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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Feb 2018 18:20    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
http://benchmark.finalfantasyxv.com/en/

Nice, let's see.


Vryder wrote:
Pre-order for Steam is up.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/637650/FINAL_FANTASY_XV_WINDOWS_EDITION/


36€+ for most regions. Meh, isodemo it is then.


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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Feb 2018 19:21    Post subject:




Focused


I know it's just a benchmark, but damn, the game seems so boring. And those 4 gay dudes are not making it any better.
Will play the isodemo, but i somehow doubt i will finish it.


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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Feb 2018 19:43    Post subject:
Yeah the game has changed a bit since it's reveal some six - seven years ago.

Switched lead partway through too and dropped a ton of stuff including much of the story though these separate DLC packs and game additions have patched up the game somewhat.

So you can do things such actually drive the car, switch party members and more that should probably have been in the game since launch but it's still a bit of a road-trip adventure and pretty disjointed due to the lengthy dev time and cuts.

EDIT:


That's seven years ago, some of this is in the game, most of it isn't or was changed as far as I understood it.
(Stella who? Oh the supposed female lead character? She got cut.)


EDIT: For all the guys involved in the series though they could have had a even worse lead dude...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-best-final-fantasy-games-%E2%80%93-as-chosen-by-the-franchise%E2%80%99s-creators-ps-blog.19854/

https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2018/01/30/the-best-final-fantasy-games-as-chosen-by-the-franchises-creators/#sf180699949

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Motomu Toriyama

The best: Final Fantasy XIII
Why: Because I can confront any powerful enemy if I’m with Lightning, the strongest heroine.



At least he's honest about himself and his opinion, now stay the fuck away from the franchise. Razz

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-best-final-fantasy-games-%E2%80%93-as-chosen-by-the-franchise%E2%80%99s-creators-ps-blog.19854/page-2#post-3940806

https://i.imgur.com/Pw7rI4N.jpg


And then there's this guy who's been with the franchise for a long time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroyuki_Ito

He cleans the office building now.
http://i.imgur.com/Leg5ptM.jpg

Someone must have disliked him a whole lot.
(Well as the wiki article shows he's still involved a bit.)
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Feb 2018 21:00    Post subject:
5756 (Fairly high) on 1080p with High setting... that last part was so gay... grinhurt


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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Feb 2018 21:38    Post subject:
Benchmark at 4K/High Quality



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4k high on my 1070 = 2809 score. Game looks great, HDR implemented in this bench too ( obviously need to enable it manually in w10 so that it works ingame).

Looked pretty playable at around 25fps, a few settings lower and locked 30 hopefully.


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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Feb 2018 22:06    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:




Focused


I know it's just a benchmark, but damn, the game seems so boring. And those 4 gay dudes are not making it any better.
Will play the isodemo, but i somehow doubt i will finish it.


Whats that?, lasagne wrapped in burnt cardboard and load of semen top of it, very fitting meal for this gay game, looks ridiculous, shame what has happened to Final Fantasy.
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Feb 2018 22:15    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
4k high on my 1070 = 2809 score. Game looks great, HDR implemented in this bench too ( obviously need to enable it manually in w10 so that it works ingame).

Looked pretty playable at around 25fps, a few settings lower and locked 30 hopefully.

is it possible to play 1080p + HDR (assuming you have a proper monitor) or is it some silly 4k hdr locked combo?


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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Feb 2018 22:32    Post subject:
konkol84 wrote:
russ80 wrote:
4k high on my 1070 = 2809 score. Game looks great, HDR implemented in this bench too ( obviously need to enable it manually in w10 so that it works ingame).

Looked pretty playable at around 25fps, a few settings lower and locked 30 hopefully.

is it possible to play 1080p + HDR (assuming you have a proper monitor) or is it some silly 4k hdr locked combo?


Didn’t try but should work? Can check tomorrow.


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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Feb 2018 23:50    Post subject:
Meh, some stuttering in a few places at standard and high... maybe win7 related? Final game will let you choose more than these three presets anyway but still can't say that it's a game I can't wait to play.


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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 00:03    Post subject:
From what i've been reading Nomura wanted to make this game dark and gritty and was almost finished, but instead of released they removed him from the team and and took another 3 years to add some shitty car gameplay with a broken story. Sounds like a lovely game.


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I think dark and gritty for Final Fantasy has been a pretty constant thing since Final Fantasy XIII I believe although to varying degrees with some games such as Type-0 going from one extreme to another scaling up to where pretty much anyone can die.
(Little girls are wholly ineffective against 13.7mm explosive round ammunition as it turns out.)

Even World of Final Fantasy had some darker moments though it's mostly humorous.

For this? Well it's mainly due to some content being a bit rushed but it doesn't seem to mesh very well at least for some parts having some dramatic moments and then barely no reaction from the characters themselves.


EDIT: Well it's been up and down since Final Fantasy 2 but though the main installments appear to have had more serious and dramatic or downer moments as the series went on and even the side games have picked up on that.


...I guess when Square said no happy endings someone took it to mean for their games too. Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 02:41    Post subject:
Can't see how anyone could possibly consider ANY of the XIII games even remotely good. They were terrible, with poor game mechanics, incredibly linear gameplay, awful characters and a pretty confusing storyline.

I still say X is one of the best for gameplay and story. Except the Tidus voice actor. He should have been shot.


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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 03:20    Post subject:
damn.. that benchmark sucks Laughing freezing, glitching.. I thought my GPU was fucked...

Just shows how old my system is now, if it can't cope with a shitty PS4 port.

Standard quality@1080p = Score:10578.
High quality@1080p = Score: 7581

Yeah.. I need an upgrade. But not at the prices of DDR4 RAM right now Neutral


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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 03:31    Post subject:
Kaltern wrote:
Can't see how anyone could possibly consider ANY of the XIII games even remotely good. They were terrible, with poor game mechanics, incredibly linear gameplay, awful characters and a pretty confusing storyline.

I still say X is one of the best for gameplay and story. Except the Tidus voice actor. He should have been shot.


totally agree.


Kaltern wrote:
damn.. that benchmark sucks Laughing freezing, glitching.. I thought my GPU was fucked...

Just shows how old my system is now, if it can't cope with a shitty PS4 port.

Standard quality@1080p = Score:10578.
High quality@1080p = Score: 7581

Yeah.. I need an upgrade. But not at the prices of DDR4 RAM right now Neutral

Not neccesarily.

it is not "just" a ps 4 port on high settings at least: (besides square doesnt do good ports)

"High quality This setting will activate the high end graphical features incorporated into FINAL FANTASY XV WINDOWS EDITION, such as NVIDIA® Turf Effects™, NVIDIA® HairWorks™ and NVIDIA® Flow™, etc. The resolution of shadows and textures, as well as the LOD distance will also increase under this setting. A graphics card with a significant amount of VRAM is required to use it. "

Since i don't have a high end gpu: I remmeber hairworks being a performance eating useless featurewhen it came out (with tomb raider remake?). If it is still the same it's no wonder that the benchmark results are underwhelming for you.
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 05:48    Post subject:
This glitch in Final Fantasy XV benchmark will allow you to control Noctis and explore the environments
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In order to activate this glitch, players will have to start mashing the WASD keys and the left and right clicks, and move their mouse once Noctis gets out of the car (right before he rides a Chocobo). If you’ve done this right, you will be able to control Noctis and explore the environments that are featured in this benchmark.

Players will be able to keep playing until the next day as the benchmark supports a day-night cycle (the benchmark will then crash).

Last but not least, players will have to keep pressing “E” in case Noctis starts attacking in order to cancel/stop the attack move.

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/this-glitch-in-final-fantasy-xv-benchmark-will-allow-you-to-control-noctis-and-explore-the-environments/


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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 08:51    Post subject:
No isodemo, it has denuvo! Months of wait!
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 09:37    Post subject:
Civ01 wrote:
No isodemo, it has denuvo! Months of wait!


Honestly you don't miss out on much, empty and boring open world for the sake of it and a unfinished and uninteresting story where everything interesting happens offscreen and don't get me started on the combat.
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 09:45    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:

I know it's just a benchmark, but damn, the game seems so boring. And those 4 gay dudes are not making it any better.
Will play the isodemo, but i somehow doubt i will finish it.


It is super boring game. Don't know how it is so highly rated when everything about the game is complete garbage. The chapters and the quests are mindnumbing boring.

The whole Final Fantasy thing these days is garbage tier. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 12:26    Post subject:
Shortcode code for 1440p High in case anyone wants to test at that res.
"ffxv.exe" --graphicsIni config\GraphicsConfig_BenchmarkHigh.ini -f --displayResolution 2560 1440 --renderingResolution 2560 1440 --locale=en

Gotten 62xx on a 6700k@4.5 + 1080 (non-ti)

Not sure about the game though, i was really looking forward to it but looking at the world itself it looks a little bland ;o
I'm not too fussed about other's reviews since 99% of the world bashes ff13 which i really loved so yeh lol
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 13:44    Post subject:
i read that xii was utilizing 100% of the gpu even in menus

what about this benchmark? anyone tried checking their gpu utilization?


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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 13:49    Post subject:
Civ01 wrote:
No isodemo, it has denuvo! Months of wait!

lmao that trumpspeak is catching on, I love it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 14:20    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
I think dark and gritty for Final Fantasy has been a pretty constant thing since Final Fantasy XIII I believe although to varying degrees with some games such as Type-0 going from one extreme to another scaling up to where pretty much anyone can die.
(Little girls are wholly ineffective against 13.7mm explosive round ammunition as it turns out.)

Even World of Final Fantasy had some darker moments though it's mostly humorous.

For this? Well it's mainly due to some content being a bit rushed but it doesn't seem to mesh very well at least for some parts having some dramatic moments and then barely no reaction from the characters themselves.


EDIT: Well it's been up and down since Final Fantasy 2 but though the main installments appear to have had more serious and dramatic or downer moments as the series went on and even the side games have picked up on that.


...I guess when Square said no happy endings someone took it to mean for their games too. Razz


I haven't thought any of the final fantasy' were dark or gritty. They might have dark bits here and there, but its not really "mature". Still has teenage angst Japanese Shounen anime themes story telling etc.. But I guess what I mean is, originally it had alot of religious context similar to xenogears, and it was one of those"why are we here" kinda things. And they completely changed it.

From what I read is the 2nd half of the game was changed so drastically that it seems like two separate games. And the game was almost completed as Nomura envisioned 3 years ago. But the 'mature themes" square did not like them and spent another 3 years changing it. Which I find ridiculous, and I do believe its true.
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 14:21    Post subject:
This is a darker one alright. While it certainly have all the problems people mention, it's certainly a fantastic game.
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 15:19    Post subject:
They're a bit disjointed I guess.

Way too much text: (Though still not enough to accurately summarize 15 games in roughly a bit over two, almost three decades.)
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(End of poorly summarizing the main FF installments.)

The young adult / teenager and angst stuff is more common in the later games too and that eh I'm not a huge fan of it myself, showing growth and maturity seems to be a popular method for story progression and plot development in JRPG's in general though but in many cases the protagonist just comes across as selfish, emotional or whiny and is a total idiot and completely lacking awareness or any semblance of intelligence or thought at all ha ha.

That doesn't really go for only the newer JRPG's though even if it has been a common trope for them too but also many older games whether it's because the story is a complete wreck or the plot dictates you have to do this or that or the character actually is a utter idiot.


FF7 you have Cloud. (Though he has a bit of a reason for his behavior I suppose.)
FF8 there's Squall (When he's not going total mindfuck being completely off in his own world.)
FF9 there's Zidane even if he's not as angsty.
FF10 there's Tidus
FF12 there's Vaan
FF13 has Lighting come across as a bit older and perhaps a bit mature..for a few minutes at least and then acting like a brat. Razz

And I guess Noctis here in FF 15 but...
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(Spoilers, kinda.)
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 15:45    Post subject:
Regarding FF8

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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Feb 2018 15:59    Post subject:
Yeah it's one of the more popular theories as to what's going on with the game past the first disc where the developers had all sorts of weird events and encounters both optional but also part of the story.

I don't think the lead designer ever clarified either but thought it was a interesting theory and players basically making up their own mind as to what's going on because the later-game parts and the ending in particular are just that impossible with everything that is going on.

EDIT: Spawning this and a ton of debates and arguments both for and against the theory.
 Spoiler:
 


EDIT: Probably putting that URL in a spoiler for those who might be interested in playing the game without potentially spoiling anything since the URL itself is a pretty clear one even if it's just one possible explanation.

The game hasn't aged all that well though, enemies get stronger as you level up so the tactic is to level up the GF instead and draw upon them to avoid HP bloat and enemies having all kinds of powerful abilities plus you don't earn much from actually leveling up either compared to the GF so it's fully possible to beat the game at a very low level while being extremely powerful.
There are playthroughs where the game starts and then you murder the story characters you intend to use for he main party and they are just dragged with the rest of the characters while dead from beginning almost to the end of the game so they stay level 1 and earn no XP.

(Though I believe there's also items for this so even the developers must have realized there's benefits from not earning XP for the party members and keeping them at or near level 1 for the entire game.)
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