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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 21:05    Post subject:
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 21:37    Post subject:
Tried it and uninstalled, can't take this game serious. How is that GT2RS understeering so much? Sliding one side and if you counter-steer, car snaps and spins.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 21:59    Post subject:
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Silent_Lurker




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 22:20    Post subject:
Forget steering wheel with this game, seriously.

Got to play with my G27 profiler to set something like 720° otherwise it was really weird.
But as we can't assign profile to Forza7.exe - thanks to MS Store encryption - And as FFB just don't feel right I just gave up.

The game is much more playable with a gamepad anyway.


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Sep 2017 23:28    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
Last time I checked Horizon 3 was still playable. I bought it via the store but nowadays I can't enter the fucking store Sad
But if you happen to uninstall it is there any other way to get it installed again?


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Ha! the good old

It's the first time I'm seeing that classic but


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 01:57    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
PumpAction wrote:
Last time I checked Horizon 3 was still playable. I bought it via the store but nowadays I can't enter the fucking store Sad
But if you happen to uninstall it is there any other way to get it installed again?

Managed to fix it. Apparently the Windows Store doesn't work if your computer is not visible in your LOCAL NETWORK Mad


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Sep 2017 15:04    Post subject:
Uninstalled this piece of shit demo.
Game is simply bad, on every front except graphics which is okay, nothing special, but okay.

M$ store is terrible and annoying to use, menu is constantly loading some shit, sound is amateurish and driving is... bad. Cars understeer too much and it creates a false illusion of a simulation game. Cockpits are not detailed enough and not made entirely and it bothers me so much.

All in all, a bad game, very bad.


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Sep 2017 00:48    Post subject:
*entering this thread to ask about the game... leaving instantly*
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Sep 2017 01:05    Post subject:
Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Sep 2017 04:44    Post subject:
Got this biznatch prehurrdurred!


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0wen




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Sep 2017 23:26    Post subject:
They have a contest going on you can play daily, I already won the VIP Pass myself so maybe some others might have some luck too.

https://rewards.xbox.com/forza-7-virtual-key-sweepstakes
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Amadeus




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Sep 2017 02:47    Post subject:
0wen wrote:
They have a contest going on you can play daily, I already won the VIP Pass myself so maybe some others might have some luck too.

https://rewards.xbox.com/forza-7-virtual-key-sweepstakes


What is that and how does it work?
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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Sep 2017 14:02    Post subject:
same as microsoft rewards, you need to do stuff to earn points and you can exchange them against stuff which normally costs money (i.e. groove music subscription for example). it differs from country to country though

anyone here bought the overpriced ultimate blabla early unlock edition and can say something about the performance? demo is 3 months old stuff from the e3, and i expect that they improved many things till now
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Sep 2017 18:08    Post subject:
Well the current one seems to be for US residents only, no?


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Sep 2017 18:32    Post subject:
https://go.twitch.tv/forzamotorsport

live shenanigans just started
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Sep 2017 20:17    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
same as microsoft rewards, you need to do stuff to earn points and you can exchange them against stuff which normally costs money (i.e. groove music subscription for example). it differs from country to country though

anyone here bought the overpriced ultimate blabla early unlock edition and can say something about the performance? demo is 3 months old stuff from the e3, and i expect that they improved many things till now


So there is supposed to be more on that site than this?

https://i.imgur.com/ORzrIzA.png

Because after i press "JOIN XBOX LIVE REWARDS" it prompts me to login, i do, and the button disappears and that's it

no idea how i would participate in anything

I bought the Ultimate Edition for 45 Schmeckles in Gazorpazorpland


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dethy




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Sep 2017 03:41    Post subject:
Where did you get it at that low price?


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Sep 2017 09:06    Post subject:
Probably from Russian store for 1999RUB. You buy 2000RUB code for 1726RUB on nilt.ru. Add to your account after changing region and address to Russian and voila Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Sep 2017 03:02    Post subject:


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Summary for now. May update later if I can track down the PC issue.

For Console, this is a buy absolutely excellent content.
For PC it is a bit of a hit and miss with the micro-stutter/FPS issue like at around the 1:23 mark.

So far no one can figure out why some PC's have it and others don't and why it is not all the time.
I would say go into it with your eyes open if you're getting it on PC


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dethy




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Sep 2017 17:22    Post subject:
Great review. Only time I see micro-stutter is right before the race, I'm assuming it's due to the fact that shit is still loading in the background while you can do customization to the race. But, once the race starts, never seen it drop below 60fps, no stuttering. Game is rendering on ultra with 4k resolution even though my monitor is 1080p @ 60hz hehe. According to MSI after burner, it shows gpu utilization at around 60%. However, I'm not liking the fact that one core is running at 100% all the time while my 15 other logical cores running at 10-20% utilization hehe. With the Xbox and shit having multiple cores and such, why couldn't they optimize this on PC?

In any event, game runs great, graphics are outstanding.

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Ryzen 1700x @ 4ghz, ASRock x370 Taichi motherboard, 32gb pc3200 ram, EVGA 1080Ti SC2, SoundBlaster Z, Samsung Evo m.2 500gb SSD, Samsung 950 Pro 500gb SATA SSD.


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Sep 2017 20:20    Post subject:
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atf300




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Sep 2017 21:46    Post subject:
and the bumper cars drivatars , o god .

at points they are like robots.

at least i found a reasonably ok setting for my t300 , yet at certain points you cant catch the car .

needs more patches!
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dethy




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Sep 2017 22:11    Post subject:
The drivatar issue is easy fix, basically you wait till more data is collected.

I'm annoyed at VIP x2 mods being limited to 25 races. Fucking bullshit.


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Sep 2017 23:15    Post subject:
Also note. AI does not have tire degradation and unlimited fuel. When you turn those options on, it only affects you. Quite bullshitty.


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 09:15    Post subject:
What ???

So can someone explain me why this game is more expensive on my CPU than Project CARS 2 ?

Confused

BTW it seems there even isn't spray on windshield once rain is over and you follow other cars...
Big time immersion killer here.

This game is just like a fake piece of jewelry, it's nice looking and all but if you scratch the surface a bit all you got is rusty piece of junk.


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 14:40    Post subject:
Silent_Lurker wrote:
What ???

So can someone explain me why this game is more expensive on my CPU than Project CARS 2 ?

Confused

BTW it seems there even isn't spray on windshield once rain is over and you follow other cars...
Big time immersion killer here.

This game is just like a fake piece of jewelry, it's nice looking and all but if you scratch the surface a bit all you got is rusty piece of junk.


The guys from Turn10 said they put a lot of stress on one core to make it more responsive, which of course is bullshit

The game generally isn't all that taxing and uses multithreading as you'd expect from a game like this, a few cores here and there, i mean it's a racing game with some physics and a meh AI, nothing too crazy

It's that UWP file decryption system Microsoft employs which heavily taxes the CPU, especially the first core, because the constant stream of data coming in that has to be decrypted

It's also why people experience stutters in this game (and FH3) more than any other games

those racing games are laden with assets and data streams (especially in one that is stark full of 4k textures and is generally 100gb in size) and if on top of that all that data is encrypted then the CPU has to do a lot of work, but not just the CPU

memory usage also goes up by a good bit and memory speeds suddenly become pretty crucial

not to mention how important it is you install this game to a fast drive

those games also generally use a good bit of vram

so it's not surprising people have so many issues getting this (and again FH3) to run well, so many factors coming in that all have to accounted for

if any of your specs don't match what is needed, and even then sometimes, you're gonna have a bad time

though at least some remedy can be found in just turning the settings all the way down, to some degree, though most people aren't willing to do that and have a certain entitlement in being able to set graphic settings to "at least high or ultra", that's not gonna fly here

can't really blame them, it's really on Microsoft for forcing this whole UWP and Windows store malarkey on us

oh noes, imagine people'd mess with their games files! better make them suffer through constant file decryption
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Silent_Lurker




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 18:31    Post subject:
Don't know.

But what he just wrote makes a lot of sense, I also think their whole Microsoft Store system wasn't built for actual video games in the first place but for mobile apps.
They tweaked it for make it "works" for games and here is the result...


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 19:06    Post subject:
Amadeus Amadeus Amadeus Amadeus Amadeus Amadeus Amadeus Amadeus

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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Oct 2017 02:17    Post subject:
Well I must be one of the lucky ones.

I downloaded the ultimate version with 0 problems one shot and even installed on a raid other then the OS drive.

I just loaded into the menus and all, didn't race yet.

I also unticked my cpu core 0 in the affinity options as it seems to suffer the same as the demo, laggy menus and what not but with the affinity trick all is well!!

Can't wait to see the unlocked fps performance! Very Happy


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