Kingdom Come: Deliverance / Deliverance II
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 06:19    Post subject:
Kingdom Come: Deliverance appears to have been downgraded from its stunning PC beta version
Quote:


https://www.dsogaming.com/news/kingdom-come-deliverance-appears-to-have-been-downgraded-from-its-stunning-pc-beta-version/



I also found some other screenshots from back then, at how it looked:
Quote:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-deliver-me-from-fantasy.3221/



Okay


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 07:11    Post subject:
bart5986 wrote:
dethy wrote:
So... what's the issue of using the mod to save anywhere anytime? Those who want that choice, have an option.



For whatever reason they think everyone should be able to have unlimited saves.


What they don't realise is how having unlimited saves at your disposal changes the game.


A mod like that is basically a cheat, thats why its better staying as a mod so you can choose if you want it or not.


But, isn't it quote punishing where you have a game that is riddled with bugs, especially the criminal activities.

I dunno, maybe it's just me. I don't save every 5 min, however, I also don't trust this game affecting my fun so I do save whenever I'm about to perform some really weird shit.

I'm also avoiding most criminal activities until they iron out the problems with reputation loss.


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 07:25    Post subject:
Aquma wrote:
It seems I kinda overleveled the game, lol. Badly. I reached the Runt boss fight at level 13, with 15 in both strength and sword skill, a plate armor and Magdeburg Sword. I literally killed him in 1,5s, with one stab to the face after a parry Laughing Game managed to bug out on me and not show a cutscene, so I went to yt and it seems people find it super tough, even cheese him with bows somehow Laughing


I had to start that fight again and again, then on one "bow run", he attacked me (like 3 seconds in), my barely drawn bow fired when he hit me, somehow, somewhere.
Instant "win" cutscene.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 07:30    Post subject:
I think I fucked my game, I still can progress fine, but I have one annoying bug, spoiler just in case:

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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 07:41    Post subject:
Also, WTF is up with the lighting? I CAN'T SEE SHIT past 22. I have a torch lit (420 watchman style), and still, I can't see SHIT one meter in front of me.
Even during the day, some hovels are sometimes impossible to navigate.
Yes, I tried to fiddle with the gamma, of course.
It's like I just took 10G's in a fighter jet =/



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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 08:19    Post subject:
Loving the game, real Morrowind vibe to the exploration and questing. Wouldn't have even considered picking it up without the option to save the game whenever I wanted.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 08:29    Post subject:
Are there actually that many secrets in the wilderness? I've found some camps and forest gardens etc, but is there a chance of getting some hidden (good) loot. Ie. early plate mails / weapons? (I know there are the treasure maps, but I have not looked into those yet).

My current play through is so far piss easy, I spent the 'real' tutorial picking herbs and got herbalism to ~15 or something while fetching ale for the father Razz ) Now I can pick thousands of flowers in few minutes and sell them for few thousand. I been practicing my archery by sneaking to farms at night and shooting the sleeping inhabitants point blank Razz (They respawn after few days I think - unless I mixed some farms)

The combat turns easy once you learn the ripostes and such + if it gets hard you can abuse the AI Razz Change the aiming to free aim (press shift / unlock targeting) and swing weapon -> you'll hit a max damage hit every time, and the opponent will not even try to block it Razz (Cheesed a bit at the 'run' quest (after fetching ale +crap for father) -> killed a lot of the cumans and got nice armors and weapons Razz )


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 08:36    Post subject:
@bart5986
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A mod like that is basically a cheat, that's why it's better staying as a mod so you can choose if you want it or not.


1) Yeah, let's discard all the games made from the 1980s to 2017s with manual saving. Dirty cheaters! Laughing

2) No one forces you to save game without potions. Ooh,wait.. you wouldn't be able to resist it, huh? Perhaps it's your subconscious telling you something important Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 10:57    Post subject:
I experienced my first game stopping bug

there is a quest to catch some birds, and if you save after you catch the last one, but before you turn it in - the game hangs in cutscene when you return the quest..

I had killed some bandits and some hunting, returned a quest and saved in the mean time, cba to redo it all over again
now I'm stuck with 6 weight of birds in me until they fix the quest :\


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xGAME007




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 11:01    Post subject:
I want to play this game so badly, but there is still to many bugs for my taste to get it Sad Need to avoid it for next few months, somehow.


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DCB




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 11:04    Post subject:
HubU wrote:
Also, WTF is up with the lighting? I CAN'T SEE SHIT past 22

Use the totally-not-Cat potion that gives you improved nightvision.

Btw, speaking of The Witcher, I found a horse farm that not only had a Roach, but also Binky (death's horse from the Discworld series).
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 11:34    Post subject:
@Bob Barnsen
Quote:
Kingdom Come: Deliverance appears to have been downgraded from its stunning PC beta version


Holy shit.. downgrade is strong with this one! Laughing


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tet666




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 11:58    Post subject:
patch news:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/379430/discussions/0/2860219962097026870/

What a load of bs there is no certification phase for patches on steam at all that's only on consoles so pc clearly has to take the back-seat here Laughing
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xxax
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 12:33    Post subject:
Eeeeh i'm losing interest tbh.

Everything is one long fetch quest. I know most quests in games are fetch quests, but they could at least cut some stuff out.

Most of the time its just go talk to guy, guy doesn't want to help until you do something completely tedious, get information, go report to the other side of the map. Repeat. Then sometimes just to make it a little more tedious, they put in some extra fetch quests. "go talk to prisoner, but first get the key that's on the other side of town, for no reason whatsoever.

I still don't get the combat as well, either the guy you're facing is a complete pussy and you kill him in 1 shots or he's a fucking combat virtuoso, that parries every shot you take, so it takes ages to parry him and slowly work him down. I pulled off a combo like 3 times in the whole game. Funny part is you can just run around shooting them in the face with a bow...
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DCB




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 12:35    Post subject:
A mod that adds Unarmed perks - https://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomcomedeliverance/mods/85

I would think it won't be long before something similar for Bows turns up.
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lametta




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 14:07    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
patch news:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/379430/discussions/0/2860219962097026870/

What a load of bs there is no certification phase for patches on steam at all that's only on consoles so pc clearly has to take the back-seat here Laughing

Well atleast they do some patching. Games like nier automata or nioh are still not properly patched to this date. At least the devs here inform you properly
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 14:16    Post subject:
xxax wrote:
Eeeeh i'm losing interest tbh.

Everything is one long fetch quest. I know most quests in games are fetch quests, but they could at least cut some stuff out.

Most of the time its just go talk to guy, guy doesn't want to help until you do something completely tedious, get information, go report to the other side of the map. Repeat. Then sometimes just to make it a little more tedious, they put in some extra fetch quests. "go talk to prisoner, but first get the key that's on the other side of town, for no reason whatsoever.

I still don't get the combat as well, either the guy you're facing is a complete pussy and you kill him in 1 shots or he's a fucking combat virtuoso, that parries every shot you take, so it takes ages to parry him and slowly work him down. I pulled off a combo like 3 times in the whole game. Funny part is you can just run around shooting them in the face with a bow...


My feelings after initial boner. NPCs are dumb as fuck so you can just run around, block them wherever you want, shoot them in the face. The fetching is teeeedious, especially when you have to look for two bandits in a huge fucking forest or some shit.

It's so tiring that enemies parry and block almost all your hits, it turns into a master block QTE instead of a dynamic combo exchange. Still having a great time though, just wouldn't give this game 9-10/10 overall because of the mechanics.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 14:35    Post subject:
HubU wrote:
Also, WTF is up with the lighting? I CAN'T SEE SHIT past 22. I have a torch lit (420 watchman style), and still, I can't see SHIT one meter in front of me.

The torch isn't good for lighting up at a distance. Other than that, have you checked your monitor for the basics? http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php
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xxax
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 15:43    Post subject:
bloodian wrote:
xxax wrote:
Eeeeh i'm losing interest tbh.

Everything is one long fetch quest. I know most quests in games are fetch quests, but they could at least cut some stuff out.

Most of the time its just go talk to guy, guy doesn't want to help until you do something completely tedious, get information, go report to the other side of the map. Repeat. Then sometimes just to make it a little more tedious, they put in some extra fetch quests. "go talk to prisoner, but first get the key that's on the other side of town, for no reason whatsoever.

I still don't get the combat as well, either the guy you're facing is a complete pussy and you kill him in 1 shots or he's a fucking combat virtuoso, that parries every shot you take, so it takes ages to parry him and slowly work him down. I pulled off a combo like 3 times in the whole game. Funny part is you can just run around shooting them in the face with a bow...


My feelings after initial boner. NPCs are dumb as fuck so you can just run around, block them wherever you want, shoot them in the face. The fetching is teeeedious, especially when you have to look for two bandits in a huge fucking forest or some shit.

It's so tiring that enemies parry and block almost all your hits, it turns into a master block QTE instead of a dynamic combo exchange. Still having a great time though, just wouldn't give this game 9-10/10 overall because of the mechanics.


The two bandits yeah... I found them and then one fought me while the other ran away. So i spent another 30 mins looking for the other asshole because the quest didn't allow me to proceed until both are dead.

Also why the fuck does everyone go to bed at like 8 and wake up at fucking 10!? Never knew that medieval people slept like 12 hours every night.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 15:44    Post subject:
xxax wrote:

Also why the fuck does everyone go to bed at like 8 and wake up at fucking 10!? Never knew that medieval people slept like 12 hours every night.


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 15:53    Post subject:
xxax wrote:
Also why the fuck does everyone go to bed at like 8 and wake up at fucking 10!? Never knew that medieval people slept like 12 hours every night.

That's one thing that annoys me. There are people still asleep at 9am, that's horseshit. They'd all be up at dawn (or earlier for some of them, no doubt). It pisses me off when I'm trying to maximise the use of daylight hours travelling between towns and I have to waste hours waiting around for some lazy fuck to turn up at his shop.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 16:24    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Kingdom Come: Deliverance appears to have been downgraded from its stunning PC beta version

I also found some other screenshots from back then, at how it looked:
Quote:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-deliver-me-from-fantasy.3221/



Okay


holy shit the left picture looks stunning, its literally what the forsts here look like.
Or its a ruse and its a real photo Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 16:31    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Kingdom Come: Deliverance appears to have been downgraded from its stunning PC beta version
Quote:


https://www.dsogaming.com/news/kingdom-come-deliverance-appears-to-have-been-downgraded-from-its-stunning-pc-beta-version/



I also found some other screenshots from back then, at how it looked:
Quote:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kingdom-come-deliverance-deliver-me-from-fantasy.3221/



Okay



Why is this not surprising. The game looks like Crysis 2007.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 16:41    Post subject:
Damn, that's a big ass difference.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 16:42    Post subject:
Is there any advantage to two-handing swords instead of using a shield? My damage stats just go up when I add a shield... Confused


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 16:56    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Kingdom Come: Deliverance appears to have been downgraded from its stunning PC beta version
Okay

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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 16:57    Post subject:
Lock picking made me rage quit ...

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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Feb 2018 17:28    Post subject:
Still haven't found more than 1 lockpick, so I'm save scumming like a mofo Laughing it gets easier at least.

Btw, anyone notice during melee combat that you can change the aiming cursor by pressing tab? Tab apparently adds a circle to the reticle, but I have no idea what it does.. Confused
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