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Nodrim
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 16:46 Post subject: |
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Wow, the differences are pretty stark. I guess it shows the essence of modern game development. Why bother going to all that effort to create verisimilitude when you sell millions of copies regardless?
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Neon
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 16:49 Post subject: |
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I loved Far Cry 2, but damn people have short memories.
Remember malaria? Remember enemy camps respawning after going 500 meters forward? Remember guns jamming?
FC2 was almost universally laughed at because of the above things.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 17:00 Post subject: |
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I kind of wish they'd have done FC2 as the Season Pass bonus over 3. 3 seems more recent and I'm sure more people played it than 2. Could have been a good opportunity to tweak it.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 17:10 Post subject: |
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| Neon wrote: | | I loved Far Cry 2, but damn people have short memories. |
Not necessarily. You can desire certain aspects of FC2 in modern FCs without wanting a carbon copy of it.
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VonMisk
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MannyK
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 18:13 Post subject: |
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| Neon wrote: | I loved Far Cry 2, but damn people have short memories.
Remember malaria? Remember enemy camps respawning after going 500 meters forward? Remember guns jamming?
FC2 was almost universally laughed at because of the above things. |
This.
I remember being more annoyed with this game than being entertained
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 18:24 Post subject: |
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Not being able to shoot through materials is what bugs me a lot in these modern games. Remembering a time when they were going after those kind of things like in the vid to set themselves apart. 
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 18:28 Post subject: |
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FC2 got great detail if you compare it to games from nowadays, but it was the standard from back then. I'd say FC2 was one of the last AAA games that had this level of attention to detail. After that point, the two consoles absolutely exploded, their exclusives were hugely popular, and PC was getting heavily shunned for being a haven for pirates, etc.
Turns out, you don't make money just because you put care into your game. Devs and publishers learned that with CoD being the successful game and Battlefield was the losing game.
But with that said, FC2 was terrible in many other aspects, wasn't exactly great, just like the rest of the series.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 18:34 Post subject: |
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| Neon wrote: | I loved Far Cry 2, but damn people have short memories.
Remember malaria? Remember enemy camps respawning after going 500 meters forward? Remember guns jamming?
FC2 was almost universally laughed at because of the above things. |
yeah, it boggles my mind really. I mean, Far Cry 2 released, people played it and you could hardly find a positive thing about the game. It was pretty much universaly hated. Mostly the above mentioned. I mean, you literally strugled to find someone who had anything good to say about the game. A game that took you from one point of the map to the other for the most half assed mission design imaginable. All in a country where somehow every person was you enemy and you went through the same fucking outposts, fighting the same fucking enemies every time. Then the extremely poorly implemented weapon degradation system, malaria that made you travel vast distances to get your fucking pill, repeating this endlesly.
Far Cry 2 has neat ideas, placed in a pretty shit package. They took ideas from Stalker, obviously in many areas, but lacked GSC's know-how with what to do with them.
Them as years passed, folk started making Far Cry 2 into some cult, misunderstood genius game. Nope
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 18:50 Post subject: |
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| Nodrim wrote: | | https://youtu.be/FCeEvQ68jY8 |
Mostly see it dumbed down for console retarders. |
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 18:51 Post subject: |
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Well, I played the fuck out of FC2 and it has the most visceral combat in any semi-realistic FPS game. When you git gud and you play it like a boss like I did after a while ... then it's a fucking Rambo-simulator, some Hollywood style action with fires, explosions and cars flying over your head, intermixed with jungle-stealth sniping and knifing.
If you play like a soyboy driving like a mongoloid through the same REEEE-spawning checkpoints or using shitty weapons you picked up and whining about them jamming, then yeah it's a shit experience because the story is crap and the missions repetitive.
But have you stealthily infiltrated an enemy fort, blowing heads up with a silenced weapon, taken out the target with your embroidered shotgun for elephant hunting, then blowing up barrels and ammo and spamming grenades to create a distraction, all HELL breaking loose, you running with bullets whizzing and crouch-sliding through holes in walls to get to a handglider and escape into the sunset through a huge canyon? No, you ain' done shit.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 18:57 Post subject: |
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Some of the stuff in the video is meh. The god rays make no sense to always be there. It's an effect for the sake of effect. In nature it only appears when there are particles in the air and so the shadow is seen on those particles. The "heal me by resetting my broken arm or take my tooth out" are such ridiculous animations. Cool, but make no sense. It's like people in Mortal Kombat X continuing to fight after their necks are broken and their balls shattered. 
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 18:58 Post subject: |
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Just to break the hive mind a bit... VGA you sound like a 14 year old.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 19:02 Post subject: |
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No Far Cry 2 definitely was pretty unique, the number of animations for a fps the game had was almost peerless. Plus all the attention to detail, it made for a great atmospheric game about shooting. I think it represented the premise well with its presentation.
The biggest issues were the big picture design decisions, like the plot, the world design, the story, etc. But I felt like I was stuck in Africa as a merc trying to do what I came here to do. The Buddy system on paper made a lot of sense to me, it fit perfectly. It just wasn't executed right.
I can see why people would see it like a cult game. I had a lot of fun playing it, but it was very flawed.
Still my favourite of the FC games however, the new ones are pure Ubishit.
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garus
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 19:53 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 20:47 Post subject: |
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Is there any more incentive to explore this time? Those money crates from earlier games were hardly interesting.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 20:59 Post subject: |
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Far Cry 2 was a load of wasted potential.
I would love to have a Far Cry 2 game but the design (not programming) is by the Kingdom Come designers.
Gustave the Steel
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 21:09 Post subject: |
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I finished Far Cry 2 only a month ago and while it's great otherwise the AI is what makes it so frustrating. Stealth is broken, the enemies have a hate boner for you and are super aggressive and have superhuman aiming across vast distances. Also everything instantly respawns once you're like 150 meters away. Really gets annoying after a while since you constantly get attacked.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 21:20 Post subject: |
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Doubt the point was that FC2 was a good game. 
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 21:39 Post subject: |
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yeah I think the point is that we want to keep FC5 story and missions (kind of) with no regression on the physics, animations, fire propagation and localized body damage that were implemented already in FC2 (and only in FC2 I guess as FC3/4 were already a step back on these aspects).
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Apr 2018 21:52 Post subject: |
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I would say give it to me but since that wont work anyways i guess... Congrats
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