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I guess it's gonna be so that critics and general audience like it and fans might enjoy it but still pick for "wrong" decisions.
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2017 12:43 Post subject: |
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A hell of a lot "3/5" reviews. Which is not a bad thing, it's just not great. Still, better than many expected 
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/mar/29/ghost-in-the-shell-review-scarlett-johansson-remake
| Quote: | | Johansson does cyberbattle in a westernised reimagining of the Japanese anime classic that proves watchable but doesn’t have the spirit of the original |
3/5
http://www.empireonline.com/movies/ghost-shell-2/review/
| Quote: | | So heavily derivative it doesn’t feel like anything new, and there’s little depth beneath that slick surface. But it’s solid and attractive, at least, with a retro appeal to its cyberpunk stylings. |
3/5
http://www.gamesradar.com/ghost-in-the-shell-review/
| Quote: | | If Ghost never feels fully original – you’ll constantly be reminded of other sci-fis besides 1995’s Ghost, and the final voiceover feels cribbed from Batman Begins – it benefits from feeling self-contained, and moves with much more zip than Sanders’ gloomy Snow White. This is a rare blockbuster that doesn’t sacrifice its standalone quality in a bid to build a franchise. Though if this does end up warranting a follow-up, we wouldn’t need any convincing to dive back into this world. |
3/5
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/reviews/ghost-in-the-shell-scarlett-johansson-is-undeniably-spectacular-rupert-sanders-a7655401.html
| Quote: | | The movie is as much of a hybrid as its lead character. It combines high-minded postmodern philosophising with very generic, often very banal, thriller elements |
3/5
http://www.nme.com/reviews/review/ghost-in-the-shell-review
| Quote: | | But whatever your take on the whitewashing controversy, Ghost in the Shell is no masterpiece. It’s another entertaining but slightly frustrating origin story with one eye on creating a franchise. There’s substance here, but it doesn’t match the film’s glorious style. |
3/5
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2017 13:07 Post subject: |
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its got vacant-faced johnasson in it, with shitloads of cgi. It was always going to be mediocre; for better or worse.. it was always going to 'do well' and was an incredibly 'safe' film to produce, but it was never going to be amazing.
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2017 17:41 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2017 18:34 Post subject: |
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"Large scale audiences" have no more meaning than critics. Individual reviews, be it from critics or not, is where it's at. You find someone with a similar taste to your own and you follow them.
And in the particular case of this film, I'll take individual reviews from fans of the franchise that are familiar with its themes over anyone else. General audiences loved the excrement that is Lucy, and I expect them to love this too.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2017 18:57 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2017 19:14 Post subject: |
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Loved is not the right word because I didn't mean that after seeing it they proclaimed it one of the favorite movies. What I meant is it did spectacularly commercially, so they "loved" going to the cinema for it. General audiences more than rewarded the filmmakers behind it to the point even a "Lucy 2" was announced which doesn't even make sense. After becoming a USB does she become a Dropbox account in the next one?
Also the RT rating is 6.1, about the same as the 6.4 of IMDB.
Not that I was comparing the two in my previous post, I was merely pointing out that I already know audiences will respond well to this movie, even if it's excrement. Not that I believe it will be excrement either; Lucy is truly a very "special" case of a film (one of the worst I've ever seen), it's not that easy to "match" its brilliance
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2017 19:24 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2017 20:49 Post subject: |
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I'm on a phone so shortly. No, LSA have no meaning when it comes to a film being good or not. There are multiple factors that doesn't make them reliable. For example Marvel movies will always have higher scores when in reality they are pretty mediocre and repetitive. Transformers have rather high scores and make a lot of money being really poor movies.
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2017 20:59 Post subject: |
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So long as this movie breaks even on score I think that is decent enough. On IMDB for sure it will get 6+ or higher I bet! 
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2017 21:00 Post subject: |
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Personally, I prefer watching movies with an IMDB score of 7.0+.
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2017 21:02 Post subject: |
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These are all subjective criteria. Yondaime says it has served him very well looking at imdb reviews, who are we to say otherwise?  It just means he has very mainstream taste and as such it largely aligns with the general public's. That's not "bad" (or good, or anything, it just is).
Mine often doesn't align so well I'm afraid. (Which again doesn't mean anything about me as a person).
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2017 22:27 Post subject: |
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| Roach_666 wrote: | | Personally, I prefer watching movies with an IMDB score of 7.0+. |
I too believe that's a good sign, but many high rated movies suck, and some under 7 are great.
Also, fuck the critics and the masses. But I think Lucy was weird ok, and this will be ok. CGI looks bad tho...
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2017 22:54 Post subject: |
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Tickets booked for tomorrow.
May the NFOrce be with you always.
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Mar 2017 23:16 Post subject: |
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I watched it.
I have watched the original many years back, but I recall almost nothing from that. So ..
First off, ScarJo is truly horrible in this. This girl used to know, how to act. Here she does some cringeworthy stuff with her mimicry.
The setting and presentation was okay. The action was okay. The themes were not explored at depth, in fact, it was very shallow. In 2017, when this topic has been already discussed a lot, this wasn't enough.
But it was good fun. Had more substance than usual Hollywood trash. I don't regret going, but I will forget this experience soon.
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| Posted: Thu, 30th Mar 2017 15:58 Post subject: |
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We might be getting an R-rated director's cut or something on home video.
The IMAX preview apparently showed blood but it's gone in the theatrical.
I read that Togusa's role has been cut down significantly.
The girl girl kiss from the trailers is gone, along with other small moments here and there.
And Lorne Balfe seems to have come on board last minute and he rescored some of Clint Mansell's stuff, including the Shelling sequence.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Thu, 30th Mar 2017 22:23 Post subject: |
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https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ghost_in_the_shell_2017/
50%, 5.7/10
| Quote: | | Critics Consensus: Ghost in the Shell boasts cool visuals and a compelling central performance from Scarlett Johansson, even if the end result lacks the magic of the movie's classic source material. |
Still the highest rated anime adaptation ever made (because people are idiots when it comes to Speed Racer, or at least were, today it has a minor cult following).
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Thu, 30th Mar 2017 23:58 Post subject: |
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Having never seen the Manga its based on I have to say it was weird but enjoyable. It was lacking something but not sure what but I did like the movie.
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Mar 2017 16:04 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Mar 2017 19:26 Post subject: |
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It's doing nowhere near Lucy numbers.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-ghost-shell-grabs-18m-thursday-990318
| Quote: | Paramount's Scarlett Johansson-starrer Ghost in the Shell roped in $1.8 million, while animated film The Boss Baby earned $1.5 million in Thursday previews.
Ghost in the Shell is tracking for a domestic debut in the mid-$20-million range as it opens in 3,440 sites. It won't do the stellar numbers that Johansson's Lucy earned in 2014 when it took in $2.8 million in previews on its way to a $43.9 million domestic debut. Paramount is offering up 10 Cloverfield Lane as a comp, which earned $1.8 million Thursday for a $24.7 million opening weekend. |
It'll open about the same as 10 Cloverfield Lane which ended its theatrical run with $110M... but $110M is also the budget of this film so if it does just that then it's not good at all.
Granted 10CL wasn't shown in China where this film will be shown, and we can also expect this film to do well in Japan because of the anime, but there are early signs that it could fail to make (any serious) profit.
edit: RT at 45% and dropping.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Mar 2017 19:57 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 01:20 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | We might be getting an R-rated director's cut or something on home video.
The IMAX preview apparently showed blood but it's gone in the theatrical.
I read that Togusa's role has been cut down significantly.
The girl girl kiss from the trailers is gone, along with other small moments here and there.
And Lorne Balfe seems to have come on board last minute and he rescored some of Clint Mansell's stuff, including the Shelling sequence. |
They CGI'd out the blood from the blood packs they used during filming 
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=13414894&postcount=1199
Filming:
Bottom: footage from earlier trailer and also used in the IMAX preview, Top: later trailer and final film
Also, these shots are not in the film, they used alternate angles that don't show the exploding impact from the squibs and blood packs.
(Top: Exploded squib during filming, Bottom: Squib/CGI combo meant for the final film, before it was cut)
Since even the girl girl kiss is missing, Paramount must have tried to go ultra-PG-13. Let's hope for a director's cut, since it's clear the director filmed all the violence on set, it was taken out later!
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 01:42 Post subject: |
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or if we're lucky it'll be so meh that the japs themselves will take a shot at remaking it... hopefully by hiring weta for the cgi though, because i saw shin godzilla... japs cant cgi for shit when it comes to realistic effects.
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thudo
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 01:57 Post subject: |
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Sounds like those who see this in the theaters gets the iTard pus*y version.  Gawd... its 2017 and now we can't have basic blood and real minor gore? It used to be no nudity was the norm but violence == ok: now its none of both here unless you watch at home?  Seems like actual movie goers are getting less but wait for the screener/dvd/bluray and you get dat good stuff ? 
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 02:00 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | | or if we're lucky it'll be so meh that the japs themselves will take a shot at remaking it... hopefully by hiring weta for the cgi though, because i saw shin godzilla... japs cant cgi for shit when it comes to realistic effects. |
All I want is an animated GitS 3 by Oshii, I've been waiting for years and was hoping he would announce he was inspired by visiting the set of the live action film, but the dude walks his dog and plays Fallout 4 instead
https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2017/03/16/mamoru-oshii-on-directing-the-original-ghost-in-the-shell-anime-movies-and-enjoying-fallout-4/
| Quote: | | “In general, film directors only work at the whims of the world at large. Until a job offer comes in, I don’t think about films, just walking my dog and playing video games while I wait. Right now I’m really hooked on a game called Fallout 4.” |
edit: 41% RT and dropping, almost reached Speed Racer's (39%).
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 02:24 Post subject: |
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i really hope it drops below speed racer. speed racers rating has always been one of the worst cinematic crimes ever. GO SPEED GO!!1111
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