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tonizito
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Why so mean, sniffty? 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Frant
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| Posted: Tue, 8th May 2018 19:38 Post subject: |
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Perhaps I can get a second hand 1070 for a good price when the 11x0-series has arrived.
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| Posted: Tue, 8th May 2018 20:56 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | Perhaps I can get a second hand 1070 for a good price when the 11x0-series has arrived. |
Prices are still higher than when those cards launched but they came down to a "reasonable" level finally.
I mean, I would pay more for 1060 than I did at the end of 2016 and it should not be this way especially in 4k era where 1080 is a MUST....
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| Posted: Tue, 8th May 2018 21:13 Post subject: |
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You don't need a 1080 for 4K when you lock your fps to 24 and enable motion blur.
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Nui
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| Posted: Tue, 8th May 2018 21:21 Post subject: |
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You probably dont need 4k either if use some sharpening filter. Actually, its likely far too exhausting for the human eye at those blistering 24fps anyway.
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Its the newest shit what you can get in the gaming laptop low end right now, new stuff comes when nvidia releases their volta chips and their mobile variants. Are you sure tho you want to spend 1000 euro on a low end gaming laptop?? If so, i would check out AMD ryzen laptops, they are very nice for the price, and have so much better CPU than same priced laptops that has Intel CPU (mobile i5).
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| Posted: Thu, 17th May 2018 00:51 Post subject: |
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I could go for a 4k display but I am not going to change my gtx 1060 anytime soon.
I've also got it almost 2 years ago and the future looks bleak. It is now still more expensive.
When I've bought 1060 for 1080p, I was kinda expecting that I could get 1260 in 2 years or 1360 in 3 years for the same price that I've paid for new 1060... meanwhile it's been 2 years, my card is more expensive and we don't even have 1160 let alone 1360.
So 4k is till walled behind gtx 1080 or 1080ti...
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tonizito
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tonizito
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https://seekingalpha.com/article/4182662-nvidia-appears-gpu-inventory-problem
| Quote: | Too Much of It - Nvidia has overestimated pent-up gaming demand and underestimated the impact of declining mining demand.
How badly have they miscalculated? - Enough to have to agree to take back 300k GPUs from a 'top 3' Taiwan OEM. This is quite notable news as Nvidia usually exerts massive influence over its partners and can be quite ruthless with allocations of new GPUs if partners step out of line. The fact that this partner returned these GPUs says a lot about the current state of supply in the channel. The report also cites Nvidia aggressively buying GDDR5 as evidence that they now have an excess stock of lower-end GPUs that need to be made into boards as well as other insiders/sources citing an inventory buildup.
When you factor in manufacturing lead times at TSM and the current supply on hand, Nvidia really has no choice but to wait if they want to avoid expensive price protection payouts. |
Rebranded cards soon, mens? 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Jun 2018 12:52 Post subject: |
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Titan Pro, Titan X, Titan SE
I guess they have it covered, 1075, 1075Ti perhaps too or just using the same name and less memory like the 1060 and 1060 but 3 GB less and a bit slower too.
Nothing new I suppose for either AMD or NVIDIA.
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Jun 2018 13:11 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | https://seekingalpha.com/article/4182662-nvidia-appears-gpu-inventory-problem
| Quote: | Too Much of It - Nvidia has overestimated pent-up gaming demand and underestimated the impact of declining mining demand.
How badly have they miscalculated? - Enough to have to agree to take back 300k GPUs from a 'top 3' Taiwan OEM. This is quite notable news as Nvidia usually exerts massive influence over its partners and can be quite ruthless with allocations of new GPUs if partners step out of line. The fact that this partner returned these GPUs says a lot about the current state of supply in the channel. The report also cites Nvidia aggressively buying GDDR5 as evidence that they now have an excess stock of lower-end GPUs that need to be made into boards as well as other insiders/sources citing an inventory buildup.
When you factor in manufacturing lead times at TSM and the current supply on hand, Nvidia really has no choice but to wait if they want to avoid expensive price protection payouts. |
Rebranded cards soon, mens? |
Meh!
Let's wait for something new and refreshing. If only AMD could do something to NVIDIA as they are doing now to Intel. Current situation is boring as fuck. :/
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Jun 2018 13:14 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Jun 2018 16:45 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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couleur
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Jun 2018 17:31 Post subject: |
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I just updated my htpc 7950 to a 1060 3gb MSI with two fans and zero fan I got for 170€ secondhand. Still to expensive and the 3 gb hurt, but good enough for playing most stuff on the TV.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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" developers are at least smart enough to not increase demands on hardware"
thats a load of balony ur telling urself. Devs engines and needs are set 3-5 years in advance, nobody gives a fuck about hw prices. Nobody can increase their demands cause of xbone and ps4 limitations, u wont see fancy new shit untill next gen consoles ... that has been the pc gamers curse for the last decase now and u just now next gen consoles will only feature 30 fps 4k meaning thats the baseline what we will be stuck at for the next 10 y
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ixigia
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| red_avatar wrote: | | On the up side, developers are at least smart enough to not increase demands on hardware because they know most people can't afford it. My GTX 970 still plays nearly all modern games at high detail at 1440p. Even my CPU is now 5 years old and I still don't notice ANY reason to upgrade. My workstation at work has a CPU that's 50% faster and I barely notice any difference. |
Indeed, on one hand this technological stagnation is unfortunate and melancholic, on the other one there's the perspective where we can still roll with veteran cards without any particular problems (at reasonable settings of course  ). To be fair though, we should be thanking consoles more |
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1 and 2 are still amazing. |
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| PickupArtist wrote: | " developers are at least smart enough to not increase demands on hardware"
thats a load of balony ur telling urself. Devs engines and needs are set 3-5 years in advance, nobody gives a fuck about hw prices. Nobody can increase their demands cause of xbone and ps4 limitations, u wont see fancy new shit untill next gen consoles ... that has been the pc gamers curse for the last decase now and u just now next gen consoles will only feature 30 fps 4k meaning thats the baseline what we will be stuck at for the next 10 y |
But the Xbox and PS4 DID get updates remember? They were just SMALL updates because hardware just hasn't advanced much. It's only morons like Roberts Space Industries that started creating a very demanding game, expecting massive hardware increases when the trend was clearly a slowing down.
But, I think most people prefer a slower evolution. I still vividly recall the early 90's, when hardware was moving at such a fast pace that a PC would only last 2 years before being hopelessly outdated. My 486, bought in mid-1995, couldn't even properly run Duke Nukem 3D which was released in early 1996. And my 166 MMX that I bought in mid 1997? In 1998 Unreal was released and even with a Voodoo 2, it was barely playable.
Seriously, I much prefer the current slow creep over the VERY expensive 90's. BUT, I do expect prices to come down considering hardware is barely improving. It makes no sense that we pay top dollar for a tiny 10% increase.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jun 2018 10:16 Post subject: |
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| red_avatar wrote: | | PickupArtist wrote: | " developers are at least smart enough to not increase demands on hardware"
thats a load of balony ur telling urself. Devs engines and needs are set 3-5 years in advance, nobody gives a fuck about hw prices. Nobody can increase their demands cause of xbone and ps4 limitations, u wont see fancy new shit untill next gen consoles ... that has been the pc gamers curse for the last decase now and u just now next gen consoles will only feature 30 fps 4k meaning thats the baseline what we will be stuck at for the next 10 y |
But the Xbox and PS4 DID get updates remember? They were just SMALL updates because hardware just hasn't advanced much. It's only morons like Roberts Space Industries that started creating a very demanding game, expecting massive hardware increases when the trend was clearly a slowing down.
But, I think most people prefer a slower evolution. I still vividly recall the early 90's, when hardware was moving at such a fast pace that a PC would only last 2 years before being hopelessly outdated. My 486, bought in mid-1995, couldn't even properly run Duke Nukem 3D which was released in early 1996. And my 166 MMX that I bought in mid 1997? In 1998 Unreal was released and even with a Voodoo 2, it was barely playable.
Seriously, I much prefer the current slow creep over the VERY expensive 90's. BUT, I do expect prices to come down considering hardware is barely improving. It makes no sense that we pay top dollar for a tiny 10% increase. |
But can your current PC run 2007's Crysis?
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JBeckman
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Actually using Crysis as a example and going from recent videos testing the game on a high-end system using fairly recent parts.
From those results all levels aside from the one they cut from the console re-release should work, that aircraft map really highlights the one glaring weakness of Cry-Engine 1 by hammering the CPU to hell.
And the game being primarily single threaded and maybe offloading a bit of data to a secondary core well that's going to be a pain.
Particularly since the 5+ Ghz clock speed race didn't really work out and they had to work with multi threading instead. (And now almost 12+ years later we're hitting 5 Ghz a bit more reliably though 4.1 - 4.5 is more common and lower depending on core count.)
And then comes games such as Assassin's Creed Origins giving zero fucks about your CPU and doing the opposite and requiring a hexa core CPU minimally and ideally a octa core.
Since the game creates 8 threads regardless of the users CPU capabilities so quad cores are going to find themselves pretty bottlenecked as a result and hexa well it works but it's not optimal.
(The game does scale above octa core but it doesn't scale very well below this requirement.)
And on that note that probably blows a bit of ass for AMD because they kinda don't really function very well with these deferred render contexts, at all.
https://community.amd.com/thread/224659
They do support multi threaded rendering and of course Vulkan and DX12 but D3D11 and deferred contexts seems to be a bit, nope.
Possibly, I'm no expert and them working around it and having other methods probably helps but it doesn't do much for the already higher than NVIDIA's D3D11 CPU overhead.
(Though Origins does OK on AMD GPU's as long as you have a strong CPU to avoid bottlenecks with how many cores it tries to use even outside of these contexts.)
EDIT: But yeah that's one of the chief improvements in Cry-Engine 3 and on being able to scale across more cores.
Metro compared to STALKER also does the same, I believe it was the same engine lead programmer for the two games although Metro on 4A does not really use X-Ray other than probably having learned from the development of that game and it's two sequels using improved versions of the engine.
(Though Pripyat has issues with DX11 and even that isn't that multi threaded.)
And yeah it's a bit of a meme and all, it was a good benchmark for a few years too but then the focus shifted and well the game still is really CPU bound even if current GPU's can deliver far more than the game requires to run fluidly.
EDIT: Dunia, Anvil and a few others follow similar upgrades too, Game Bryo/NetImmerse and Creation as Bethesda eventually settled on probably does much the same but unlike other game engines it probably retains a lot of legacy stuff but it's gradually being phased out or replaced.
(Although Fallout 4 still had a ton of remnants in the settings file and game code.)
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