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Another Game of Thrones with endless gimmicky deaths - or perhaps something more interesting? At least it will have more fantastical elements.
Will look out for this one!
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 13:35 Post subject: |
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If Mads Mikkelsen is not going to play Geralt then fuck it.. 
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 13:39 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 14:36 Post subject: |
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Tbh this
| Quote: | | will serve as a creative consultant on the series |
worries me.
The guy is a toxic drunkard with a superiority complex. 
I wouldn't let him anywhere near The Witcher TV show.
Let him have his slice of the pie (he is still butthurt he didn't believe in CD Projekt and refused their original deal), but keep him away from the TV Series.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 14:51 Post subject: |
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| madness wrote: | Well, well, well. Hope it doesn't suck  |
It's gonna suck 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 14:52 Post subject: |
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On topic, currently available for 25 EUR on HB (GoG version).
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 14:53 Post subject: |
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@tonizito
It can't be worse than the Polish version..can it?
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 14:54 Post subject: |
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garus
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 15:06 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 15:30 Post subject: |
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I liked the books ok enough but i dont think they're great for a TV series. the games had a better story
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 16:52 Post subject: |
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This will probably turn out like a big pile of shit.
But i will be happy if it won't.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 17:06 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 17:41 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 17:56 Post subject: |
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Lol it has attached that burned out drunk to it (read author) so don't count on anything decent.
sar·casm | \ ˈsär-ˌka-zəm \
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2a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual
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vurt
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 19:00 Post subject: |
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| Casus wrote: | | Another Game of Thrones with endless gimmicky deaths |
How are they gimmicky? I don't know of any deaths in GoT that didn't make perfect sense.
I'd say most shows doesn't have enough deaths for main characters, they usually get away with doing almost anything with no consequence.
I actually watched most of the polish TV show some years ago. I found it entertaining enough, obviously it was very low budget and often quite ridiculous, but it had its charm if you accept it for what it is.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 19:00 Post subject: |
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And to think that we were talking about a Witcher TV show just a few weeks ago, I'm glad that it's happening but I'm terrified at the same time.  It's so hard to nail the Geraltian essence without dumbing it down, Netflix do the miracle pls!
On a related note, let's continue the discussion here in the official thread 
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 19:10 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | | Casus wrote: | | Another Game of Thrones with endless gimmicky deaths |
How are they gimmicky? I don't know of any deaths in GoT that didn't make perfect sense.
I'd say most shows doesn't have enough deaths for main characters, they usually get away with doing almost anything with no consequence.
I actually watched most of the polish TV show some years ago. I found it entertaining enough, obviously it was very low budget and often quite ridiculous, but it had its charm if you accept it for what it is. |
They're gimmicky because, after the first book, the entire point became killing off beloved characters because it was soooo realistic.
The show goes even further.
Please don't talk about appropriate deaths while Tyrion (aka the writer as he sees himself) and Samwell are still alive (aka the writer as he also sees himself).
Both of those characters have survived countless stupid actions that would have killed off any other characters a dozen times over.
In short, it's a joke of a story once you get beyond the first book or season.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 19:13 Post subject: |
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But who's gonna play the gurls, or with them? 
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vurt
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 19:26 Post subject: |
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| Casus wrote: |
They're gimmicky because, after the first book, the entire point became killing off beloved characters because it was soooo realistic.
The show goes even further.
Please don't talk about appropriate deaths while Tyrion (aka the writer as he sees himself) and Samwell are still alive (aka the writer as he also sees himself).
Both of those characters have survived countless stupid actions that would have killed off any other characters a dozen times over.
In short, it's a joke of a story once you get beyond the first book or season. |
It's not at all unrealistic that some people survive when they really shouldn't.. There's people who take drugs and commit crimes and live very dangerous lives, some of these still manage to outlive people who live safer and healthier lives. So it makes perfect sense that such people exist in GoT too.
Story is a joke in comparison to exactly which other TV fantasy shows? It's excellent popcorn entertainment, and i'm far more entertained with GoT than any other fantasy TV show (i think i've watched most, or at least tried too).
I don't think the deaths has to do with trying to winning any awards for most realistic TV show or whatever, it's just there because its entertainment and deaths are a part of that, like it or not. Its not more gimmicky than babies are born, people falling in love or people have a dispute, it's just part of the world and its stuff we connect to in one way or the other. It's not more complicated than that.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th May 2017 22:39 Post subject: |
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Do I need to have played the first two games to understand what is going on with the third one ? Or can I just skip them?
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| nik_nak wrote: | | Do I need to have played the first two games to understand what is going on with the third one ? Or can I just skip them? |
You can skip them. Of course it's better to even read the books to get a better insight of the world and its characters, but you can skip it entirely. All characters are added to your journal where you can read about them.
It's not like they are excepting all xbox and ps4 players (for example) to have played the previous games, and much less so reading the books..
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| Posted: Thu, 18th May 2017 00:44 Post subject: |
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| nik_nak wrote: | | Do I need to have played the first two games to understand what is going on with the third one ? Or can I just skip them? |
You can skip em, but take your time with this game. Read stuff, spend a minute or two just enjoying the world you are delving into. |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Thu, 18th May 2017 02:56 Post subject: |
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One does not simply skip The Witcher. At the very least, we can talk about reasonably delaying the playthrough 
All kidding aside*, what the guys said. There will be clearly references and characters' backgrounds that inevitably will be missed despite the in-game explanations, but the story will still feel connected and coherent.
*Really though, the first two games definitely deserve to be visited as well after you're done with 3, especially the first one which I personally consider essential for a PC gamer.
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| Posted: Thu, 18th May 2017 04:04 Post subject: |
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The first Witcher game is in my top 10 rpg games of all time. If you don't play it, then you just played yourself, fool!
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| Posted: Thu, 18th May 2017 08:14 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | | Casus wrote: |
They're gimmicky because, after the first book, the entire point became killing off beloved characters because it was soooo realistic.
The show goes even further.
Please don't talk about appropriate deaths while Tyrion (aka the writer as he sees himself) and Samwell are still alive (aka the writer as he also sees himself).
Both of those characters have survived countless stupid actions that would have killed off any other characters a dozen times over.
In short, it's a joke of a story once you get beyond the first book or season. |
It's not at all unrealistic that some people survive when they really shouldn't.. There's people who take drugs and commit crimes and live very dangerous lives, some of these still manage to outlive people who live safer and healthier lives. So it makes perfect sense that such people exist in GoT too.
Story is a joke in comparison to exactly which other TV fantasy shows? It's excellent popcorn entertainment, and i'm far more entertained with GoT than any other fantasy TV show (i think i've watched most, or at least tried too).
I don't think the deaths has to do with trying to winning any awards for most realistic TV show or whatever, it's just there because its entertainment and deaths are a part of that, like it or not. Its not more gimmicky than babies are born, people falling in love or people have a dispute, it's just part of the world and its stuff we connect to in one way or the other. It's not more complicated than that. |
Did I claim there were other great fantasy TV shows? The story is a joke to me because nothing much ever happens and the few interesting parts happen once in a blue moon.
How long did we have to wait for the White Walkers to actually do anything?
I'm not saying the deaths are unrealistic - I'm saying they're a gimmick. Meaning, that's all the show has - and it does nothing for the story or plot, and it serves no purpose beyond basking in its "realism" - and completely ignoring what makes a compelling tale, which pretty much REQUIRES characters to survive. It's a conceit that story tellers must understand - but Martin is apparently a genius for killing off all his great characters. I mean, except his own personal favorites.
That's why Tyrion keeps surviving - and when you consider his actions, the little advantage of "realism" the show had just goes by the wayside.
He's a popculture jokester - and he's about as far away from a realistic medieval character as I can possibly imagine. But he's entertaining and he's the glue that holds the story together for many - which is why he somehow just can't die.
That's the biggest joke of all.
Sadly, I don't find one comic relief out-of-place character enough to carry the show. That's not to talk about Samwell - being a fat high-school teenager type of character with a geek profile. In a supposedly realistic medieval tale. Talk about breaking the illusion of realism.
We do agree that it's popcorn entertainment. Rather, it has BECOME popcorn entertainment.
Personally, I get bored with that kind of thing very quickly.
But it could have been so much more, if the quality of the first book had been preserved.
Guy can't even get close to finishing the story, because there never really was one. He had excellent material and ideas - but they were all burned away in the first few books.
Since then, it's just been the same gimmick of nasty people, nasty violence and lots of dead main characters.
Wow!
Sorry, no. Give me a proper Tolkien HBO show - now that would be something.
Heck, even the pulpy Dragonlance Chronicles would be better than another GoT.
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| Posted: Thu, 18th May 2017 11:06 Post subject: |
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I suppose there are different "the story so far.." \ recap videos on The Witcher 1-2, so you can just watch them.
| celltech wrote: | | Apparently first season will have budget of 6mln dollars, |
6 mil for the whole season? wtf..This is nowhere near of what is required to do it properly..
It should be 6 mil per episode.. or something
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| Posted: Thu, 18th May 2017 13:52 Post subject: |
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That really isn't very much. The walking dead has like 3 mil per episode and they spent all day walking in the woods :/
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| Posted: Thu, 18th May 2017 14:30 Post subject: |
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Casus, man. Sometimes you make absolutely ZERO sense.
You say the death in GoT does nothing to the story? It's actually the very oppisite - death is the main story point of the show. Almost every character who dies stirs up the plot somehow: the execusion of the scout for desertion in the first episode eventually leads to Ned Stark's own execusion (because he follows his own honor code), Ned's deaths messes up everything, Daenery's brother's deaths makes her free etc etc.
And then you say the death of Tyrion will screw up the whole story? So actually characters' deaths DO something for the story or plot?
I am not even some fan of GoT and rarely watch any series, I also find it little too predictable and trying hard with political bullshits, but I admit the deaths are what make it interesting.
And now on-topic: I hope the casting jury crew for The Witcher series isn't the same as for The Expanse. The Expanse is okay but the actors are nearly disastrious. Even the ones in The Bold and the Beautiful are playing much much better.
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