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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Nov 2017 13:11    Post subject:
Famou wrote:
PumpAction wrote:
I have 9+ hours in the game and still not finished.. have only completed one assassination mission so far.. I am playing on the second hardest difficulty level and afaik I haven't triggered a single officer alert (= I reloaded until I was able to stealth kill everybody Laughing), thus I spent even more time with the game, or does the game timer increase anyway?

The journey so far is great, even though the story telling is all over the place. Really heavy in tone and now it's just absolute silly kindergarten.


What you mean to say is that you are playing in the most boring way possible. Learned patterns of the AI that walks exactly the same way every time and acts exactly the same every encounter.

You can even prefire places knowing the AI will be there at that exact time.


sadly sometimes after you die and reload a level I've had people get stuck in place, or continue their patrol pattern looking to the side, which has made stealth proceed impossible, and I had to go to the main menu and reload the save again to fix them.. Laughing

AND OH MY GOD, THE COURTHOUSE LEVEL ON THIS DIFFICULTY IS FUCKING HARD!!! Crying or Very sad
they are coming from every direction, and need only about 1-2sec to kill you with pin-point accuracy from the other side of the map..


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Mythril




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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Nov 2017 18:03    Post subject:
Hmm this game is jerky, even on low settings... I've updated to the hotfix drivers and now I'll try the new WHQL but I'm not holding much hope. My system should murder this game :-/


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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Nov 2017 18:25    Post subject:
Let me guess, you are not on Win10?


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Mythril




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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Nov 2017 19:27    Post subject:
Yes I'm running Win10.


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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Nov 2017 19:37    Post subject:
Hm, no idea then as your system should indeed have no problems to run this stable.

What i would try:
- Enable VSync
- Do a clean reinstallation of the 388.10 drivers


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tonizito




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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Nov 2017 19:46    Post subject:
Are you using max performance power usage instead of optimal on the nderpia CP?
Are you seeing weird clock fluctuations on afterburner or something like that?


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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Nov 2017 19:52    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Are you using max performance power usage instead of optimal on the nderpia CP?
Are you seeing weird clock fluctuations on afterburner or something like that?


This perhaps if you are using the newest driver?

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/nvidia-geforce-388-13-whql-driver-download-discussion.417625/page-8#post-5487859

Going through the thread it does seem to have some frame pacing issues.

If using Afterburning then monitoring power seems to also have some quirks for this driver going by a few posts testing that out.
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Mythril




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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Nov 2017 22:22    Post subject:
Just tried the new WHQL and their the same also... I don't run anything like Afterburner. BF1 seems to be suffering from the same also but not as often.


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PumpAction
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2017 09:52    Post subject:
Just on a super off chance, is your power supply ok and powerful enough? I know, it sounds ridiculous..

Or maybe some thermal throttling issue going on? Have you checked the fans inside your computer?

A 980ti shouldn't have any issues... Try enabling vsync as suggested by bob to reduce the fps to 60 and reduce stress on your hardware...

StrEagle wrote:
AND OH MY GOD, THE COURTHOUSE LEVEL ON THIS DIFFICULTY IS FUCKING HARD!!! Crying or Very sad
they are coming from every direction, and need only about 1-2sec to kill you with pin-point accuracy from the other side of the map..

Actually you just have to run like crazy. I had to reload several times to survive the first few seconds, but once you have SOME weapons and a little bit of armor it gets managable. You HAVE to leave the room though asap and go to the top left/right to get full ammo and gear.

Famou wrote:
PumpAction wrote:
I have 9+ hours in the game and still not finished.. have only completed one assassination mission so far.. I am playing on the second hardest difficulty level and afaik I haven't triggered a single officer alert (= I reloaded until I was able to stealth kill everybody Laughing), thus I spent even more time with the game, or does the game timer increase anyway?

The journey so far is great, even though the story telling is all over the place. Really heavy in tone and now it's just absolute silly kindergarten.


What you mean to say is that you are playing in the most boring way possible. Learned patterns of the AI that walks exactly the same way every time and acts exactly the same every encounter.

You can even prefire places knowing the AI will be there at that exact time.

To be honest, I found the quick way to be rather silly. Enemies spawn out of nowhere and if you go silent about it, there is more stuff to discover and different routes. And there are plenty of sections where going silent is not even an option, so I have my fair share of action too Smile Also combat isn't so difficult that it would be a real challenge anyway. The assault rifle in single shot mode is super deadly and a few taps kill almost every enemy fairly quick. If you dual wield it's even easier Smile


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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2017 10:09    Post subject:
I am running the game on win7x64 on max settings no problems


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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2017 17:41    Post subject:
StrEagle wrote:
AND OH MY GOD, THE COURTHOUSE LEVEL ON THIS DIFFICULTY IS FUCKING HARD!!! Crying or Very sad
they are coming from every direction, and need only about 1-2sec to kill you with pin-point accuracy from the other side of the map..

Just git gud dude.

For me it just took about 30 savegame reloads.


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Mythril




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2017 19:45    Post subject:
Yeah PSU is fine mate. As for the fans, they had their quarterly clean out the other week. The more I read into it, the more it seems like nVidia broke something in their new drivers :-/


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StEFaN7




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2017 21:19    Post subject:
just install previous drivers


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jaapie18




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2017 22:27    Post subject:
Do you see any difference in the sharpness setting?
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2017 22:30    Post subject:
It's pretty light between 0.0 (Off) and 1.0 but above that it gets really noticeable, a bit of sharpening helps offset the texture blur though without too much shimmering and noise artifacts. Smile

EDIT:
https://steamdb.info/app/612880/history/

Looks like the beta branch was updated again.
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2017 23:08    Post subject:
85 mb patch took 15 minutes to install Sad
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2017 23:31    Post subject:
Yeah they update a lot of the game archives with these patches, it does seem this resolves the broken skybox from the previous update at least that was noticeable in a few levels.

Future patches will probably have the same issue with updating most of the files for the existing game, it's a bit of a pain having to wait for Steam to finish beating the HDD. Razz
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jaapie18




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 01:25    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
It's pretty light between 0.0 (Off) and 1.0 but above that it gets really noticeable, a bit of sharpening helps offset the texture blur though without too much shimmering and noise artifacts. Smile

EDIT:
https://steamdb.info/app/612880/history/

Looks like the beta branch was updated again.


So do you have the setting on 1.0?
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 01:28    Post subject:
wtf, yesterday the game ran at 90-100 fps on average (gtx 970), today i updated afterburner and riva tuner to 4.4.0 and the game suddenly fucking runs like ass, 30-40 fps suddenly in same area at same settings.
the afterburner settings are the same and even if i turn it off completely, the game still runs like ass.
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 02:28    Post subject:
Turn on windowed mode and fullscreen again


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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 02:52    Post subject:
i did a shitload of things and wiped/reinstalled drivers, afterburner and riva too, reset all settings etc., it runs fine now again and I cant pinpoint what fixed it, but it really could've been switching between windowed and fullscreen now that you mention it Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 05:04    Post subject:
Finished Billy and his crew's new quest against the American c̶u̶r̶r̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶p̶o̶l̶i̶t̶i̶c̶s nazis (it took me ~10 hours), fun Wolfy moments were had as per usual but alas, the relatively high expectations weren't quite met here. Some filthy spy must have been sabotaging Machinegames by suggesting to take the things that worked well and dilute them in a pint of generic chamomile tea sprinkled with exotic flavours that no one really asked for. Okay

Despite the many sins from the herpa generation of modern shooters, TNO for me was a cohesive ride, it could maintain a nice pacing and balance between serious and over-the-top and rarely I was annoyed, then the meaty gunplay and solid writing did the rest. Although this Colossus still offers good setpieces and scenes, it's evident that something went wrong inside the nazi bunker. The movements were tweaked by adding a consolish floatiness that makes the gunplay faster but at the same time weaker, which the hyperaggressive cutscenes, oppressing-E-pressing, and the focus on corridors emphasize. The lack of proper feedback when being hit was another weird decision (same for the absence of subtle sound effects) - as a result playing on Death Incarnate can be completely random, with the AI that dislikes logical dynamic routines and often just stands still and aimbots you, zero reichs given.

And then there's the story, or...well whatever that was, a bizarre uneven bunch of lines and diverse(tm)Cool Face characters put together for a silly plot that never knows whether to be comedic or dramatic, [say Caroline again]. TNO simply used the setting in a more intelligent way in my opinion, it did its thing without influences from modern tendencies and whatever floats in the submarine these days.

As for the performance, everything went smoothly for me on High settings/1080p/TAA, and while the visuals aren't consistently good, there are some instances where the attention to detail is quite amazing, one can tell that the designers spent a lot of time crafting some of the rooms and environments.
I still enjoyed the game and despite some cringe there were still golden moments (also involving an old..youknowwho Very Happy), but the disappointment was there. I'd rate it 6,5/10, inferior to both TNO and TOB in my opinion and overall, it felt like a missed opportunity. Let's hope the third Wolfie (if there will be one) will fix some of the missteps exhibited here, although at this rate it will probably be set on a post-apocalyptic Twitter.



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Famou




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 10:57    Post subject:
Game was obviously rushed because of the american politics. Their obnoxious marketing failed completely. Having lower sales than ELEX and extremely low amount of players for a game like this. It will only drop more and more since the game is short and forgettable.

Finished it last night on the hardest difficulty. Game was a clunky mess with gameplay worse than indie games. Dual wielding still annoying as hell to select weapons. Completely ruins the flow of the combat. Weapons were a huge dissapointment. With nazi technology you would expect some crazy shit. 99% of the time I was using the silenced SMG's. Can easily clear every area with them fast. AI was awful. Story was ofcourse just a laughable joke. Like most entertainment these days. Jew propaganda train going full force. BAD white man BAD. Bugs everywhere. Collectables that don't look special at all. Can't even distinguish most items because you just spam E the whole time.

Would rather play soldier of fortune.
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madness




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 11:03    Post subject:
Someone butthurt about "Make America nazi free again"? Cool Face

According to Steamspy it has more owners and players than ELEX but yeah, probably not much of an achievement and less than they hoped.
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 11:21    Post subject:
Famou wrote:

Jew propaganda train going full force. BAD white man BAD.


lol wut
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 12:03    Post subject:
I do find it funny how a game about fighting and killing racists pits a complete racist as your leader. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 12:04    Post subject:
Elex selling more than this? Where? Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 13:02    Post subject:
I hated the fact they made Nazi's into an American version of nazi's i.e. basically white supremacist.
They had a very narrow view of the Aryan race and everything else was beneath them, had no where near as much to do with skin color as the Americans seem to think lately.
Slavs were right up there with the jews, so its starting to piss me off that this american trend of Nazi = white, since it was basically white nations that crushed them.

Anyway i know i'm talking it too seriously, its just a game, but still it bothers me because its popping up everywhere.
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 13:32    Post subject:
Divvy wrote:
I do find it funny how a game about fighting and killing racists pits a complete racist as your leader. Very Happy


The bigger hilarious irony is that, in this timeline/version of events, the only reason the Nazi's won the war and were able to completely dominate the world is because of the Jews in the first place! I wonder how many people caught onto that while playing?

http://wolfenstein.wikia.com/wiki/Da%27at_Yichud

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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2017 13:53    Post subject:
xxax wrote:
I hated the fact they made Nazi's into an American version of nazi's i.e. basically white supremacist.
They had a very narrow view of the Aryan race and everything else was beneath them, had no where near as much to do with skin color as the Americans seem to think lately.
Slavs were right up there with the jews, so its starting to piss me off that this american trend of Nazi = white, since it was basically white nations that crushed them.

Anyway i know i'm talking it too seriously, its just a game, but still it bothers me because its popping up everywhere.


Quote:
Himmler about the future of SS

Himmler in Germany, 1930s.
In a personal conversation with Artur Silgailis, chief of staff of Inspection General the Latvian Legion, the Latvian Waffen-SS, Heinrich Himmler outlined his future intentions with the SS and the organization of Europe:

He [Himmler] then singled out those nations which he regarded as belonging to the German family of nations and they were: the Germans, the Dutch, the Flemish, the Anglo-Saxons, the Scandinavians and the Baltic people. 'To combine all of these nations into one big family is the most important task at the present time' [Himmler said]. 'This unification has to take place on the principle of equality and at that same time has to secure the identity of each nation and its economical independence, of course, adjusting the latter to the interests of the whole German living space (...)
After the unification of all the German nations into one family, this family (...) has to take over the mission to include, in the family, all the Roman nations whose living space is favored by nature with a milder climate (...) I am convinced that after the unification, the Roman nations will be able to persevere as the Germans (...)
This enlarged family of the White race will then have the mission to include the Slavic nations into the family also because they too are of the White race (...) it is only with such a unification of the White race that the Western culture could be saved from the Yellow race (...)
At the present time, the Waffen-SS is leading in this respect because its organization is based on the principle of equality. The Waffen-SS comprises not only German, Roman and Slavic, but even Islamic units and at the same time has proven that every unit has maintained its national identity while fighting in close togetherness (...) I know quite well my Germans. The German always likes to think himself better but I would like to avert this. It is important that every Waffen-SS officer obeys the order of another officer of another nationality, as the officer of the other nationality obeys the order of the German officer.


This game is pure fiction and has absolutely no ground in reality.
It can be enjoyed for what it is but sadly the developer chose to go with the hollywood version of the evil "nazi's"

In reality the national socialists despised the klu klux klan. In this game you see them walking side by side...
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