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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Mar 2019 16:45 Post subject: |
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In preparation for the trains, I started paving everything between my factories, to create a little city  It's nice that foundations can overlap, to fill the gaps. If large enough, I could even try to get some cars driving around aimlessly, not to feel alone 
With the caterium branch suddenly unlocked, my walled up factories couldn't really upgrade any more, and I didn't want to reconfigure everything either (everything should be at least 80% efficient now  )
So I started specializing a bit, with smaller stuff between. Everything is going to get walled up, of course, so in the end it's going to be conveyor heaven. 
(or hell  )
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
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dethy
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Mar 2019 17:52 Post subject: |
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I have a starter factory that's still pretty much spaghetti belts all over the place. Then created a manufacturing hub that assembles everything from parts delivered. Near one pure coal node, I have setup a power generation system using coal. I have another small factory connected via a skybridge thats iron/coal/cement to make steel pipes, beams, etc and transport those over to my manufacturing hub. I have an oil producing factory setup on islands connected via skybridge and transport plastics, rubber and oil over to hub. In the hub, I decided to make oil power plants too hence the oil transport. And two caterium nodes now that each produces quickwire and transported to hub.
Mk4 belts are very fast to transport stuff great distances.
My next project is to run sky bridges and connect all the biomes before next update in preparation for future production. I just completed my supercomputer production so everything is automated and stored in storages. I got mostly mk3 belts and some mk4 belts. Need to start upgrading those to to make them faster lol.
BTW, I'm using mk4 belts with a jetpack as a launch pad to go between locations really fast.
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deelix
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Mar 2019 17:56 Post subject: |
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Damn, im addicted to this game. Played it non stop for almost 8 hours today. This really is factorio 3D. The amount of content so far is great for an early access game.
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dethy
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Mar 2019 22:43 Post subject: |
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Also, someone made an interactive map!!
https://satisfactory-map.netlify.com/
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Mar 2019 04:24 Post subject: |
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Goddamn this is just digital crack.
So many small bugs, conveyor belts and power lines happy to defy the laws of physics right now, gamepad not recognised (for me) when I restart the game (yes I use a gamepad in conjunction with the mouse... it works for me!)...Clones that cannot be rid of, so I made a clone prison....
But I just don't care... the last time I was so immersed in a game was Subnautica.
I am spending unwholesome amounts of day just building platforms, walls, storage and kilometer after kilometer of conveyer belt and power line....
Save me!
Edit: It is a shame in a way the 'lands are not at least partially procedually generated. I spent hours searching for a coal vein, and I found all sorts of stuff on the way... If this could just be different every start it would be utterly epic. (assuming more bugs were not introduced)...
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Mar 2019 11:41 Post subject: |
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Y'all using that savegame editor to give yourself trains and stuff?
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hirschq
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Mar 2019 13:01 Post subject: |
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| Amadeus wrote: | | Y'all using that savegame editor to give yourself trains and stuff? |
Not me, just playing with what's available.
I hope the game isn't going to get a realism overhaul. The gravity defying floors and belts make it fun
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
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Sin317
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dethy
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2019 12:05 Post subject: |
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So I've been playing the version from that russian site but was thinking about buying it. Is it possible to VPN this like when buying steam games? I see I can get it for $18 from India, had anyone seen it any cheaper?
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Sin317
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2019 13:10 Post subject: |
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I don't like this game. I tried and tried, but I just can't.
It's a cheap man's "casual" factorio. It's not even close as fun or complex or entertaining.
There is nothing deep or complicated. There is nothing to figure out.
Iron ore -> iron ingot -> iron plate duh
Iron ore -> iron ingot -> iron rod - screws duh
iron plate + screws -> reinforcedd iron plates duh
Conveyors cannot be used to make any kind of complex system, they are simply a means of getting 1 thing from A to B. The lack of anything to sort or pick or whatever, completely takes out the possibilities.
All you CAN do is calculate how many machines you need to build, to min-max a production of a certain item and that's it.
Not to mention that you need huge amounts of space to just build the most basic of items because everything is freaking oversized. But this doesn't add any complexity either, since you can just plaster to the whole planet with foundations anyway, making any kind of space management irrelevant as well.
Add to that unlimited resources and no actual danger and it's just a boring "connect A to B to make C".
This game can not even clean Factorio's boots, tbh.
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2019 13:45 Post subject: |
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I think the issue is people are somehow expecting a 3d-Factorio game, but I don't see it that way.
And making a computer is NOT straightforward. And when trying to find oil was a trek especially when you accidentally walk past 2 berry bee bods and not realise... till you're being attacked from all sides...Then the mammoth task of creating miles of conveyors... only to realise screw production is hideously slow.... so you make more constructors, but run out of power.. so you rewire things and then realise there isn't enough coal now..so you look for another coal seam...
and there is at least another tier to go, plus I hope more 'tasks' to complete as well.
Few niggles - favourites need some work, an overhead view showing things like power line distribution would be very useful..trucks should be able to traverse terrain a bit better... Otherwise I just can't stop playing. Tweaking existing stuff to be more efficient is a neverending thing...
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2019 16:50 Post subject: |
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Wait... you can CHOOSE what to split?? How does one do that??
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Sin317
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2019 17:19 Post subject: |
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It's not what I meant. In factorio, conveyor belts e.g. have 2 lines, so you can mix and split and match whatever. Also, there is nothing to sort.
It's just not as complex as factorio, not by a long shot.
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dethy
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2019 20:29 Post subject: |
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| Kaltern wrote: | | Wait... you can CHOOSE what to split?? How does one do that?? |
One of the Caterium research trees allow you to build smart splitters where you set configurations on it.
It's not the same as Factorios where you can run multiple things on same conveyor belt and have a picker just grab the correct piece. Conveyors in this game are limited to one item per "spot"
But it's a moot point with higher ranked belts transporting stuff instantly.
Factorio is a lot more complex game. It's probably hard to transition most of it to 3D.
This game is a different level and I enjoy this game more than Factorio honestly.
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deelix
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Apr 2019 21:11 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | I don't like this game. I tried and tried, but I just can't.
It's a cheap man's "casual" factorio. It's not even close as fun or complex or entertaining.
There is nothing deep or complicated. There is nothing to figure out.
Iron ore -> iron ingot -> iron plate duh
Iron ore -> iron ingot -> iron rod - screws duh
iron plate + screws -> reinforcedd iron plates duh
Conveyors cannot be used to make any kind of complex system, they are simply a means of getting 1 thing from A to B. The lack of anything to sort or pick or whatever, completely takes out the possibilities.
All you CAN do is calculate how many machines you need to build, to min-max a production of a certain item and that's it.
Not to mention that you need huge amounts of space to just build the most basic of items because everything is freaking oversized. But this doesn't add any complexity either, since you can just plaster to the whole planet with foundations anyway, making any kind of space management irrelevant as well.
Add to that unlimited resources and no actual danger and it's just a boring "connect A to B to make C".
This game can not even clean Factorio's boots, tbh. |
How is that a problem? You can see a lot of people being OCD about stuff like space management. You can build in levels, and make it look very sophisticated and well managed. And im sure it will get more complex with time. Dev wise or maybe community, if its mod friendly...
Of course factorio is more complex, its also why it scared some people away from it.
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Apr 2019 09:16 Post subject: |
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Yeah it's not a complex game if you just plaster the planet with foundations and lay everything out everywhere.
It starts getting a lot more complex if you actually want to manage your space, create tight factories that do their job at 100% productivity, yet also look nice and without a mess of conveyors.
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