Anthem (new game by BioWere) [Early Access]
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 14:20    Post subject:
freiwald wrote:
Rage wrote:
I'm getting tired of this, sorry guys, i'm done.

i talked to two other people yesterday on my steam friend list because of free anthem keys and both of them left this forum because of guys like those.
don't let them get to you Smile we are nerds too but we know we are better then those bitter nerds.


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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 17:15    Post subject:
Oh did he, didnt even notice ^^ Makes it a much more pleasent place to be now ^^


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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 17:24    Post subject:
freiwald wrote:
Rage wrote:
I'm getting tired of this, sorry guys, i'm done.

i talked to two other people yesterday on my steam friend list because of free anthem keys and both of them left this forum because of guys like those.
don't let them get to you Smile we are nerds too but we know we are better then those bitter nerds.

you know they could just say this game is shit for whatever reason (in your opinion) and don't play it and done but no they come in here then all day for a reason, because they are on a mission killing every franchise and publisher they don't like. be it because of feminism stuff, publishers like ea in general, or because it's not a 1000 hours single player game with a crappy dragon story.
so they try to talk down on everyone so they don't buy it but you guys are smarter then this.

play and buy what you want and don't get fooled by scum like this.



scum?
If not for people like us every single game would have microtransactions not our fault that your standards are low and you like to get scammed or forced an agenda upon you through a medium that should be just there to entertain you.


Fallout 76, Metal Gear Survive etc perfect games for you keep playing Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 17:51    Post subject:
The thing is, there's a huge, huuuuuge difererence between shit like F76 or MGS:S and Anthem. BioWare's game has its faults, some of them seem quite big, but grouping it with titles like these just makes the whole point someone tries to make moot. Ever heard of the boy who cried wolf? If you call everything the same kind of shit, you're making more harm than good, because when something fucked up really does happen in the industry (vide Battlefront 2 or F76), it'll be that much harder to get the "NO! STAY RIGHT THERE!" message through. There's criticism and then there's exaggeration. It's good to know the difference. I also really don't get this 0-1, "with-me-or-against-me" mentality that's sometimes seen here. You can enjoy a game even though you see its flaws. Nothing wrong with that.
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 19:38    Post subject:
Aquma wrote:
... There's criticism and then there's exaggeration. It's good to know the difference. I also really don't get this 0-1, "with-me-or-against-me" mentality that's sometimes seen here. You can enjoy a game even though you see its flaws. Nothing wrong with that.


+1. But it's been here for ages, this mentality you mention. I still remember how much hate DA2 got when it came out all those years ago. I actually enjoyed the game in spite of its flaws, but man it was really hard to have a constructive discussion about it here.
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 20:00    Post subject:
Aquma wrote:
The thing is, there's a huge, huuuuuge difererence between shit like F76 or MGS:S and Anthem. BioWare's game has its faults, some of them seem quite big, but grouping it with titles like these just makes the whole point someone tries to make moot. Ever heard of the boy who cried wolf? If you call everything the same kind of shit, you're making more harm than good, because when something fucked up really does happen in the industry (vide Battlefront 2 or F76), it'll be that much harder to get the "NO! STAY RIGHT THERE!" message through. There's criticism and then there's exaggeration. It's good to know the difference. I also really don't get this 0-1, "with-me-or-against-me" mentality that's sometimes seen here. You can enjoy a game even though you see its flaws. Nothing wrong with that.


Dont know what you are getting at.

EA shits out crap games and especially the mp ones are lootbox/microtransaction shitstorms.
Me having low expectations of a company like EA shouldnt be something surprising.

Bethesda=Money Greedy fucks who sacrifice the quality of their product for monetization.
EA=Money Greedy fucks that sacrifice the quality of their products for monetization.

How dare I compare both of them.

Anthem has shiny gfx going for it but what else?

What does it offer other games don't? lke warframe or destiny 2?

It is just another mp game that will have high user numbers at the first month and then drop off. And that is the issue as long as mindless consumers keep buyinng they will keep crapping them out.
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 20:17    Post subject:
But the people who like these kind of games, they want to have a new and fresh game to play every once and then. You saying "What does it offer other games don't? lke warframe or destiny 2?", that's an argument that could be applied to virtually every new game in an established genre. Anthem is certainly not a 1:1 copy of these games with new assets - it has a new story, some new mechanics etc.

Basically, shitting on a game simply because one doesn't like the genre is kind of cheap.
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 21:01    Post subject:
https://twitter.com/devolverdigital/status/1090893011482017792

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Prandur




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 21:13    Post subject:
Am I reading this right? Are they basically saying that people can pay extra ("Access Premiere"?) to start playing the full game one week early?

If that's true then that's a pretty shitty move, PR-wise at least. It basically means you don't get a level playing field unless you overpay.
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 21:19    Post subject:
You are reading this wrong then.

Origin Premiere gives you the full game ( legion of dawn edition ) as long as you are subscribed. If people are retarded enough to buy the game and get premiere then its their fault tbh. It explains it pretty well on the origin page what you get with premier.


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Prandur




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 21:39    Post subject:
My point wasn't at all about whether you have to buy the game *in addition* to having their premiere subscription. My point/question was about whether the subscription allows access to the full game one week before the official release - meaning that anyone buying the game without the subscription is basically one week behind in terms of progress.
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lametta




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 21:46    Post subject:
KillaSeven wrote:
You are reading this wrong then.

Origin Premiere gives you the full game ( legion of dawn edition ) as long as you are subscribed. If people are retarded enough to buy the game and get premiere then its their fault tbh. It explains it pretty well on the origin page what you get with premier.



Dunno what chart you are checking but according to the twitter link Prandur is reading it right.

Prandur wrote:
But the people who like these kind of games, they want to have a new and fresh game to play every once and then. You saying "What does it offer other games don't? lke warframe or destiny 2?", that's an argument that could be applied to virtually every new game in an established genre. Anthem is certainly not a 1:1 copy of these games with new assets - it has a new story, some new mechanics etc.

Basically, shitting on a game simply because one doesn't like the genre is kind of cheap.


I could go on and on and tell you that fifa is always the same game as well as battlefield etc and that they only doing a carbon copy of some mp coop game with anthem.A Formulaic game basically to have an excuse to print money.

EA is where Inovation goes to die, evident from all the companies EA killed off and all the news we are reading how they snuff out creative projects (sp star wars games) and killing off so many franchises.

As long as lootboxes and shitty practices of companies get accepted and they do profit off of low effort games it will stay the same.

I read that anthem does offer little endgame content, as did destiny 2 as did division at first. Now it might be better for one or the other game but bringing out half assed products without content "hollow games" where they add content later with milking you for money like destiny 2 did with it's add on.

I'm not sure why I even have to explain this.
There are certain companies that do the same crap over and over again and people still have the audacity to defend them.
If you wanna play anthem no one is going to lynch you, but dont get upset at people who see the shitstorm at the horizon of companies who do the same crap over and over again.

While we were arguing the above twitter picture example happened "what a surprise"

EDIT: https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/01/25/anthem-stronghold-missions-launch/#/slide/1
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 22:25    Post subject:
@freiwald perhaps take friends advice and move over to ign boards?
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 22:25    Post subject:
The chart shows that you get the full game with premiere
, as long as you stay subscribed you have the game. Was the same with bf5, also gave you early access. I dont see the problem there since its pve only anyway.


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lametta




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 22:38    Post subject:
KillaSeven wrote:
The chart shows that you get the full game with premiere
, as long as you stay subscribed you have the game. Was the same with bf5, also gave you early access. I dont see the problem there since its pve only anyway.


So someone who buys the deluxe or standard edition gets the game 7 days later compared with a person who just has a origin access premiere sub and thats totally fine for you?
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Prandur




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jan 2019 22:58    Post subject:
It's PvE but also mostly online (a mmo-like, if you will). There are bragging rights associated with being the first to complete certain PvE content, no? At least in WoW and D3 that was always the case Smile But if they don't have the same starting date, that completely destroys the playing field.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2019 00:03    Post subject:
lametta wrote:
KillaSeven wrote:
The chart shows that you get the full game with premiere
, as long as you stay subscribed you have the game. Was the same with bf5, also gave you early access. I dont see the problem there since its pve only anyway.


So someone who buys the deluxe or standard edition gets the game 7 days later compared with a person who just has a origin access premiere sub and thats totally fine for you?


Yup, I dont really care about stuff like that. Its one thing to complain, but if you are so against it why not just say "fuck this game" and move on? Not like I'm defending EA or Anthem or anything, but tbh I'm just really over all those discussions that lead to nothing but one side kissing anthems ass and the other side hoping for EA and bioware to fucking end themself.


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2019 00:20    Post subject:
I do, still retarded when I see the back and forth here. Maybe I'm getting too old for this shit Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2019 01:02    Post subject:
KillaSeven wrote:
You are reading this wrong then.

Origin Premiere gives you the full game ( legion of dawn edition ) as long as you are subscribed. If people are retarded enough to buy the game and get premiere then its their fault tbh. It explains it pretty well on the origin page what you get with premier.


Why would you even buy the game?

Its garbage with a few redeeming qualities if you play with your friends.

Buy a month of premier, play it until everyone realises its garbage and the novelty of pretty graphics wears off and then move on.

Chances are people will be sick of the game before the people who actually purchased it get to play! Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2019 01:08    Post subject:
bart5986 wrote:
KillaSeven wrote:
You are reading this wrong then.

Origin Premiere gives you the full game ( legion of dawn edition ) as long as you are subscribed. If people are retarded enough to buy the game and get premiere then its their fault tbh. It explains it pretty well on the origin page what you get with premier.


Why would you even buy the game?

Its garbage with a few redeeming qualities if you play with your friends.

Buy a month of premier, play it until everyone realises its garbage and the novelty of pretty graphics wears off and then move on.

Chances are people will be sick of the game before the people who actually purchased it get to play! Laughing


Exactly, thats what I meant. Same with bf5, dont spend fucking 50 euro just buy premier for one month and all is good, its unlikely u will keep playing any of these games longer than a month tbh


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2019 09:38    Post subject:
It's all about opinions and taste.

It's hard for someone who likes/dislikes something, to understand how someone else possibly couldn't like/dislike something.

But that's how we function. So get over it Smile Also, me (not) liking something, doesn't make me or you anymore right or wrong for (not) doing so Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2019 10:41    Post subject:
7 hrs 18 mins until open demo starts ... in Australia Cool
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2019 11:59    Post subject:
Looking forward to the demo, the VIP-demo was misleading and I didn't actually get to try it last week. On the other hand, I'm glad I didn't have to put up with the connection issues and crashes and hope it works better this weekend.

If they added proper super ultrawide support for this game (32:9) then I'll "premiere" this game until TD2 is out.
As far as the discussion on the head start is concerned... Yeah, that's pretty fucked up. It's one thing to do a headstart but it should also be included in the purchase edition and not be exclusive to a subscription model. That's just pure greed, those who want to buy the game to "own" it, they are forced to spend 15 bucks if they want the head starts and that's not ok!
I would have gone for the big edition but with all this BS I rather just spend 15-30 EUR for 1-2 months of subscription and move on. Their loss...


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2019 16:57    Post subject:
Demo is live Smile
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no thx
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2019 18:39    Post subject:
So consolized this game (menus, map control, and especially flying). Uninstalled, moving on...


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Feb 2019 19:21    Post subject:
spajdr wrote:
Demo is live Smile


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