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fisk
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| Quote: | | You guys truly know shit about depression. |
Fuck off! Seriously.
That's just provocation, and you know it.
Yes, yes I'm back.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 02:24 Post subject: |
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The thing about suicide, is that it's not quite so straighforward to be seen as a selfish act. The constant factor in suicide is hopelessness, which is a fully uncomprehensible feeling to someone who's never felt it. It's a psychological act of self preservation. It's not about clear thinking or even the ability to consider others, it runs a whole lot deeper than that.
Another way of considering it is that we all do things that are considered selfish. Life in general is selfish due to human nature, self preservation. We are ultimately centred around ourselves.
What I'm trying to say is to try not to jump to the conclusion that the person whose committed suicide is a 'bad' person, because there's a whole lot more to it than just killing yourself without thought for others.
EDIT: not from experience btw, I did a psychology degree. I guess that makes my opinion as objective as everyone elses though, really.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 02:33 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: |
That's just provocation, and you know it. |
Lol yeah, of course, I spent the time of making a longish and thought out post including personal things about myself purely to get in that 1 line of provocation, truly.
Grow up.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 02:49 Post subject: |
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I have absolutely no respect for someone who kills themselves. I've experienced depression to a certain degree, but I would never kill myself.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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fisk
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 03:45 Post subject: |
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| EwarWoo1 wrote: | | fisk wrote: |
That's just provocation, and you know it. |
Lol yeah, of course, I spent the time of making a longish and thought out post including personal things about myself purely to get in that 1 line of provocation, truly.
Grow up. |
If you're trying to make a point, you do not start by insulting those whom with you speak.
But, being all grown up, and experienced - that should be within your accord already.
Yes, yes I'm back.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 03:59 Post subject: |
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i dont feel any sympathy for such ppl. i would understand if someone with a terminal disease who only has around 1 year left to live or someone who just lost the person he lived for kills himself, but killing yourself while being perfectly healthy because of financial or personal problems is just not to be excused. these people are extreme cowards, you can always start your life anew if everything goes downhill. there are extreme measures for extreme cases, you can always run away to another country, assume a completely new identity and start anew, there are always ways to go on.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 04:15 Post subject: |
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| Immunity wrote: | Some of the replies in this thread fuckin' sicken me. And I thought some of you guys were better than that. How wrong I was.
He had problems, to what degree, no one here knows.
He wanted to say goodbye to the few souls he thought might have cared. I ask you, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THAT? Who the fuck are YOU to judge his decision. Who the fuck are you to assume he did it because "he wanted attention"? Get off your pedestal you napoleonic motherfucker, for one day you might be the one contemplating your life at the barrel of a gun your own hand holds.
No one is asking you to give a shit about the guy. No one is asking you anything at all. However, at the very least you could refrain from calling the guy a chickenshit attention whore.
He made the decision, and it was his decision and his alone to make.
If you are going to blame anybody, blame the fucking news media for whoring it out as usual.
You guys must have some balls of brass eh? Good on ya.
Remember how funny it is when you have your own shit to clean up one day. We'll see how tough you are then.
Ungrateful elitist fucks.
I've said my piece. Addressed to no one in particular, make of it what you will. |
I totally agree.
Ive had someone close to me kill themselves...its not a fuckin joke at all. I mean, think about it. Someone is so desperate, so stressed, that they take their own life...and usually, they are mentally ill (manic depression etc) so its not even like they are in their right mind. Very sad that it came to suicide....
Im not gunna lie, ive contemplated suicide before, but in the end it comes down to 1. if you have the balls to actually kill yourself 2. your head is so messed up you cant find a reason to stay around. Obviously, i didnt do it nor attempt it, but either which way, its no laughing matter.
I feel bad for the guy and his loved ones. |
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fisk
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 04:18 Post subject: |
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Wanting to kill yourself, is one thing. Choosing not to is admirable.
Whereas succumbing to it, is not.
He thought only of himself, if he really loved his closed ones - he would not have left them in sorrow.
Pitiful.
Yes, yes I'm back.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 04:52 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | Wanting to kill yourself, is one thing. Choosing not to is admirable.
Whereas succumbing to it, is not.
He thought only of himself, if he really loved his closed ones - he would not have left them in sorrow.
Pitiful. |
He was having financial trouble, and trouble at school. Has the thought ever occured to you that he may have felt he was a burden on the ones he loved? His parents may have had high expectations of him academicaly, and he just couldn't make the cut. He felt as though he had failed his parents/family via failing school.
Perhaps if you took a moment to think a bit deeper into the motives one might have, you could understand it a bit better, rather than maintaining that hardline "you're a weak worthless motherfucker" stance.
Marlyn Manson in your sig as well as the quote. Man, you're one tough badass huh?
You may be surprised one day when life kicks you in the nuts and brings you to your knees, ripping away all the hopes and dreams you once had. See how fast you get up and carry on eh?
I'm not usually this rude or aggressive man, and I apologize, but this ignorance just gets to me.
I can never be free, because the shackles I wear can't be touched or be seen.
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fisk
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 05:43 Post subject: |
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| Immunity wrote: | | He was having financial trouble, and trouble at school. Has the thought ever occured to you that he may have felt he was a burden on the ones he loved? His parents may have had high expectations of him academicaly, and he just couldn't make the cut. |
And this is precisely what many (if not all) struggle, or have struggled with. Do you think, not everyone has expectations of what to achieve, or are under pressure from both peers, themselves, and their parents?
Adversity is a part of life, and dealing with it by killing yourself is (in my opinion) the cowards way out. There are people that have been through far worse, and lived (+survived) these ordeals, and have become better men (and women) for it.
It's such a bloody waste. His parents went through the ordeal of bringing him to the world, earned money, so that he would get an education, and struggled so that he could live. And he kills himself for it? Ungrateful, selfish.
| Quote: | He felt as though he had failed his parents/family via failing school.
Perhaps if you took a moment to think a bit deeper into the motives one might have, you could understand it a bit better, rather than maintaining that hardline "you're a weak worthless motherfucker" stance. |
I know of many who have failed. And I respect any man who has a lapse of depression from it. I am not, at all, not understanding the pressures of what life can bring. For I have faced many great ordeal myself. But I have friends that have gone through far worse than me, and still managed to hold on. And I respect them a great deal for it.
Seeing someone surrendering like this, is to me, a spit in the face of all who struggle on. It's as if saying: "I had worse trouble than you did, so I'll end it". I highly doubt that.
| Quote: | | Marlyn Manson in your sig as well as the quote. Man, you're one tough badass huh? |
That's not Marilyn Manson, you nitwit.
| Quote: | | You may be surprised one day when life kicks you in the nuts and brings you to your knees, ripping away all the hopes and dreams you once had. See how fast you get up and carry on eh? |
Of what you speak, you know nothing. I will not be as self-righteous as to rectify my arguments by whining about my misfortunes. For they taught me, like a not-so lenient master.
Suffice to say, even though I may not have gone through the adversities that some of my friends have, I've seen my share of the ill-givings of life.
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I'm not usually this rude or aggressive man, and I apologize, but this ignorance just gets to me. |
Why do you apologize for your belief? I certainly won't.
We are both supporting what we have learned from life. You lead yours by your experience, and so do I.
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 06:00 Post subject: |
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Suicide stuff aside, why did Yahoo and CNN butcher the story so much?
(btw, I can't believe you thought that was Manson LOL, somebody needs to go see The Crow.)
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fisk
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 06:12 Post subject: |
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| D4rkKnight wrote: | Suicide stuff aside, why did Yahoo and CNN butcher the story so much?
(btw, I can't believe you thought that was Manson LOL, somebody needs to go see The Crow.) |
Wake up, "news media" always does this.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 09:33 Post subject: |
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I know I raised some provocative points, but don't forget guys, what's done is done and at the end of the day, he commited suicide for whatever reason.
Just look after your mates and family, get laid, sleep well at night.
Not saying dont discuss it or anything, but getting worked up over this shit isn't really worth it.
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Godlikez*
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 12:50 Post subject: |
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| ELIZ wrote: | i bet that guy now laughing somewhere seeing all this posts  |
so your scared to say that it's sad for people that they need to kill them selfs to lose there problems because you think the guy didnt kill himself...
I'm like who gives a shit if he is reading this and laughing his ass off...
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chiv
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 13:55 Post subject: |
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k, can i have your dvd collection and pc?
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 14:38 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 15:03 Post subject: |
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aw its closed. i was gonna post GL HF
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 15:59 Post subject: |
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if I would do something like that I would try to rob a bank orso... and if it all didnt work out ... well you can than always go to your plan B
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 18:07 Post subject: |
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| Immunity wrote: | | fisk wrote: | Wanting to kill yourself, is one thing. Choosing not to is admirable.
Whereas succumbing to it, is not.
He thought only of himself, if he really loved his closed ones - he would not have left them in sorrow.
Pitiful. |
He was having financial trouble, and trouble at school. Has the thought ever occured to you that he may have felt he was a burden on the ones he loved? His parents may have had high expectations of him academicaly, and he just couldn't make the cut. He felt as though he had failed his parents/family via failing school.
Perhaps if you took a moment to think a bit deeper into the motives one might have, you could understand it a bit better, rather than maintaining that hardline "you're a weak worthless motherfucker" stance.
Marlyn Manson in your sig as well as the quote. Man, you're one tough badass huh?
You may be surprised one day when life kicks you in the nuts and brings you to your knees, ripping away all the hopes and dreams you once had. See how fast you get up and carry on eh?
I'm not usually this rude or aggressive man, and I apologize, but this ignorance just gets to me. |
Poor baby, he was having money problems and wasnt doing well in school.
lets put it in perspective, Im a 24 year old man and 2 years ago I sat by my mothers bed and watched her slowly die, the big C. Thats depression there folks. Hang on while I head over to gamefaq's and pronounce my impending suicide.
my expierence was tough, very tough infact you probably cant imagine it. I'm still here. |
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deelix
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 19:08 Post subject: |
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I think i care to much about this because iv never lost anybody i knew\like\love
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 21:46 Post subject: |
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what a fag
People are born crippled,mentally retarded and stuff and he chucks his perfect self away, everyone has problems at that age with money and school and by drinking alod of antifreeze n pills he just screwed up his chance of being an organ donor.
Remmeber, pain is natures way of toughening. what a noob to throw away the rest of his life. But thats his choice and he made it
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 21:57 Post subject: |
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who gives a shit even if it is real which i seriously doubt unless you can provide me with a link to a major news site that confirms the story
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vortex66
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 22:03 Post subject: |
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what a dumbass
now he'll never know when duke nukem 4-ever will be released
i do'nt feel sorry for losers like this one, killing yourself is not the answer
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deelix
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Jan 2006 22:07 Post subject: |
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| vortex66 wrote: | what a dumbass
now he'll never know when duke nukem 4-ever will be released
i do'nt feel sorry for losers like this one, killing yourself is not the answer |
I know. But tho we don't know him, maybe he had bigger problems than we tought...
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Cohen
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2006 18:12 Post subject: |
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its hardly funny, but its hardly anything more than pitiful. My life has been rough as assholes but ive stuck through.
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,someone must be on seriuos medication cycle to not see the diffrence between this two absolutely diffrent ppl 
