
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| AmpegV4 wrote: | | the entire game can be defeated with an autohotkey script to press one button. |
That's not exactly a new thing though. I remember leaving Tales of Vesperia running overnight with a button held down with a rubber band to get some achievement (one of those giganto monsters would spawn infinite adds).
Edit: Ah, that was it. Rita casting Tidal Wave for 8 hours.
Blah, blah, blah...TIDAL WAVE!
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Przepraszam
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| Posted: Wed, 22nd Feb 2017 01:24 Post subject: |
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I just got the hoverboard? Greatest thing ever fucking invented in this game.
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Wed, 22nd Feb 2017 17:35 Post subject: |
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What is wrong with you people... watching the game as a movie?
I am still playing it now, and I certainly don't see why you would want to autohotkey the game - I find some of the larger bosses quite challenging, but then I actually play the game to enjoy it, not to complete it asap.
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Feb 2017 00:31 Post subject: |
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I'm not talking about powergaming here, I'm talking about gameplay lacking any challenge, depth to keep me interested in participating.
I like:
The Characters,
The Setting,
How the story is unfolding,
Presentation is passable.
The gameplay is just boring though, here is every battle in the game on intense difficulty:
press button to check enemies.. oh 'weak to hidden artes' / 'martial artes' etc.
press button over and over to use 'hidden artes' / 'martial artes'.. win game.
+ 100 hours later, are you kidding me??
Fuck me - I've even skipped 70% of these boring ass battles and I'm under levelled 5-10 levels on enemies, still owning everything effortlessly.
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Feb 2017 00:56 Post subject: |
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I have to agree - the game has heart, but the combat is fucking terrible. About 10 hours into the game, I was just standing there without attacking, watching 3 other members cleaning up the place, winning one fight after another. There's no thinking involved, no depth at all and I haven't even died once.
What the hell happened to these RPG's? I remember in older FF games you actually had to think and plan what's your next move is going to be, but this is just pure nonsense and waste of time.
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Feb 2017 10:05 Post subject: |
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| Meseder wrote: | I have to agree - the game has heart, but the combat is fucking terrible. About 10 hours into the game, I was just standing there without attacking, watching 3 other members cleaning up the place, winning one fight after another. There's no thinking involved, no depth at all and I haven't even died once.
What the hell happened to these RPG's? I remember in older FF games you actually had to think and plan what's your next move is going to be, but this is just pure nonsense and waste of time. |
Sure you can do that with normal monster encounters but it takes longer and it's boring, you can do that in every Tales game, Star Ocean or whatever if you want, in fact i can't remember many JRPGs with hard normal monster/rnd encounters at all, it's mostly just press X for FFs (i don't know what you remember but not a single one was actually hard in that regard),DQs, other JRPGs and if it isn't they have some easily exploitable pattern ala SMT/Persona,FFX.
Bosses take a bit more strategy this game has way more battle mechanics then any other entry in the series i think and if it's still too easy unlock the hardest difficulty and play on that.
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Feb 2017 14:47 Post subject: |
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Unlocking the hardest difficulty level requires fighting a certain battle though which if you're not observant that's going to be a pain, otherwise it's pretty easy.
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Damage reflection.
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Can also put difficult to the easiest and eliminate all pesky resistances and this fight becomes a total joke but on the flip side eliminating resistances also eliminates weaknesses so you can't combo those for getting a very high overall battle rating or score points which is useful if you're planning on a NG+ run.
| Spoiler: | It's also possible to unlock the highest tier of items in the extra dungeon outside of NG+ but even with the highest difficulty level (And enemies near the level cap.) that's a bit of a grind and you don't really need this gear for the regular game if you maintain and upgrade equipment as you find it or as it unlocks in stores around the world. |
(At least upgrading the shop level this time is universal for each store in the game and not just one that one shopkeeper but it's still extremely costly to max this out.)
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Feb 2017 15:02 Post subject: |
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If a modder wants to get on his high horse about piracy and stop his mod from working on pirated copies, then more power to him. But if his mod is deleting files then it is malware.
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Feb 2017 22:33 Post subject: |
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| DCB wrote: | | If a modder wants to get on his high horse about piracy and stop his mod from working on pirated copies, then more power to him. But if his mod is deleting files then it is malware. |
Dude can get literary fucked. I have never seen anyone so butthurt? And he is not even dev for the game?!?!  |
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Feb 2017 23:13 Post subject: |
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What a cunt.
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Feb 2017 23:56 Post subject: |
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You don't often see characters with tragic pasts being this one dimensional. She's mad, i get it. She wants revenge, i get it. But does she have to brood 24/7 for whats likely months/years? absolutely fucking not.
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Mar 2017 18:29 Post subject: |
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Just finished. Game was pretty good overall and combat was way better then ToZ.
8/10
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Mar 2017 20:59 Post subject: |
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There is a bit of the whole "independent strong woman." thing going on but it's also somewhat more traditional (Growing up, becoming independent, finding your place and such things.) and I don't think there's a single black person in the entire game even for the southern islands, might be some same sex relations though but relationship details are handled pretty carefully and without going too in depth into it as is romance though there's some skits about those topics but in a more humorous tone usually.
As for Velvet she kinda broke.
(Generic game spoilers.)
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Everybody breaks in this game at one point or another, Tales of Mind-breakia. 
(Tales of Berserkia too because everybody goes berserk at one point or another or so it felt like at times..)
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EDIT: Characters are young adults / teens too as is the target audience so the game has some darker moments but it's not overly complex or going for some more mature themes or what to call it though it has it's moments, guess it varies from each installment in the Tales series but Symphonia had the whole "inferior being." half-elven racial superiority thing so the games can start out cheery and then do a complete turn and then some other twists, I haven't played too many of these games myself though but from what I've read this is one of the darker stories throughout the entire series although it has lighter moments too.
I guess part of that is the ratings being a bit stricter in Japan with certain themes like violence (Depiction of blood and gore for example.) from my understanding of it but eh it worked pretty well for a JRPG and it does improve over Zestiria though it's a lengthy game so it takes a while for character development to kick in and the backstory events and what not to trigger.
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| Posted: Mon, 6th Mar 2017 09:12 Post subject: |
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| JBeckman wrote: | There is a bit of the whole "independent strong woman." thing going on but it's also somewhat more traditional (Growing up, becoming independent, finding your place and such things.) and I don't think there's a single black person in the entire game even for the southern islands, might be some same sex relations though but relationship details are handled pretty carefully and without going too in depth into it as is romance though there's some skits about those topics but in a more humorous tone usually.
As for Velvet she kinda broke.
(Generic game spoilers.)
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Everybody breaks in this game at one point or another, Tales of Mind-breakia.
(Tales of Berserkia too because everybody goes berserk at one point or another or so it felt like at times..)
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EDIT: Characters are young adults / teens too as is the target audience so the game has some darker moments but it's not overly complex or going for some more mature themes or what to call it though it has it's moments, guess it varies from each installment in the Tales series but Symphonia had the whole "inferior being." half-elven racial superiority thing so the games can start out cheery and then do a complete turn and then some other twists, I haven't played too many of these games myself though but from what I've read this is one of the darker stories throughout the entire series although it has lighter moments too.
I guess part of that is the ratings being a bit stricter in Japan with certain themes like violence (Depiction of blood and gore for example.) from my understanding of it but eh it worked pretty well for a JRPG and it does improve over Zestiria though it's a lengthy game so it takes a while for character development to kick in and the backstory events and what not to trigger. |
Yeah it's probably the longest Tales game so far (not counting extra stuff i think Graces F was even longer in that regard) just the main story alone took me around 60 hours.
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Apr 2017 18:05 Post subject: |
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You don't, or at least not easily from my understanding of this thing and how it works.
Primarily it's down to how only the PS3 and PS4 Japanese versions of the game have these changes so the PC version will be using the alternate cutscene.
It's not a pre-rendered file either but a in-engine scene so modding it is likely close to impossible.
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Apr 2017 18:25 Post subject: |
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Far as I know it's only that scene, even the text references will describe him being stabbed by a sword and not impaled indirectly via magic because they couldn't be bothered to alter that.
EDIT: Oh and the JP and Eng voices have separate scripts so if you use JP voices then due to lack of Q&A there's numerous typos and other grammar errors though most of them are pretty small but a couple of scenes get a bit weird particularly later on in the game.
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Apr 2017 14:10 Post subject: |
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It drains a lot of health, early on it works well enough but later battles make it a bit tougher as enemies can take more damage and have access to more effective spells to counter your character.
There's also incentives to up the difficulty level above normal for some of those glacite stones to take effect and also for grinding up the battle grade points which are used both for New Game+ and also for the equipment mastery progression.
Once you start using dark bottles and fighting in deadly encounters (Two mobs close together in a dark cloud.) things get a lot more challenging but it also gives a massive amount of gold, XP, grade and item rewards.
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Apr 2017 16:38 Post subject: |
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Yeah, it's advised to play as high a difficulty level as you can manage. Much later on in the game, with the exception of bosses, it's incredibly trivial to spam the claw moves, and win fights with ease.
My advice, is to cycle through all the different characters. Some of the magic users are VERY challenging I found, and yet still have great move sets, and coupled with swapping to another character during a combo.. it can be much more satisfying than just sticking with Velvet.
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Apr 2017 18:20 Post subject: |
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I felt that cycling through at least some characters was a must at the highest difficulty... the chars I used the most were one magic-user whose "r" move could cancel all spellcasts and had an excellent meteor move, and Velvet.
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, but now we got a female and it's suddenly not like that. But this girl.. She should lighten the fuck up once in a while. She's so utterly depressingly boring and given Tales track record of character development, i doubt she'll develop a personality anytime soon.
