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Landlordmonkey
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Mar 2017 14:44    Post subject:
Passengers was also great quality from the UltraHDClub colleagues Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Mar 2017 14:46    Post subject:
On a semi-related note, is anyone here aware of a "HFR" (60fps) release of Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk?

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Landlordmonkey
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Mar 2017 14:56    Post subject:
Yes watched it and the movie was super bad like a bad documentation with shitty actors. Picture quality was great Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Mar 2017 15:06    Post subject:
Nice! I don't actually care about the contents, so little worries there. I just want to see a movie with a high frame rate as I hate 24p Razz

Do you recall the name of the release?
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Landlordmonkey
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Mar 2017 15:11    Post subject:
Well all in all it was from UltraHDClub of course
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Mar 2017 16:02    Post subject:
so we have advertisers here now?

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Landlordmonkey
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Mar 2017 16:07    Post subject:
The only group for HDR content is UltraHDClub thats a fact nothing else. Best quality out there. The rest 100% the rest is no 4k HDR quality only shit!
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Mar 2017 23:11    Post subject:
SO how big is their collection? I go on pirate bay for example and there's only a handful, is it the same on ultrahdrclub?
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Mar 2017 23:29    Post subject:
gordonash wrote:
SO how big is their collection? I go on pirate bay for example and there's only a handful, is it the same on ultrahdrclub?


uhdclub is a private tracker you can't compare it to tpb
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Mar 2017 23:42    Post subject:
Nui wrote:
On a semi-related note, is anyone here aware of a "HFR" (60fps) release of Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk?


There's also this release
Billy Lynn 2016 German AC3MD DL 2160p Ultra HD BluRay HFR HDR x265-NIMA4K

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It's on Usenet too (pm)
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 00:18    Post subject:
Thanks. I just found this release, because at this point it actually seems easy enough to find. Shame on me.
Billy.Lynns.Long.Halftime.Walk.2016.2160p.HFR.UHD.BluRay.HDR.DTS-HD.MA5.1.HEVC10-ULTRAHDCLUB-DDR

My problem is. My poor 2600k is too slow and my AMD 390 can't do hw decoding either Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 00:27    Post subject:

Yeah you need quite a beast of a system for these 4k HDR releases I presume. HFR alone will massively increase the performance hit, especially if you use in combination with madVR.
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 00:32    Post subject:
unless you have an HDR display there's no point watching these on your pc.
It ends up looking washed out.

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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 00:35    Post subject:
@ Waldo
Not true, thanks to madVR Smile

@ Shocktrooper
Even with madVR my gpu is bored with this release Cool because not enough frames make it out of the decoder to cause a problem Laughing

Now I wonder if a Ryzen cpu is enough, slightly faster per core, but more than twice as fast with double the threads. Otherwise a new GPU would be necessary.

But I don't have a TV supporting HDR or 4K so it is not important for now. I may try to reencode this release to 1080p. Maybe that is enough. Since HFR/60fps is what I wanted to see here Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 00:42    Post subject:
so you're downloading massive files for pseudo hdr on a non-hdr display? Laughing
Just cause the video plays back you aren't getting the intended quality.

That's just... that's like buying a ps4pro for true 4K gameplay Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 01:02    Post subject:
Oh dear. Sorry for correcting your wrong statement.

Since you didn't even know that HDR can be displayed sensibly on a regular SDR monitor you can't possible know how well this works. In fact, with madVR you can specify your displays maximum brightness, meaning an SDR device that happens to do very bright, probably looks like an HDR TV without supporting it per se. And considering how LG OLEDs used to simply clip signals when brightness went out of their range, using madVR to obtain a smooth transition instead could even look better.
And secondly, don't 4K HDR come with other benefits that potentially show even on SDR devices, like reduced banding and perhaps better shadow detail?

But I didn't even grab this release for any of these reasons.
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 01:56    Post subject:
Laughing ok
whatever you believe.

there's a different colour grade for HDR rather than just brightness settings.

We've done several HDR videos and then played back on a sdr display the colours are different. More muted/Saturated. Even with brightness settings. You'd need a display capable of showing off the colours and the brightness.

Point is you aren't seeing true HDR.

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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 02:49    Post subject:
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We've done several HDR videos and then played back on a sdr display the colours are different.

But you didn't use something like madVR did you? Because it doesn't sound like it. Because as I've already, I'm not talking about just displaying the video, nor just displaying with a bright TV. Because that is obviously not going to work, when I look at these results.

When madVR is set to pass-through I get this. Desaturated colors, low contrast
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This is what madVR produces when specified to 120 peak nits and to compress highlights. Rich colors, the highlight through the back window of the car is heavily reduced. The latter would not happen if I set the peak nits high enough and had a display capable of it, hence I'd have rich colors and bright highlights. What would I be missing then?
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 03:14    Post subject:
the colour seems off.
You have a shot of a regular release to compare?

like his face is purple. just like in the muted one. though it's more noticeable in the 'fixed' one cause of 'richer colours'

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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 03:28    Post subject:
Nope, didn't care much for the regular release, especially after multiple sources told me the movie itself wasn't so good Laughing

But if it is in both versions, I'd be surprised if it wasn't just like it in the source.
edit: They are in a vehicle and a few frames later shows another guy is seemingly hit by purple-ish light and by turning his head he moves in and out of that light. To be honest, I'm not sure where it comes from, but it seems to be part of the scene.

You can also create a LUT that does the HDR to SDR transformation, allowing you to adopt it perfectly (and statically) to your specific display (with your desired compression if needed). Assuming there is software that generates a LUT. Of course this requires a calibration device, but if you want the best picture you need one anyway. If you had an SDR device with colour gamut large enough, I'd assume you'd have problems spotting the difference to an HDR one Razz
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 03:43    Post subject:
HDR should essentially look like the original release just sharper colours. Blacker blacks. Whiter whites. Higher range of grading without affecting everything.

This is one of those movies meant for its colour. At least from what I've been told.


didn't want to download a large rls...

Anyway... doesn't look like there's MUCH difference in your screenshot and mine apart from the timecode. To me, on my display it looks like you downloaded a 56gb file where a 30gb HFR UHD would be more than good enough.

With an actual HDR display you would see the major differences. Like in my shot his hat blends with the interior. I don't have my work display at home, but I'll probably download this on monday and check... but his hat and the interior would be easily separated in HDR if the grading was done properly and knowing that it's Ang Lee... it should be.

I'm still laughing at his face being purple. Like... Ang Lee... Man... I get it the light is meant to look like it's bouncing off of the interior but jeeez.


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also this is like taking a screenshot of a cracked screen. your display probably looks proper w/ the app running adjusting all the doohickeys. So you're probably seeing something entirely different than me or anyone else here.

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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 07:18    Post subject:
Keit wrote:
gordonash wrote:
SO how big is their collection? I go on pirate bay for example and there's only a handful, is it the same on ultrahdrclub?


uhdclub is a private tracker you can't compare it to tpb


I would like to know roughly how many releases they have still tho.
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 08:25    Post subject:
I would like to know how many uhd releases have had an hdr ticker enabled in media encoder lol.

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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 10:41    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
HDR should essentially look like the original release just sharper colours. Blacker blacks. Whiter whites. Higher range of grading without affecting everything.

What are sharper colours? Blacker blacks are not possible though, because we've already had 0 luminance black since almost forever. The latter has a positive effect even on SDR screens.
WaldoJ wrote:
Anyway... doesn't look like there's MUCH difference in your screenshot and mine apart from the timecode. To me, on my display it looks like you downloaded a 56gb file where a 30gb HFR UHD would be more than good enough.

My screenshot is reduced to 1080p and 8 bit, the material was processed to cap peak nits to 120 nits. In motion the dithering should work better as well. That alone makes it impossible to judge.
But enough of this for now. Not the ideal thread for this either.
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 12:20    Post subject:
Its true with HDR and 10bit you need a HDR 10bit display to fully enjoy it. I have MadVR myself and its great but it still doesnt look that good.
I personally am watching it on an LG Oled directly via USB and its fantastic.
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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Apr 2017 13:52    Post subject:
I think gpu vendors will release WDDM 2.2 capable drivers for the Creators Update and 'normal' playback of HDR material will be resolved on the PC (on HDR tv's).
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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Apr 2017 14:45    Post subject:
The first two episodes of Planet Earth II are out in HDR and it's gorgeous. Definitely reference quality.

Also the latest nVidia driver enabled WDDM 2.2 in Creators Update and now there is a 'HDR and advanced color' switch in windows display settings. When enabled my TV (Samsung KS7000) goes into HDR mode but the desktop colors are washed out. Then I proceeded with mpc hc+madvr where I checked 'passthrough HDR content to display' and voila movies and demo clips play perfectly. Identical to what I see if I play them with the tv's built-in player via usb. Also works with kodi dsplayer+madvr. Over at the madvr forum they say 'HDR meta data passthrough' is not working in madvr yet and perhaps the tv uses some default meta data. I don't know what's behind the scenes but like I said the picture is the same as the tv player's output. And this is with a gtx980ti.
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Apr 2017 01:48    Post subject:
Hey folks, anyone with invites for UltraHD Club?

How to donate to get an invite?

Thank you
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