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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Nov 2018 10:10    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Nov 2018 14:02    Post subject:
Very expensive AI driven Space Invaders simulator.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Nov 2018 08:54    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Nov 2018 21:41    Post subject:
Navi could still be more of a mid range card and it might use the cores differently, there are some difference in performance but it's pretty clear from testing that the difference between Vega 56 and Vega 64 is pretty low due to the inefficiencies in keeping these cores all active and loaded up which also goes back to the Fury GPU before Vega. Smile
(Vega 64 at stock has higher clocks which helps a bit though.)

I think the 580 uses 36 or somewhere around there and that GPU eventually exceeded the Fury in several titles because the card had problems with effectiveness so number of cores alone isn't a decisive factor although if the GCN arch was to be overhauled more thoroughly then many of these limits could be done away with moving the bottleneck from the front end and from rasterization and geometry work. Smile
(And more, I've been reading up on GCN and the Fury and Vega in particular but there's still a lot of things that I'm not too clear about though I suppose that's only a given with how complex these are.)

If Vega20 is running on the rumored 1800 Mhz then hitting 2 Ghz at 7nm and either using GDDR6 or HBM2 with a newer design revision should also help with performance more than just using the full 64 clusters at 4096 cores.
Though Vega also shows ineffectiveness in overclocking these cards where a 30% memory OC together with a 15% core clock increase sees a performance gain of....4 - 6% or thereabouts and a power draw now above 300w for the GPU core itself.

One reason why undervolting these are popular, little to no performance loss but power draw goes down to 160 to 180w for the GPU core and around 200 - 220w overall for the card in entirety.


GCN was good and 1.1 with the 200 series had some solid improvements but it's mostly been smaller tweaks with Polaris and then Vega starting to really push forward though still not as big of a incremental performance as NVIDIA delivered up until Turing.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Nov 2018 18:26    Post subject:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Battlefield_V_RTX_DXR_Raytracing/4.html


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Nov 2018 18:31    Post subject:
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"DirectX 12, a rendering mode that experiences some stuttering in Battlefield 5, something that was present even in BF1, and that the developer has been unable to completely fix."


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Nov 2018 19:39    Post subject:
buy the 2080ti pyromaniac edition today :- https://hardforum.com/threads/evga-2080-ti-xc-catches-fire-in-spectacular-fashion.1971659/


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Nov 2018 14:44    Post subject:
NVIDIA has acknowledged issues with the GPU's at least so that might help expedite replacements whatever the core issue behind these will turn out to be. Catching fire is quite a thing though, wonder what popped to make that happen. (VRM?)
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Nov 2018 18:20    Post subject:
so my gtx 1060 6gb is still not horrible? not bad


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Nov 2018 18:49    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
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Ordered a 2080 tonight to replace the 1080, this is the least confident I have ever felt in a GPU purchase Sad



At least tou can enjoy some RTX games.


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Nov 2018 19:15    Post subject:
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so my gtx 1060 6gb is still not horrible? not bad


oi, you little Crocker...
Ive got a gtx670 and it still aint terrible...

*of course it depends on the games you play...

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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Nov 2018 19:51    Post subject:
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You can send some money my way my majesty Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Nov 2018 23:57    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
I missed a good deal today.

https://www.mydealz.de/deals/asus-rog-strix-vega-64-8gb-hbm2-1266915

Vega 64 for 360€ down from 500€.

It was already too late when I read the news tho. Sad

EDIT: I need emotional support from Couleur now. Pls hold me tight. Crying or Very sad


The nitro is the better card though. So wait until that one gets the cheap treatement. Or just buy the 2080Ti already and prepare for GIGARAYS!


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Nov 2018 23:59    Post subject:
Battlefield V Ray Tracing Tested, So Is Nvidia RTX Worth It?


"We’d be bitterly disappointed if we bought an RTX 2070 for ray tracing, only to be left with that sort of performance."
The RTX 2070 can barely do 30 FPS at 1080p with DXR reflections set to low in BF! Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Nov 2018 14:14    Post subject:
Well what do you know, my predictions came true Laughing Why do you think Nvidia was so tight lipped about the performance hit?

The RTX series is a joke - that much is clear now. It's Hairworks all over as predicted. I'm glad I got my 1070 Ti in time because with the 1080 no longer being produced and is getting very expensive so the 1070 Ti will be the next card to go up in price.
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Nov 2018 15:06    Post subject:
Apparently they are sitting on top of 1080ies that they dont want to sell cheap, so they are cutting them down to 1060ies with GDDR5X.

They want people to buy their 2070ies instead.


I still think partial Raytracing is an interesting tech thats in its babyshoes right now. Its just that Nvida beeing Nvidia has managed to be to greedy about it so that its irrelevant as long as its only available to the overpriced tier cards.


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