Well I'm just saying the weakest parts of these movies were the alien parts for me. I have no problem with the David character and his plotline, my problem lies in let's put a xenomorph here to appease derp audience factor.
I can live with all the other 'they arnt wearing helmets?!' moments in these films too. Such minor irrelevant details to the story telling. I often forget derps have a PhD is astrobiology of the 26th century...
Well, wait.. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE ALIEN(s) present here and there.. this is 2017 after all: audiences of the modern era cannot handle deep-thought provoking imagery or subtle plot devices WITHOUT adding "the shock" or "hooks" to get them interested. Maybe decades ago this would work where you didn't have to "spoon feed the audience" but, nowadays, I'm afraid you have to offer most of it all in just to wake up the ADHD-laden bums in the seats.
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I just came to realize something... This is actually the worst alien film.
I thought about it and realized that for all it's faults, alien 4 actually had pretty well defined and somewhat memorable characters, who you could actually give a tiny shit about (or express satisfaction) when they died, but this movie actually had nothing of the kind. I felt nothing for each death, therefore making this films one redeeming feature (the alien/gore/action sequences), largely irrelevant...
God.. How fucking depressing... I hated alien 4...
Edit: you know what, I'm gong to allow avp films to count, just so I can say avp2 is the worst alien film... I just don't think I can accept Ridley making a such a shit entry into a franchise he created and started so fucking supremely.
I just came to realize something... This is actually the worst alien film.
Yeah its a shame its going to be compared to alien franchise films. They've done a disservice to everyone with this film, want an alien film? nope fuck you aliens take a backseat, enjoyed Prometheus? nope fuck you have some xenomorphs.
for me its Alien a masterpiece & Aliens also very good > the rest of the franchise pretty much garbage with the AVderP movies being flat out offensive.
Director Ridley Scott’s planned Alien: Covenant sequels are reportedly shrouded in uncertainty right now, with 20th Century Fox currently busy “reassessing” the franchise’s future. This news comes several months after Alien: Covenant was released to disappointing box office receipts, with the film’s box office totals adding up to just a little over half of what 2012’s Prometheus made. While Covenant was originally pitched and built up as being a return to form for the Alien franchise, with the latest installment not only adopting the same name but also basic structure and tone of the original 1979 Alien film, it proved to be a much different experience than some fans might have been expecting.
the only thing i would have wanted (and i hope its part of that "master class", but i doubt it) is a nice long segment on the alien development/theory/design, and also in depth look at the cgi.
Still can't get over how shit that human dummy face looked during "that" scene. So often I watch movies and actually hav no idea how scenes are done (some times I'm genuinely surprised when I see how they're done) or at least I don't think about how it's done until I watch it again or think about the film after it's over...
What I'm getting at was that it was so obviously badly done it looked so fake it took me right out of the moment...and that doesn't usually happen with films of this budget and (supposed) talent.
I just came to realize something... This is actually the worst alien film.
I thought about it and realized that for all it's faults, alien 4 actually had pretty well defined and somewhat memorable characters, who you could actually give a tiny shit about (or express satisfaction) when they died, but this movie actually had nothing of the kind. I felt nothing for each death, therefore making this films one redeeming feature (the alien/gore/action sequences), largely irrelevant...
God.. How fucking depressing... I hated alien 4...
Edit: you know what, I'm gong to allow avp films to count, just so I can say avp2 is the worst alien film... I just don't think I can accept Ridley making a such a shit entry into a franchise he created and started so fucking supremely.
Well first of all he just directed the first movie. Giger and O'Bannon created Alien and were involved throughout the whole production.
Yes but to go from making one of the best films in the franchise that got everything pretty much perfect, to a film where he gets almost every aspect fundamentally wrong, is a rediculous and unacceptable fail, especially since this is a man with so many fantastic films under his belt... Even more rediculous given that so many aspects that failed in this film, are ones he's consistently nailed wonderfully in previous films.
That he only did one previous film has nothing to do with being so rightfully incredulous of his failure with alien 5
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
Again, don't read it until you have seen the film, but it explains a few stuff about David & Shaw + hints at the direction of the next film (Alien Queen?).
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
what i would have loved, is if alien condiment ended with
Spoiler:
walter alive and back on the planet - the final shots being him dragging back the corpse of the alien the 'preacher' killed after it killed the 'headless lady', and starting to examine it in davids room of horrors - the implication being that during their standoff, david was able to convince walter of his point of view, thus letting david go. I always thought david winning that fight was fucking retarded as hell, i like the idea of walter changing his view (them androids... twitchy and mental as hell, rite???) and joining david in his plan to create a perfect organism could be kinda neat.
id like to imagine that its not david that creates the aliens we know, but rather walter. Then the engineers show up wondering why one of their colonies went silent - they discover walter and his 'perfected' alien, kill walter and using information on the ship david piloted to that world, trace it back to the prometheus planet, then find the escape lifeboat (the one with the squid monster), which lets them track the humans back to where earth is.
They load up a ship with alien eggs with the plan of doing to us what we did to them, but alien escapes, ship crashes, alien canon remains preserved.
that way ridley could still continue on - do whatever he wants with his 'new' spikey aliens, make up a whole entire backstory and new continuation, very cleverly without fucking up the original canon.
but pretty sure none of that is going to happen. I like my idea, but ridley is determined to let his senility destroy the franchise once at for all
Again, don't read it until you have seen the film, but it explains a few stuff about David & Shaw + hints at the direction of the next film (Alien Queen?).
Well that explains almost all the important questions of Prometheus saga:
Spoiler:
- He killed Shaw because she didnt want to be a part of his 2nd Eden
- He used Shaw organs to do his experiments, and a Queen "beta version"
- Looks like Engineers created both "good" life and "bad" life ... ? Aliens and Humans?
- He used Engineers secrets, that they banished and undo the Alien (Wolf), to create the Alien we see on film, i believe Engineers already created some sort of Alien before, we can see the Alien mural and engineers corpses with chest burst on Prometheus film
- Engineers sacrifice themselfs to clean the sins - maybe is some kind of punishement for bad behiavor?
- He´s going to use Daniels as the real Queen in the next film, Shaw was a prototype
Really nice stuff, cant wait to see the next Featurettes.
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