my opinion on why hockey isnt popular in the states
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evilpotato




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Jan 2006 05:04    Post subject: my opinion on why hockey isnt popular in the states
Football is huge in the states. Who plays football? Mostly americans(if not only americans)
Basketball is also big. Who plays basketball? Mostly americans.
Baseball is also big. Who plays baseball? Mostly americans with lots of latino.
Hockey? well, we know how popular hockey is in the states. But who plays hockey? Mostly Canadians and Europeans. Think about it.

But if you really sit down, and watch all four of those games, we all know hockey is the best. Football? Ah please Rolling Eyes a little more exciting then baseball but not by much... Basketball? They go on one side, score then the other goes on the other side then scores, and so on... I just think there's something wrong somewhere when scores are close to 100 in a sport... but hockey... everything can happen in hockey, everything can change in a blink of an eye... wow.
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Jan 2006 05:28    Post subject:
You're right that Hockey is the best Wink


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copecowboy




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 17:09    Post subject:
They have the same opinion on hockey as you do football, Im pretty much the only guy from jersey who likes hockey, I mean in canada soccers about as popular as a turd in a fishbowl, but the rest of the world loves it, hockeys popular in certin places like michigan, denver, mass..ect.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 17:17    Post subject:
The fact that football (and by football i mean soccer) is popular everywhere, but enjoys low interest in the US, said enought on how logical they choose their sports.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 17:22    Post subject:
basketball ^^
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 22:15    Post subject:
Grees wrote:
The fact that football (and by football i mean soccer) is popular everywhere, but enjoys low interest in the US, said enought on how logical they choose their sports.



Well one of the reasons why soccer is so popular is because it doesnt cost a lot of money to play, all the third world countries could play it and its an old game, thats why it didnt catch on to well in north america.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 22:37    Post subject: Re: my opinion on why hockey isnt popular in the states
evilpotato wrote:
Football is huge in the states. Who plays football? Mostly americans(if not only americans)
Basketball is also big. Who plays basketball? Mostly americans.
Baseball is also big. Who plays baseball? Mostly americans with lots of latino.
Hockey? well, we know how popular hockey is in the states. But who plays hockey? Mostly Canadians and Europeans. Think about it.

But if you really sit down, and watch all four of those games, we all know hockey is the best. Football? Ah please Rolling Eyes a little more exciting then baseball but not by much... Basketball? They go on one side, score then the other goes on the other side then scores, and so on... I just think there's something wrong somewhere when scores are close to 100 in a sport... but hockey... everything can happen in hockey, everything can change in a blink of an eye... wow.




baseball basketball and football are really popular in canada, just nowheres along the lines of hockey, I lived there long enough, baseball is like asummer pass time for hockey players growing up
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 23:51    Post subject:
copecowboy wrote:
Grees wrote:
The fact that football (and by football i mean soccer) is popular everywhere, but enjoys low interest in the US, said enought on how logical they choose their sports.



Well one of the reasons why soccer is so popular is because it doesnt cost a lot of money to play, all the third world countries could play it and its an old game, thats why it didnt catch on to well in north america.

Sport is only expensive as you make it, US is a rich country thats why the sports there turned into multi billion dollar industry, not because the sport it self is expensive in the first place.
The fact that its one of the oldest game on earth and didnt catch on in America, is just making the US even more strange.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 00:07    Post subject:
I love hockey but it is NEVER on tv. We cant even see Chicago Blackhawks home games (they suck anyway) on tv because the fucking owner, wirtz, thinks that ticket sales will increase if they dont televise home games.


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copecowboy




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 02:23    Post subject:
Esel_Gesi wrote:
I love hockey but it is NEVER on tv. We cant even see Chicago Blackhawks home games (they suck anyway) on tv because the fucking owner, wirtz, thinks that ticket sales will increase if they dont televise home games.



its because comcast baught the rights from espn, so they cant show games everyday anymore. TV revenue is a huge part of a sports franchaise.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 02:24    Post subject:
Grees wrote:
copecowboy wrote:
Grees wrote:
The fact that football (and by football i mean soccer) is popular everywhere, but enjoys low interest in the US, said enought on how logical they choose their sports.



Well one of the reasons why soccer is so popular is because it doesnt cost a lot of money to play, all the third world countries could play it and its an old game, thats why it didnt catch on to well in north america.

Sport is only expensive as you make it, US is a rich country thats why the sports there turned into multi billion dollar industry, not because the sport it self is expensive in the first place.
The fact that its one of the oldest game on earth and didnt catch on in America, is just making the US even more strange.



you guys keep saying america, you should be saying north america. Most people just find it to slow, with no action, me on the other hand I like pretty much every sport.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 02:41    Post subject:
copecowboy wrote:
Well one of the reasons why soccer is so popular is because it doesnt cost a lot of money to play, all the third world countries could play it and its an old game, thats why it didnt catch on to well in north america.


I dont think that the age of the sport is relevant, nor is the cost of playing. Ice hockey is expensive in relation to the others yes but normal hockey or hurling (which is much older than the other sports) can be done quite cheeply (if of a really poor standard).

Any sport can change in the blink of an eye, that's what makes it so appealing. I don't like baseball or american football but they can still change rapidly and have a (brief) moment of excitement.

Also, even though im a short arse I didnt mind playing basketball in PE. It's not a bad game really but is a sport for giants only now.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 03:43    Post subject:
Sublime wrote:
copecowboy wrote:
Well one of the reasons why soccer is so popular is because it doesnt cost a lot of money to play, all the third world countries could play it and its an old game, thats why it didnt catch on to well in north america.


I dont think that the age of the sport is relevant, nor is the cost of playing. Ice hockey is expensive in relation to the others yes but normal hockey or hurling (which is much older than the other sports) can be done quite cheeply (if of a really poor standard).

Any sport can change in the blink of an eye, that's what makes it so appealing. I don't like baseball or american football but they can still change rapidly and have a (brief) moment of excitement.

Also, even though im a short arse I didnt mind playing basketball in PE. It's not a bad game really but is a sport for giants only now.



yes but out of the 90 minutes soccer might have 1 minute of excitment, you ever see the simpsons episode where they sit there and pass the ball back and forth for about 3 minutes, thats how most north americans view soccer.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 03:53    Post subject:
Sublime wrote:
I dont think that the age of the sport is relevant, nor is the cost of playing. Ice hockey is expensive in relation to the others yes but normal hockey or hurling (which is much older than the other sports) can be done quite cheeply (if of a really poor standard)..


Ice hockey is normal hockey.

Field hockey is for girls. Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 03:57    Post subject:
Well i'm pretty sure that ice hockey came from hurling, lacrosse and field hockey.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 17:04    Post subject:
Sublime wrote:
Well i'm pretty sure that ice hockey came from hurling, lacrosse and field hockey.


Yup, it does Smile

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When Great Britain conquered New France from France in 1763 (much of which would later become part of Canada), soldiers used their knowledge of field hockey and the physically aggressive aspects of what the Mi'kmaq Aboriginal First Nation in Nova Scotia called dehuntshigwa'es (lacrosse). As Canadian winters are long and harsh, new winter sports were always welcomed. Using cheese cutters strapped to their boots, both English- and French-speaking Canadians played the game on frozen rivers, lakes, and ponds


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 18:48    Post subject:
in defense of basketball:

i think a sport is stupid where one team can be the better one and still looose like in hockey or soccer. basketball is great because it can be played fastpaced and slow, strategic and athletic. also i suck at hockey and rule at baskebtall. anyone wanna 1 on 1 me? and i don't mean sex you teenage nerds Razz


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Sublime




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 19:39    Post subject:
well whats the point in playing a game when the best team on paper always wins? I like footy for the unpredicability and the shock results. Also everyone loves an underdog.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 20:20    Post subject:
i am not taling about the best team on paper but on the court / field.
also i am not nazi about my opinion and i don't hate hockey...i just don't like watching it.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 20:28    Post subject:
toeffy wrote:
i think a sport is stupid where one team can be the better one and still looose like in hockey or soccer. basketball is great because it can be played fastpaced and slow, strategic and athletic.


you're talking about the fact that good teams lose? Basketball is exactly like that

Check the standings:
http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html

the top 5 teams in the leagues only win about a 60-65% of their games...

Baseball is just under 60%, and hockey is in the high 60s, nfl football in the high 60s as well.
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/standings/index.jsp
http://www.nhl.com/standings/20052006/league_standings.html

Soccer/Football is the most lopsided, where the good teams never lose. just look at the top teams in english premiership. they barely ever lose.

to me, that = no excitement.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 01:45    Post subject:
the most lopsided is probably college football in the US 99% of the time you know which univeristy is gonna win the national championship before it starts, but its A LOT more exciting to watch than the NFL, bigger stadiums, some over 100,000, better atmosphere, more fast paced, and usually most games have great finishes, but I think the same goes for ncaa basketball, the final four is an amazing tornament.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 11:02    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
Soccer/Football is the most lopsided, where the good teams never lose. just look at the top teams in english premiership. they barely ever lose.

to me, that = no excitement.


Well there's still exceitement and especially on the last day of the season when the relegation places are decided. Also its the top 6 teams in the EPL that should be unbeatable but every now and then a surprise will pop up.


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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jan 2006 01:46    Post subject:
it seems a bit funny to do this thread over ice hockey...

Considering that in all fairness.... its just like most american sports.. most the world has no clue... dont play it.. or couldnt care less...

Btw in terms of numbers.. the most popular sports in the world are

- Soccer
- Basketball
- Tennis
- Rugby
- Cricket


Its a weird way how the world works.. because while britains largest sport (soccer/football) ... it really didnt carry over to its colonies (New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, India, Pakistan.. The West Indies etc...) however the other sports did...
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jan 2006 16:26    Post subject:
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Btw in terms of numbers.. the most popular sports in the world are

- Soccer
- Basketball
- Tennis
- Rugby
- Cricket
.


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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jan 2006 16:45    Post subject:
i'm not sure about basketball or what actually determines a 'favourite sport' If it means the ones people play the most, or spectate it can be really different.


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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jan 2006 17:16    Post subject:
Sublime wrote:
i'm not sure about basketball or what actually determines a 'favourite sport' If it means the ones people play the most, or spectate it can be really different.


Indeed ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_league_attendances


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jan 2006 01:15    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
Btw in terms of numbers.. the most popular sports in the world are

- Soccer
- Basketball
- Tennis
- Rugby
- Cricket
.


Source? Razz


facts/google/common sense....

Im sure you realise that sports like ice hockey HARDLY exsist out of a few countries.. and population wise those countries are not very big....

U would find field hockey has a larger playing number worldwide than ice hockey...
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jan 2006 17:13    Post subject:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
nouseforaname wrote:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
Btw in terms of numbers.. the most popular sports in the world are

- Soccer
- Basketball
- Tennis
- Rugby
- Cricket
.


Source? Razz


facts/google/common sense....

Im sure you realise that sports like ice hockey HARDLY exsist out of a few countries.. and population wise those countries are not very big....

U would find field hockey has a larger playing number worldwide than ice hockey...


I wasn't trying to argue that hockey was that popular worldwide, just wanted a link... and it still doesn't change the fact that field hockey is for girls Razz


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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006 17:21    Post subject:
A lot of countries couldnt afford to play hockey anyways, its not somthing like soccer where 3rd world countries play it, hence why its so popular.I think it should stay within north america anyways, its huge in places like russia, finland ect, but watching europe hockey makes me feel like im looking at a bilboard with all the sponsers on the jerseys and ice!
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pfft, e-sports is nr. 1 Very Happy
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