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| jackasshole wrote: | Got the whole place to myself now.....
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Took you some time... |
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Nov 2017 12:45 Post subject: |
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Played 12 hours so far and it's a lot of fun. The start sucks because everything kicks your ass so you lose too much time evading enemies instead of enjoying the game but I focused on getting the stats for a sword I stole, and then it became a lot easier.
Exploring the old ruins is loads of fun - I like all the books and notes you can read. Combat is a bit fiddly but once you get the hang of it, it's not that bad.
I find that a good bow and enough arrows + jet pack lets you cheat a little with the tougher enemies - I cleared out entire camps by using a bow when possible, then sneaking up with jet pack and whacking their ass with my sword, then move out again, etc.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Nov 2017 20:53 Post subject: |
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vurt
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Nov 2017 01:33 Post subject: |
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I think you're taking the video to seriously, its not really a review channel, more satire/comedy and whilst he does have some good points and does review the game to some degree, its mostly for the laughs.
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| Posted: Sun, 19th Nov 2017 19:51 Post subject: |
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Okay I completed this game so thought I'd write a short-ish review.
Basically, this game has a LOT of good stuff going on which is impressive considering the limited budget. It has quite a few rough edges but if you enjoy die-hard RPGs, then you won't mind overlooking those.
What's good:
- the setting and story is VERY well written. In fact, it trumps practically all RPGs of the past 10 years. While the impact of an asteroid doesn't sound all that special, what the devs did with this basic premise is quite amazing. The story also unfolds quite well and keeps you hooked.
- The quests are usually well laid out, interesting and enjoyable to complete
- Exploration is a blast - the map is huge and the different types of zones add some much needed variation. The map is very well designed, too, with no flat open areas to be found.
- There's tons of stuff to pick up, craft, sell, steal, discover - even notes and books that tell a tale of what happened in the past. I love stuff like this and having an unlimited inventory is something I can appreciate (it really bugged me in The Witcher 3)
- The length of the game is pretty much spot on. I completed it in 36 hours but rushed the final 5 hours because I wanted to complete it this weekend but I still had a few dozen side quests to complete. The game is huge enough that it feels massive, but it doesn't stretch itself too thinly so I never got bored.
The mediocre:
- combat isn't the best. It's not terrible but fighting always feels a little clunky. I dropped melee in favour of ranged combat and found that guns always shoot a little to the right - it's small stuff like this that is kind of annoying.
- AI is rather limited and it's easy to trick creature and enemy AI once you know and recognise the patterns.
- movement is stilted and not always as responsive as I'd like
- the factions ... I never felt like I belonged with either. In an RPG I like to roleplay and feel part of the world and the factions were designed to each have their strengths and weaknesses but it means I don't sympathize with any.
- the assets were recycled a little too much for my taste. The first third of the game was a pleasure to play through until I discovered so many of the new places were just having the same buildings, same machines, etc.
- crafting could have been a LOT better - for the amount of stuff you can pick up, you really barely need any of them for the most important items. Since you'll only upgrade weapons a few times (the requirements go up with every upgrade which is silly if you ask me) it means the crafting table ends up only being used for adding gems and making food and potions - most of which you'll find around in such abundance that I rarely need to craft them anyway.
The bad:
- the scripting is wonky. Too many quests were triggered by me finding a certain object and it made quest progression sometimes confusing and buggy. They should have made items only spawn when a quest got activated or put a safeguard in place (like not letting you notice or pick it up). Also, some dialog hinted at stuff I actually hadn't discovered yet. I realize it's very complex to script everything correctly in a big ass open world game such as this, but they should have found ways to avoid this.
- one of the game's strengths is in the freedom it gives the player but with that freedom also comes a rather confusing bewilderment from the game not giving you enough direction at times. Suddenly seeing "killing this character will have consequences" on the screen after killing a character that attacked you makes you stop and go "wait ... what will I miss out on?". Some will find this a strength of a game but I like to know how my actions influence the game - especially if it leads to a poor ending you didn't want (which ALSO is the case with this game depending on your cold level).
All in all, I enjoyed it. A solid 8/10. With a bit of tweaking, it could have been even better though.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2017 14:09 Post subject: |
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I hope for one more patch.. then i'll start playing it, seems great imo, heard many positive comments from hardcore Gothic 1-2 fans..
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2017 14:30 Post subject: |
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https://steamdb.info/app/411300/depots/
No depot activity in almost a month though, but there are occasions where the devs keep builds outside of Steam distribution without maintaining multiple branches at all so chances are that's what PB is doing.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2017 14:31 Post subject: |
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Finished after 70 hours, level 50. I think I'll go exploring some more, there are still placrs on the map I haven't visited and map pieces to find. And different factions to join.
I really hope they patch some stuff though, especialy tthe scripting bugs and that damned legendary bow that gives you scattered shot, but then leaves the skill at -1/1, so you can never have it with another bow.l .
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typical jew comment
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2017 21:26 Post subject: |
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| Bendi wrote: | Finished after 70 hours, level 50. I think I'll go exploring some more, there are still placrs on the map I haven't visited and map pieces to find. And different factions to join.
I really hope they patch some stuff though, especialy tthe scripting bugs and that damned legendary bow that gives you scattered shot, but then leaves the skill at -1/1, so you can never have it with another bow.l . |
The game is great, it has so much potential and at it's core it's way better then you're avarage Bethesa RPG for instance. But it's rough on the edges. Realy puzzles me why Piranha bytes just makes the same mistakes with every game they deliver.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2017 21:53 Post subject: |
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I'm guessing budget and a smaller development team yet they still tried going for something like Gothic 3 but doing it right this time but the larger game world coupled with freedom you have in how to take on quests, branching from quest outcomes and dialogue and numerous other changes means more chance of script breaks or other glitches and overall game balance is probably a issue too with some weapons and abilities likely dominating others.
If PB keeps supporting the game it would be nice to see one or two additional patches at least ironing out the worst reported and known issues but Q&A testing must have been really rough and the small dev team and budget isn't exactly helping.
Still a very solid experience even with these challenges though, just remember to save often to mitigate any issues though if things break after several hours because of something that happened early on that's going to be a problem regardless.
Glad it doesn't seem like you have to restart the game for some of these fixes either, that always hinders things if that's the only way to resolve a particular glitch.
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Nov 2017 13:14 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Nov 2017 15:52 Post subject: |
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They already started working on Elex 2 before Elex even got released, I wouldn't expect much in ways of updates for this game anymore. Small team and all.
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vurt
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Nov 2017 19:21 Post subject: |
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| inz wrote: | | They already started working on Elex 2 before Elex even got released, I wouldn't expect much in ways of updates for this game anymore. Small team and all. |
That's only positive since its probably the same engine which in turn means its more likely to see updates applied at least to core bugs.. requires little effort to fix it for the first game as well as to the new.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Nov 2017 00:50 Post subject: |
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I'm trying to finish my review and I loaded up the game today to check some stuff and pretty much all my saves are fucked. I get some insane textures flickering and my character is invisible (probably stuck beneath the map?) and no key is working.
LE: I started a new game and I have the same problem. Anyone with the latest nvidia drivers has problems with the game?
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Nov 2017 04:19 Post subject: |
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I had the same problem. When I loaded a save I went into my graphics settings menu and the texture and other settings had switched to low. For some reason changing them back fixed the saves. I'm not sure if this will help, I also applied the save fix mentioned earlier but I don't think that was related.
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Nov 2017 07:23 Post subject: |
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Nov 2017 08:16 Post subject: |
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Nov 2017 21:58 Post subject: |
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| ELEX review wrote: |
It’s hard to make a defensive case for ELEX and the developers have pretty much ruined any attempt when charging 50$ for it. The game is in a rough technical state and no matter how much you are willing to ignore that for the sake of immersion and nostalgia, the problems will eventually get to you. ELEX is haunted at every step by a limited production budget that forced a small team of developers to cut many corners in order to deliver the grand vision for their game. However,ELEX follows in the footsteps of Gothic 2 like no other game that I played, providing a true RPG experience in an actually well designed open world. It has many problems, but that won’t stop me from eagerly waiting for the sequel the same way I waited for Gothic 3, hopefully not with the same end result. It’s understandable to avoid a full price purchase. But if you are a fan of the genre, give it time, wait for the patches (maybe an EE?!) and the price cuts, because it would be a shame to skip on this game altogether. |
Source:
www.thegameslashers.com/2017/11/elex-review.html
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Nov 2017 22:01 Post subject: |
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I guess he forgot to mention that mega huge companies and publishers with thousands of employees and enormous budget in comparison have released games in same or worse shape.. why not take a look at the Ass. Creed Origins videos with the silly bugs..
Though i do think as a small company they are doing themsevles a disservice by charging so much, they're indie (at least in comparison to something like Bethesda etc), the price needs to be reflected.. but to say its buggier than anything else, not really.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Nov 2017 22:56 Post subject: |
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I didn't forget. This is a 50$ game that has numerous gameplay and technical issues. Couple that with the low production value and the dated graphics and there is no need for that comparison. Sure, AAAs do have some stupid design choices and an extreme streamlining, but they rarely come with a gameplay hindered by problems at every corner.
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vurt
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Nov 2017 22:58 Post subject: |
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Like all games at release. I know numerous people who have finished it without problems..
personally i'm waiting for at least 1 more patch, i have no real problems with waiting, used to it by now, since its pretty much a norm for all games. For Witcher 3 i waited over 2 years, which was a good choice, imo (mods etc)..
And yes, i agree with the price, read my post again.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Nov 2017 23:43 Post subject: |
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I know you mentioned it, I was just saying the game should also be judged according to its price tag. It's not like I'm criticizing this game without a good reason, but the review is positive anyway. I consider ELEX the best RPG I played this year, despite its many many flaws.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Dec 2017 21:20 Post subject: |
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| Bendi wrote: | https://steamcommunity.com/app/411300/discussions/0/1488866180592049542/
Known issue with latest drivers. |
That last driver is terrible. EA (the cunts) forced me to install it to play Battlefield 1 and it suddenly broke several other games I was playing INCLUDING Battlefield 1.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Dec 2017 21:21 Post subject: |
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| Nodrim wrote: | | I know you mentioned it, I was just saying the game should also be judged according to its price tag. It's not like I'm criticizing this game without a good reason, but the review is positive anyway. I consider ELEX the best RPG I played this year, despite its many many flaws. |
People keep talking about bugs. I finished the game and the only bugs I encountered, were two scripting bugs due to the way the game is structured. One story line got fucked up because I had done part of a quest before I had received it. Otherwise, zero bugs.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Dec 2017 21:28 Post subject: |
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It has plenty of bugs but even more technical problems.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Dec 2017 21:42 Post subject: |
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| red_avatar wrote: |
People keep talking about bugs. I finished the game and the only bugs I encountered, were two scripting bugs due to the way the game is structured. One story line got fucked up because I had done part of a quest before I had received it. Otherwise, zero bugs. |
Same thing here. I did not find many bugs. Very good game.
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you could say the same about rockstar, bethesda and so many others.. The difference is that PB haven't deteriorated to that kind of degree.. too my knowledge it does not even have microtransactions and loot boxes which seems to be the norm now.
