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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2019 17:44    Post subject:
Well they've done the Ezio trilogy though more of a simpler graphical update and then there's Rogue (Both of these console only.) with similar changes though they also added temporal AA and replaced the water with a better reflective effect from what I remember.

Now there's AC3 as a more thorough overhaul with visuals including things like textures and lighting and such plus Liberation which I guess gets...fuck all of that aside from maybe higher res support but we'll see.

Black Flag next? It still holds up pretty well on PC though and it's not as dull with the actual gameplay either although it has similar flaws to AC3 when you are off the actual ship.


Guessing we'll not see much for Anvil Next with Unity and Syndicate since these hold up better visually even if gameplay is also quite divisive and they do have that Ubi-Collectible thing going for them. (And a few remaining bugs and glitches.)


EDIT: Was that the Ezio trio or just AC2? Might just have been the second game on it's own actually.

First game could do with a gameplay overhaul too but we'll see what happens for Asassin's Creed Italia and Pax Romana or maybe not quite Pax depending on where during the imperium time-line this takes place.

It sort-of works but the whole "THREE TRIALS!" before you can have happy fun private stabby time with the big boy main target gets a bit silly.
(And now for the leper race!)
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2019 17:49    Post subject:
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I cannot wait to replay ACIII and Liberation, said no one ever Failed Troll
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well dont underestimate muricans Wink
Also iirc it was one of the best selling parts


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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Feb 2019 23:22    Post subject:
AC3 is one of the best in the series, but I'll let the popular WRONG opinion slide... The problems it had were more to do with the general AC stagnation.

Just watched that trailer and there is indeed a straight up piss filter over everything. What the fuck.


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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Feb 2019 13:57    Post subject:
DarkRohirrim wrote:
AC3 is one of the best in the series
Actually agree
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Feb 2019 18:35    Post subject:
Some images, first one isn't too bad but then the yellow tone mapping or color correction or what's going on just takes over a bit and then the snow image and cityscape looks pretty good before oh look more yellow.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/assassin%E2%80%99s-creed-iii-remastered-comparison-trailer.98055/page-6#post-17664306


Probably trying to get the material system and making a difference with the original games fairly uniform and flat shading (Black Flag would improve on this.) but the color correction and tinting and how it uniformly affects materials from the environment to the character clothing to the very skin and just everything is not a personal favorite even if "WOW POST PROCESSING!" might be a factor and even if the lighting overall is more advanced.
(And here's the fog again.)
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Mar 2019 19:44    Post subject:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/assassins-creed-iii-remastered-gameplay-changes-detailed-ui-stealth-and-switch-version-info.105137/

https://assassinscreed.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news-updates/345531/this-month-in-assassins-creed-odyssey-march-2019-update

Quote:

In addition to the technical upgrades, the remaster will also include new gameplay improvements, thanks to community feedback shared from the release of the original game.

The game UI (user interface) has undergone a big makeover to better align with today's standards (such as including color-blind settings to help spot enemies in the Mini Map) to deliver a more enjoyable player experience!

The in-game economy has been revamped to be easily visible and offer added benefits, such as additional weapons for crafting.

New stealth features are also included in the Remaster, as well as the ability to hide in bushes, call enemies over with a whistle, and perform double assassinations, creating a better balance between action and stealth.

And, of course, we can't forget the new Legacy Outfits that will pay homage to other notable Assassins, such as Alexios, Bayek and Aguilar!

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Mar 2019 02:08    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Mar 2019 10:01    Post subject:
Poor man's RDR2 on PC Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Mar 2019 10:47    Post subject:
Don't know why anyone would replay ACIII let alone buy the remastered edition. This and Liberation were among the worst AC games.


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Mar 2019 10:49    Post subject:
I got it for free for my ac:o purchase it seems Confused


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Mar 2019 10:55    Post subject:
Rage wrote:
I got it for free for my ac:o purchase it seems Confused


You get if you own the season pass / gold edition. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Mar 2019 22:49    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Assassins.Creed.III.Remastered.MULTi2-x.X.RIDDICK.X.x


Thought it wasn't out until the 29th?
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Mar 2019 23:04    Post subject:
was unlocked earlier by mistake for AssOdyssey gold prehurrdurrers


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Mar 2019 00:54    Post subject:
Ah. Wonder if it's unlocked on Xbox where I own it. One way to find out I guess.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Mar 2019 07:24    Post subject:
If you're going to ram physically based lighting into the game make sure the assets and pipeline for it are optimized for this.

https://twitter.com/TheEld2/status/1110916492806238209

https://twitter.com/TheEld2/status/1110927197441847302

https://twitter.com/TheEld2/status/1110921038706208768

https://twitter.com/TheEld2/status/1110919212648796160

There does also seem to be a "bug" on the console versions where the higher-poly cutscene assets aren't loaded in fully immediately but the lighting and such should still be unchanged even if the character model might be lacking some polygons for a few seconds. Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Mar 2019 08:19    Post subject:
Nice ""upgrade"" Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Mar 2019 11:15    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Destitute, blind, aids ridden man's RDR2 on PC


That's more like it Very Happy Laughing

Laughing @ those comparison shots, most commenters think the original version is the remastered one, what an utter failure Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Mar 2019 12:32    Post subject:
remaster for ps2 Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Mar 2019 12:43    Post subject:
wasnt there supposed to be soem gameplay changes aswell for both liberation and III?


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Mar 2019 18:13    Post subject:
There are a few of them.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/assassins-creed-iii-remastered-ot-watering-the-tree-of-liberty-in-4k.107983/





EDIT: And more comparisons.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/assassins-creed-iii-remastered-ot-watering-the-tree-of-liberty-in-4k.107983/page-3#post-19310164







It does certainly look clean though.


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Mar 2019 18:15    Post subject:
never picked up the DLC for 3 so I can run through that. Although Steam reviewers said it was crap.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Mar 2019 19:14    Post subject:
Haha , Oh ubisoft.. how nice to give us Assassin's Creed 3 Un-mastered Edition


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Mar 2019 21:30    Post subject:
Yeah I need to see more of the game but the new light and shadow implementation doesn't go very well with the original games aesthetics without further mastering of the assets. (Properly set up a PBR pipeline and work over the game instead of this near fullbright way of how the materials end up looking I'm thinking.)

I am also very curious about animations, prior to Black Flag the games lead animator was a very talented and very skilled person (Naught Dog now I think from what I read is where he ended up after leaving Ubisoft.) which particularly for the combat animations it really shows even if the combat mechanics themselves for these early games is very divisive in what people think about them. Smile

They could just be using them as - is though we'll see.

PC version of AC3 also holds up really well still, doesn't have the improvements brought into Black Flag for this version of Anvil particularly the continued NVIDIA partnership and features but the only major issue for someone who started with the later entries is likely the way the controls are using it like a puppeteer system but even then it was also updated over how the first games handled this.


Beyond NVIDIA's implementation of the updates to volumetric light shadows, shadows via PCSS and TXAA there were also tweaks to how water worked and dynamic weather and the global illumination was improved and AI wise automatic dynamic nav meshes though that was particularly for the ship to ship combat and how this works when boarding.


LOD issues with PS4 (Both consoles?) version aside it's clear lighting and shadows have some problems, part of the game looks good but it appears much brighter and that kinda looks, terrible.
(It also highlights a lack of object shadows and ambient occlusion like those table props clearly indicate.)

We'll see tomorrow I suppose when the PC version comes online but I expect the new lighting implementation to be similarly blown out though a better comparison can be made.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Mar 2019 21:35    Post subject:
I also need to revise my opinion of Connor now some years later, naive and young and well hot headed or maybe optimistic though it's been years so I might not be remembering everything quite in full detail, been on my mind to replay the series at some point but the existing backlog and the respective downsides of the various installments have been a thing so maybe eventually. (Rash perhaps but not some total idiot or fool though some decisions do have consequences and a few things turned into memes down the line.)

Unity and Syndicate going all out with collectibles and padding are a big one, combo based combat system although I suppose counter-killing everything is somewhat avoided and the mission design was gradually loosened up so creative players weren't immediately failed for tailing or stealthily working towards the mission target any other way than the game intended.

Liked the combat system of Assassin's Creed 1 too although the "Three trials!" before the assassination itself grew tiresome and now I also know the combat system was intended more as a way to wear down and overcome enemies and then the killing blow though hidden blade countering becomes a thing with some practice, later games would have more impact but also just wailing on the enemy until he's felled though the takedowns got more elaborate and brutal in turn as a sort of reward for players heh.


Change in creative director also threw things around and side games and media would throw the overarching story into a messy situation even having major prior plot threads resolved via these though Ubisoft might be changing things around a bit with Layla here, guess it'll be clear when Legion comes out and this arc is ended.



EDIT: GAAS and the role-playing elements are a thing now, kinda divided on what to think on these but we'll see where it ends I guess. Ubisoft seems to really like them for their games now.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Mar 2019 23:17    Post subject:
briangw wrote:
never picked up the DLC for 3 so I can run through that. Although Steam reviewers said it was crap.

The fuck?! It's actually really cool, play it!


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Mar 2019 01:49    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:

EDIT: And more comparisons.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/assassins-creed-iii-remastered-ot-watering-the-tree-of-liberty-in-4k.107983/page-3#post-19310164


Does the game have weather cycles? in one scene it's sunny and they are comparing it to a more atmospheric grey/foggy weather it seems. Or they decided to just make the game sunny and bright instead.

I think it's often the case with these remasters that they manage to ruin the atmosphere, wasn't it the same with the Batman remasters...?
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