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 Posted: Tue, 7th May 2019 21:10 Post subject: girl raped and murdered in belgium |
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Just read up a bit about after seeying the missing poster few days ago on facebook n stuff seems the culprit was some homeles guy who had 10years before served already 4 years in jail for previous rape charge, then in 2017 convicted again for rape (for only 4 years, yes two rapes is not a repeat offender right ... give him same 4 year sentence as before, he wont do it again , after that , we promise ) but some MAGGOT thought it was a good idea that while he went into higher court this homeless guy could keep wander the streets as a free man for the next 2 years without serving his sentence, had they done the FUCKING JOBs this girl would still be alive
blood on there hands ... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR , and where is all these feminists following up on rape courtcases... is all u got just fucking snapchat and twitter ranting about videogames, u cunts , do some real fucking stuff in stead of going after videogames, u could have saved lives
its sooo bloody obvious what was gonna happen, and yet its so commen nobody is shouting it of rooftops or whistle blowing it, its every day same shit same story at court i guess that nobody cares anymore to make a worthwhile fuzz about it....
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| Posted: Tue, 7th May 2019 21:24 Post subject: |
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You seem to take this awfully personal
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| Posted: Tue, 7th May 2019 21:29 Post subject: |
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any individual with commen sence and an incling of intelligence could have predicted this outcome, makes my blood boil, i always shout when i see dumb shit happening in my vicinity, but at court it seems nobody is shouting anymore and its costing lives.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Tue, 7th May 2019 23:49 Post subject: |
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Yeah... any source(s) for that? 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Tue, 7th May 2019 23:54 Post subject: |
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http://brusselstimes.com/belgium/justice/15385/murder-julie-van-espen-suspect-already-convicted-released-rape-sexual-assault
| Quote: | the minister said the suspect had served four and a half years in prison, for a series of offences, including the rape of a woman.
He explained that in 2016, he was again committed for theft and rape, for which he spent two and a half months in detention, awaiting trial.
Geens, who expressed regret over the matter and offered his sympathies to the victim's family, explained that Antwerp's correctional courts sentenced the suspect to four more years imprisonment, but that he was not immediately arrested, and appealed his case. |
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| Posted: Fri, 24th May 2019 11:11 Post subject: |
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Most rapes/rape murders that appear in the news are done by immigrants - often illegal ones - so it's rather amusing this gets so much attention when the perp is not an immigrant for once. It shows how two-faced the media is these days.
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 24th May 2019 11:30 Post subject: |
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I find it interesting that some people just have to bring up immigrants when they're not involved. And you attack media for giving attention to a rape committed by a native yet write that "Most rapes/rape murders that appear in the news are done by immigrants - often illegal ones". Oxymoron.
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| Posted: Fri, 24th May 2019 11:32 Post subject: |
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Also, why doesnt the media report on all those rapes committed in families or by aquaintances which happen to be the most common?
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| Posted: Fri, 24th May 2019 12:08 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | I find it interesting that some people just have to bring up immigrants when they're not involved. And you attack media for giving attention to a rape committed by a native yet write that "Most rapes/rape murders that appear in the news are done by immigrants - often illegal ones". Oxymoron. |
Come on ... it amazes me how dimwitted people have become. This story got massive massive MASSIVE attention, even outside of Belgium with this topic as evidence. There's tons of stories of people getting murdered or badly injured, after being raped by immigrants and they get one article and that's it. Not even a big article. There's such a thing as "burying news" by either keeping it off the top of a news website or putting it way back in the newspaper itself and you see this often with these stories. The moment it involves an immigrant, it doesn't get that much attention. It's not an oxymoron - it's just you thinking in black & white instead of greys like too many people on this forum.
And why I bring it up? Because I never see this kind of attention when immigrants are involved and some random white guy going crazy is not as big a national problem as the immigrant crisis, with many not giving a fuck about our values and bothering girls left and right. Why don't you come over here to Belgium, ask any teenage girl how she experiences this and they'll tell you the same story over and over: immigrants bother them all the time, they can't go shopping for an immigrant much much older than them hitting on them, following them, even groping them. We got a major problem here and no-one pays it a lot of attention, least of all the media.
All my female friends with daughters do NOT allow them to go out on their own in the city. How fucking SAD has this become.
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| Posted: Fri, 24th May 2019 12:16 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | | Also, why doesnt the media report on all those rapes committed in families or by aquaintances which happen to be the most common? |
Might be most common, but it doesn't help when the victim shuts up in fear of ruining the family, or worse, if the family tells the victim to shut up for the very same reason.
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| Posted: Fri, 24th May 2019 12:52 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | couleur wrote: | | Also, why doesnt the media report on all those rapes committed in families or by aquaintances which happen to be the most common? |
Might be most common, but it doesn't help when the victim shuts up in fear of ruining the family, or worse, if the family tells the victim to shut up for the very same reason. |
It is indeed pretty common but the media generally doesn't report it because these cases are usually dealt with in a very quiet manner for obvious reasons. Unless the victim contacts the press, there would be no news source. The same goes for a lot of rape cases, by the way. The police keeps statistics and those occasionally get published but by news articles alone, you can't really guess how bad it is.
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 24th May 2019 13:15 Post subject: |
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There's a bit of confirmation bias going on. However, there's also some truth to some of the claims. However #2, the rape cases getting the most attention in Sweden tend to be by non-natives; at least in the evening papers (populism and all that jazz in order to sell more copies).
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| Posted: Fri, 24th May 2019 13:17 Post subject: |
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| red_avatar wrote: | | This story got massive massive MASSIVE attention, even outside of Belgium with this topic as evidence. |
That is mostly because: He was a known danger. They had him convicted before, he was going to be on trial but the justice department had too much work load. So the outrage and it blowing up outside of the country was pretty much based on: this could have been prevented. |
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| Posted: Fri, 24th May 2019 14:00 Post subject: |
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my topic had nothing to do with immigration, but with the fact that many murders and crimes of this level can be prevented with commen sence where its very predictable on why it happened.
sure u cant lock someone up because u think he will do it, but in this case u let a guy with no home wander the streets while already convicted for the same fucking thing a second time , ofcourse he is gonna think, fuck i better rape another woman before i go back to jail and with no home how the fuck would u even find him if he didnt show up for his appeal ...
mixing immigration into this harms the thing we want to try and give spotlight, the fact that serial offenders of brutal crimes are roaming the streets because of bullshit, they need to be fucking watched, i would even make volunteer private investigaters vigilante group to follow such individuals day and night to protect society. this group will save livesalready in the first week i bet of following around.
Not to mention the defender of this homeles guy, has blood on his hands. Everyone deserves a fair trial, but to put in an appeal for a guy with such history .... he wanted one more tiny cheque from the state and a young woman payed for his greed with her life, fucking cockroach
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| Posted: Fri, 24th May 2019 14:57 Post subject: |
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Rape stories aren't profusely reported when they concern immigrants and don't make the headlines at all (wonder where y'all get those stories you constantly link about criminal deeds done by immigrants), now I've really heard it all : lol:
Unless you have actual stats about this supposed bias from the media you're completely talking out of your ass. Rape stories involving migrants get plenty of exposure compared to the vast majority of agressions.
Such stories are only brought up in the media when they're disgusting or sensational enough, so that they attract readers.
But I recall writing to you about this subject before and I got jackshit as an answer, so whatever. Again this fucking obsession with immigrants even the topic has nothing to do with it.
| PickupArtist wrote: | | blood on there hands ... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR , and where is all these feminists following up on rape courtcases... is all u got just fucking snapchat and twitter ranting about videogames, u cunts , do some real fucking stuff in stead of going after videogames, u could have saved lives. |
I usually somewhat enjoy your posts, there's a fair share of common sense to be found in them, but this ? Are you for real ? Don't you think there are plenty of feminist associations for victims that try helping them ? Who do you think helps them when they got nobody that will hear them out, police and family members included ?
Do you think they get much help at all ? Do you think they have the power to overrule a court order ? What do Twitter SJWs have to do with this ? - and they're not really the last to report rape/sexual attacks..
You're so pissed at everything that your aim becomes lousy.
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| Posted: Fri, 24th May 2019 16:32 Post subject: |
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this is the bitching forum isnt it, yes a lot pisses me off, and i stand by my statement, if more people had spent their energy on twittering about such court cases (and not spend it on easy target videogames) and how such monsters still are roaming the streets free even with a second rape conviction on their tab, it might not have come to this, so yes i think its valid i bring it up even while raging.  Also lets not forget , its not just rape, it ended in murder , the guy had nothing to lose anymore, court system gave him the opportunity, he took it.
yesterday i heard my 30+y old sister with whom i rarely converse use the word patriarchy ... and i had to counter with toxic masculinity ...  dafuck is going on man
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 24th May 2019 17:33 Post subject: |
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If people spent less time twattering, fecesbooking, instafaming etc. and more time on actual social issues it would be better. Social junk like that has turned into mental illnesses and affect peoples attention span, focusing abilities and so on.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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