So all my money got stolen.
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2019 22:15    Post subject:
So yeah, I think someone just tried stealing my money again. This time the 3D secure code came in an SMS, for 848.40 GBP.

HA! You fuckers. I have no money left. The card is blocked and I cannot overdraw my account.

And now I'm actually afraid Sad
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2019 22:38    Post subject:
Nuke that card from orbit Laughing

You need 1 main account where you have most of your riches and never do online payments, just use the card to pay in person and for the ATM and 1 second account with a few hundred euroshekels for online payments.

Report this new transaction attempt to the bank.
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2019 22:54    Post subject:
Card is nuked, think I'll also close the account when I get my money back.

I will report this tomorrow. Now it's too late.

I will also take this to the police when I file a report. This was a payment for a different company, a Nigerian one. I don't remember ever sending Nigerian princes any money so they could claim their inheritance, so I guess we should nuke Nigeria, nest of dirty scammers that they are.


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deelix
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2019 22:57    Post subject:
@Bendi You dont have any enemies?
Probably not, because I know my emails PW was leaked and probably shared and thats what happened to



@VGAdeadcafe Thats common knowledge for most people above 16...


And here in Niorway we have had these BankID devices for 15 years (for key chains), that generate a unique code, then personal password and social security. Very secure, but could take some time.

BankID on mobile is very simple. Get a random word, confirm and use a personal 4 letter digit code from your phone and get access to your bank account

Im sure a lot of banks have similar solutions. A friend of mine that moved to Canada said his bank over there only required a name and a password?? WTF, this is not fortnite...
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2019 23:03    Post subject:
No enemies, and I'm the only one who's ever used my card.

My bank account was not accessed, they checked. Or if it was accessed the hackers left no logs.

Somehow my card details, which no shop should ever keep, must have been leaked.

From now on I will pay online only with BLIK (a system designed by polish banks, at no point do any details of your bank account or cards used) or a virtual card. Fuck 3D Secure if it doesn't work all the time.


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madmax17




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2019 23:43    Post subject:
aah Nigeria, the land of shameless scammers Very Happy
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sanchin




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Jun 2019 23:43    Post subject:
Not everything triggers 3d secure - I read that this system is rather useless, since THE OTHER side has to support it, not your bank. Since you're polish:
PKO BP wrote:

3D–Secure działa w sklepach online oznaczonych symbolami MasterCard SecureCode lub Verified by Visa. Jeśli dany sklep internetowy nie korzysta z usługi 3D-Secure, zapłacisz bez dodatkowego uwierzytelnienia.


Did you ever use Booking.com? They work with hotels that don't actually support card payments in any way apart from using your card details...which booking used to send them apparently. Yes, your card id, cvv etc... - again, in Polish: https://niebezpiecznik.pl/post/placac-przez-booking-com-masz-pewnosc-ze-dane-karty-beda-bezpieczne-oh-wait/
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Jun 2019 09:26    Post subject:
Never used booking.com, or at least never paid though it, registered or gave them any payment information.

I have no idea when my card details leaked or where.

That fraudulent payment will probably be booked tomorrow, so it will be a fun day. Volotea unfortunately said they will just wait for this to go through official channels. Too bad, they have no fraud prevention.
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TheZor
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Jun 2019 21:48    Post subject:
I won't bother with the snarky remarks, just hope you get this sorted out asap


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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jun 2019 09:16    Post subject:
I think the most important question has not been asked yet, so I will do it. How do you know it's inbred fuckers?
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jun 2019 09:24    Post subject:
I always assume the worst thing about scammers and thieves.

So anyway the money was finally booked on my account, but since today is a fucking religious/national holiday the banks and everything else aside from churches is closed. I have to wait until tomorrow to start the procedure properly.


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jun 2019 12:51    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jun 2019 13:42    Post subject:
So you don't get a sms when you pay for something with your card? What kind of service do you have? They call me from the bank if I buy something on the internet that costs more than 200€, to approve the transaction.

Where are you from that the banks are closed today, and they should still have free emergency phone number that can be used 24h?


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Bendi




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jun 2019 14:06    Post subject:
It's 24h only for blocking cards. They should ask about it and I did one get my card blocked when I tried to use it in India, but:

- they don't use it for EU countries
- my bank does use 3D Secure, but 3D secure doesn't work all the time, because a site has to be certified to use it (that's laughable!). So yeah, if you know all the cards details you will not have to confirm it with an sms all the time


Hopefully this will be sorted out soon

Oh and I also contacted VISA directly, they told me it has to go through he bank. The good thing is they will check it and if they do not find any indication of fraud on my behalf I will receive all my money back.
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AnarchoS




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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Jun 2019 07:15    Post subject:
Good to hear, I had a friend that had his card stolen when he was visiting the US, and he never got the stolen money returned, whatever was stolen in 24 hours before they blocked the card he lost, i think it was around 10000$. Good thing is that he has the money and that was not his all.

I had my wallet stolen once and was lucky that I noticed it quick enough, so I was able to block it before they were able to use it.


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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Jun 2019 07:19    Post subject:
Why didn't u limit the card amount?

Mine is limited to around 5000$ and I always check if something suspicious gone with the bill.


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Bendi




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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Jun 2019 09:24    Post subject:
A) How much money do you think I had on that account or in general? Laughing

B) Funny stuff, but the limits set for using "card not present" transactions apparently do not have to work when the card is used abroad.

C) I checked it the same day, but those transactions were done at 6 and 8 AM, and then there were a couple of others but the first ones drained the account anyway Laughing. And since it was a Sunday I didn't go shopping, because everything was closed.


Anyway I finally officially started the procedure. The nice woman at the bank said this could take from 15 up to 90 days, so it will be a fun wait. Still have to go to the police, but I'll do it later.
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jun 2019 15:32    Post subject:
Forgot to write this, but all my money was returned yesterday. It took, as it apparently is supposed to, one working day after I issued the chargeback request. I waited more time for the operation to get booked Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jun 2019 20:36    Post subject:
woohoo So Much Win


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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jun 2019 21:01    Post subject:
nice Very Happy


Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. Reaction
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jun 2019 22:16    Post subject:
..there goes my vacation Sad


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jun 2019 00:40    Post subject:
Bendi wrote:
Forgot to write this, but all my money was returned yesterday. It took, as it apparently is supposed to, one working day after I issued the chargeback request. I waited more time for the operation to get booked Smile

Nice!
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jun 2019 01:42    Post subject:
Money does bring happiness, doesn't it? We've been lied to.
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jun 2019 04:53    Post subject:
I'm pretty happy to be able to buy food with my hard earned money.

No idea if having a lot more of it will make me happier, but having none for over a week definitely made me unhappy.


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jun 2019 10:01    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
..there goes my vacation Sad


Laughing
Nice to hear that's been solved Bendi
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jun 2019 12:25    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
..there goes my vacation Sad

Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jun 2019 14:57    Post subject:
it is common practice for CC thieves to offer plane tickets and luxury hotel bookings at half price or less since they can't cash the money in the stolen CC anonymously. So "services" like this is how they get paid.

Never using your card online, and paying cash at stores helps a great deal in keeping your CC safe.
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jun 2019 16:49    Post subject:
I was informed today that this is not in fact the end. It's a conditionally recognized complaint, which means that if they decide that I was lying or grossly negligent I will need to give back the money. Well, actually they'll just take it from my account, possibly leaving me with a debit.

God damn it.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jun 2019 17:23    Post subject:
You gotta be kidding? wtf??


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