Star Wars: The Last Jedi [Ep VIII / Rian Johnson / Dec 2017]
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Il_Padrino




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Dec 2017 14:42    Post subject:
The small scope with the grand scheme of things pushed to the background I have absolutely no problems with. To me, that's what defines a good Star Wars movie, so that the focus is on the characters and their (inter)actions.
Leia as an ambassador and rebel is all we needed to know for A New Hope.

They took that from Empire.. for this movie, which is also basically one giant chase between 3 Star Destroyers and the Millenium Falcon.
Making everything epic and connected is only since The Phantom Menace, and you just get a giant mess with dozens of characters spread all over the universe doing 'epic' shit.
That's also why Rogue One works better than TFA (and why TFA is not a good remake of ANH).

I really don't need them to over-explain everything.
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Dec 2017 14:49    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:

@vurt
Way back then i thought Clone Wars was just some kids cartoon without much going on.
Boy was i glad that recently i changed my mind to try it out.
CW and Rebels are really so fun and well done shows! Smile
Also Kenobi actually is a cool character there, compared to the shows.


Yes, Kenobi is far better there.

Chopper is such a cool and grumpy droid with so much character in comparison to the super boring BB-8.

I guess the style/graphics in s01 of Clone Wars might turn people off and overall the graphics might turn people off in the other seasons too, but i think it works and i got used to it.

It's no more a children's show than the movies.
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Dec 2017 20:06    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Bob Barnsen wrote:

@vurt
Way back then i thought Clone Wars was just some kids cartoon without much going on.
Boy was i glad that recently i changed my mind to try it out.
CW and Rebels are really so fun and well done shows! Smile
Also Kenobi actually is a cool character there, compared to the shows.


Yes, Kenobi is far better there.

Chopper is such a cool and grumpy droid with so much character in comparison to the super boring BB-8.

I guess the style/graphics in s01 of Clone Wars might turn people off and overall the graphics might turn people off in the other seasons too, but i think it works and i got used to it.

It's no more a children's show than the movies.


I always thought "this is gonna be stupid" but now that I actually watched the first 5 eps of it, I do actually like it.
I wish I had watched this earlier! Thanks for the explanations, I wouldn't have even touched it otherwise.
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Dec 2017 21:06    Post subject:
NP! enjoy and merry Christmas
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2017 10:40    Post subject:


Read all the spoilers and I feel bad for Mark. Rian Johnson is an idiot. If Disney has some sense then they better hand off the new trilogy to someone who can actually write. Laughing



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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2017 11:32    Post subject:
Why did he make Luke say "laser sword" when he was refering to his light sabre? It's meant to troll the fans i guess, since fans often ridicule people using this incorrect word for their weapon(which we know has nothing to do with laser)? My guess, it's meant to say "it's MY movie, now light sabers is something else, so ha!" or what was the intention.

Should we expect more "fun" trollings and pop culture/movie references in the next movie? Its turned to absolute garbage when a director is using the material in this way.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2017 13:07    Post subject:
Yeah, I don't mind them turning expectation upside down, but when they do it to extremes like this, it's just a giant fuck you to the fans that made the franchise popular in the first place.


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2017 15:02    Post subject:
True, baddas Luke would never turn into living-with-smurfs-running-away-from-life-hobo-looking-piece-of-shit 'Luke' wtf?!
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2017 18:45    Post subject:
They completely fucked Luke's character.
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Fuck off Disney.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2017 20:29    Post subject:
Rian Johnson makes it blatantly obvious that the bastardisation of Luke was done solely because he's incapable of writing people with two similar personalities

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If he comes in as just an optimistic fighter for the good guys, that gives Rey nothing to bounce up against — that’s just an older version of Rey. So it’s not what Mark had in his head initially, and that’s why he’s spoken very openly about his being caught off guard by the script and where the character ends up. But I knew this is where it had to be. We got into the conversations, and we got into the work, and we talked, and we argued, and we discussed, and that process ended up being very good for the character and also for our working relationship. It was a very good one.


http://www.businessinsider.com/star-wars-rian-johnson-interview-about-the-last-jedi-fan-backlash-2017-12
Yeah, Rian. That's exactly what Luke needed... character assassination! Laughing



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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2017 22:00    Post subject:
PistolWhip wrote:
They completely fucked Luke's character.
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Fuck off Disney.

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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2017 22:12    Post subject:
Yuri wrote:
Rian Johnson makes it blatantly obvious that the bastardisation of Luke was done solely because he's incapable of writing people with two similar personalities

Quote:
If he comes in as just an optimistic fighter for the good guys, that gives Rey nothing to bounce up against — that’s just an older version of Rey. So it’s not what Mark had in his head initially, and that’s why he’s spoken very openly about his being caught off guard by the script and where the character ends up. But I knew this is where it had to be. We got into the conversations, and we got into the work, and we talked, and we argued, and we discussed, and that process ended up being very good for the character and also for our working relationship. It was a very good one.


http://www.businessinsider.com/star-wars-rian-johnson-interview-about-the-last-jedi-fan-backlash-2017-12
Yeah, Rian. That's exactly what Luke needed... character assassination! Laughing

Because Luke was overshadowed by Obi-Wan in A New Hope, obviously Rolling Eyes Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2017 22:15    Post subject:
This movie made me want to rewatch prequels. It was this bad Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Dec 2017 02:34    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
PistolWhip wrote:
They completely fucked Luke's character.
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Fuck off Disney.

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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Dec 2017 04:33    Post subject:
Oh please.
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Kylo is the only decent character... but these movies are done by people who don't know Star Wars... just watched them.


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Dec 2017 16:27    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
but these movies are done by people who don't know Star Wars... just watched them.

good discription of what i would call the prequels despite them being lucases brainchild


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Dec 2017 16:36    Post subject:
Actually the prequels followed the Star Wars formula though.


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Dec 2017 16:44    Post subject:
This felt more like they want to get rid of everything that resembles the original Star Wars. Including the fans. Longterm business plan.


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Dec 2017 20:12    Post subject:
I like the 3 latest Star Wars movies. I hated the first 3 ones (not the original 3 ones ofc).


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Dec 2017 17:31    Post subject:
I saw this last thursday. Worst star wars movie in my opinion. Fucking atrocious, all the progressive virtue signaling left a side, it was a total piece of shit.


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Dec 2017 18:02    Post subject:
Well.. have to cater to everyone and their pet poodle, right?


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Dec 2017 00:35    Post subject:
PistolWhip wrote:
PumpAction wrote:
PistolWhip wrote:
They completely fucked Luke's character.
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Fuck off Disney.

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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Dec 2017 16:41    Post subject:


Spoilers obviously Laughing Laughing Laughing



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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2017 20:23    Post subject:
Yuri wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v2PV52WNLY

Spoilers obviously Laughing Laughing Laughing


Yeah that's about half of the stuff I noticed as well.

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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2017 01:58    Post subject:
Yuri wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v2PV52WNLY
Spoilers obviously Laughing Laughing Laughing
Gawd so bang on... Crying or Very sad R*tarding my childhood with each release. Mad


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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-franchise-crosses-4-billion-eclipsing-disneys-lucasfilm-price-1070624


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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 02:46    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 14:48    Post subject:
I will never watch this terrible film Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Jan 2018 16:34    Post subject:
Lucky... Sad


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FusionDexterity wrote:
I will never watch this terrible film Laughing


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