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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 19:48    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Unsurprising.

They have NO IDEA what players want since Cataclysm.

lolozaur wrote:
and they wanted just 2 pvp servers Laughing



Guys stop being dishonest about it.
They clearly said they were going the cautious road. And looking of the server state on retail you'd be an idiot to say that's the wrong approach.

Can you two honestly say you'd expected this many servers full? I didn't.. but yes I was sure 2 didn't cut it. At most I thought 6 full pvp servers, mind you the servers have FAR GREATER capacity than the ones we had in 2004.

So yeah it is a bit cheap to give em hell for this. So far they've been adding servers by demand and to me that would be the logical approach. Especially knowing that all these servers will be expecting a huge drop of players as well.


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 19:50    Post subject:
And also, the question is, how many will play for more than 14 days ^^
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 19:58    Post subject:


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and yes, mine is only average
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 19:58    Post subject:
Morphineus wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Unsurprising.

They have NO IDEA what players want since Cataclysm.

lolozaur wrote:
and they wanted just 2 pvp servers Laughing



Guys stop being dishonest about it.
They clearly said they were going the cautious road. And looking of the server state on retail you'd be an idiot to say that's the wrong approach.

Can you two honestly say you'd expected this many servers full? I didn't.. but yes I was sure 2 didn't cut it. At most I thought 6 full pvp servers, mind you the servers have FAR GREATER capacity than the ones we had in 2004.

So yeah it is a bit cheap to give em hell for this. So far they've been adding servers by demand and to me that would be the logical approach. Especially knowing that all these servers will be expecting a huge drop of players as well.


I mean, 6 full servers would only be like 60-120k(Not sure what the cap is. 10k?) people. You'd have to think this would be completely dead on arrival for that to be remotely close to enough. Wasn't there more people watching the early beta on Twitch?

Obviously no one expected ~30 full servers with 300k+ people in queue on EU alone, but even 6 PvP realms would've obviously been far from enough.

Oh well, so far the game has been unplayable for me. I got in on Ashbringer for about an hour last night, but today it has a 5k+ queue. My preferred realm Gehennas has a 10+ hour queue. Basically impossble to play if you have a normal 7-16 job. Sad
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 20:20    Post subject:
Hindsight is marvellous no? Razz

Beforehand I expected (full or high capacity): 6 PvP, 3 PvE, 2 RP and 1 RP PvP (I'm talking about English realms can't even start to think about the other languages since I never played on those).

That would be about 120 000 players for classic on those servers alone which I thought would be about the number of consistent players (as in: not the early days numbers). Private server community was around 300k.

Hype numbers? I have not put much thought into it and in all honesty I don't think they should have more than what they see as the likely number in 3 months.

(Also: EU region, but that should be obvious if you look at my location )


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 20:46    Post subject:
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With hotfixes that we are currently deploying to all WoW Classic realms, we are substantially increasing the number of players that can be simultaneously logged in and playing. We expect this to result in smaller queues for realms that have large queues, and some realms should no longer have queues at all.

We will closely monitor performance and stability throughout this process.

Thank you very much.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 21:04    Post subject:
Bullshit, razorgore which was medium this morning / high tonight.. had a dc for whatever reason, my router stopped working (blaming w10 since wifi was still working just fine, just cabled issue, after restarting w10 it worked again)...

Bam 5 hour queue.


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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 21:43    Post subject:
where do u think all those people with 10k queues went to play haha

and u know, all this shit is happening cause they removed existing technology where instead u could just launch more virtual servers and instances within the same realm and warp people to it where needed, now they need to make whole new realms ... spineles devs giving into a brainles mob

many people got so fucked so hard, its practicly unforgivable, imagine u waited years for this moment and did massive preperations and have a lan with ur mates and 3 of the 5 get in to play and the 2 other just have to sit there staring at a 6 hour queue ... or many streamers having a full group and night of fun prepared, totaly got fucked

they did the same shit at d3 launch, they just suck major ass and there is no defence, d3 was even worse cause they knew exactly how many units got shipped and sold, and knew exctly how many people would log in launch day +-

anyway i had my fun, but the queue caused a level rift between people i play with and if u watch most streams, people just mindlessly soling mobs, there is very very little coop play or interaction (mostly blamed on the total stupid quest item drops design)


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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 21:57    Post subject:
Do you play Alliance? Because on Horde we had quite a bit of coop/interaction.
(We're on the same server, that's why I ask)




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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 21:58    Post subject:
They were wrong estimating the amount of people interested in Classic.

So there's a chance they might be wrong also about the (big) number of people who will still play after a while.

We'll see.


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 22:17    Post subject:
...and ded...world server down bullshit again
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 22:32    Post subject:
no horde, but still in barrens and that place is filled with these bad drops quests i guess

and pyrewood queue is a weird beast, im literaly waiting 20 mins for a 100 people queue ... with the queue ticking down 1 person every 1-2 minutes lol, probalby their hotfix was like, removed the first 2 digits of the queue number, BAM FIXED; queues are much shorter now boys!!!

ok spent half an hour looking at the queue in a background tab at <1 min , went from 110 people to 40 ... epic trolls

and now im inside and im in a completely deserted barrens ... like not a single person chatting or anyone in sight and all the mobs alive everywhere i look
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Aug 2019 23:19    Post subject:
Ah, I'm UD so questing on the Eastern Kingdoms. Experience has been quite different there.


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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Aug 2019 15:22    Post subject:
Today 19:00 , we will open two new WoW Classic Realms in this region:

Realm Type Language
Bloodfang PvP English
Judgement PvP English

Laughing

Weekend is coming, gonna be terrible
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Aug 2019 15:27    Post subject:
i really dont know how people on shaz realm and realms with 10k+ realms are enjoying this ... and by the looks of things, its gonna stay this way a whole month.
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Aug 2019 16:07    Post subject:
Will be interesting to see how fucking large the queues are going to this weekend. The biggest wave of players might not have even started playing yet.
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Aug 2019 16:38    Post subject:
what is also a big problem on the realms is peak times versus low times, again , a problem they solved with server instancing in retail, but now showing its ugly head, all the realms are low/lifeless in the early hours of the monring, while in retail, people get zoned into active playerhubs, so its never really dead.

so basicly they will have all this hardware running 24/7 when its only in max use 25% of the time ,

I bet accounting and upper management is gonna come down hard in a few weeks and put a stop to this balony and tell them to get the technology back in to save cash, its such a waste.

Its inevitable and so basicly all this realm bullshit we going through right now would have been all been for nothing. Im putting money down that in one to three months, the blue posts will all be about adding back server instancing and sharding
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Aug 2019 16:46    Post subject:
That's one way to kill Classic.
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Aug 2019 17:25    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
That's one way to kill Classic.


Yep, that is the one thing that nearly all people believe: Having your own community makes it better. People have a reputation to uphold.

And frankly I think they are right. Take that away and over time you have the exact assholery that is quite common in BFA.


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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Aug 2019 17:38    Post subject:
its super easy to program a relation status where people who have encountered each other before in visual range would be ported to same instance, they just to lazy to program it. Its a tech issue, not a 'feeling' issue
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Aug 2019 18:49    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
its super easy to program a relation status where people who have encountered each other before in visual range would be ported to same instance, they just to lazy to program it. Its a tech issue, not a 'feeling' issue


That's already in game though for: friendslist and guildies. What you propose wouldn't suffice for having a fixed community.


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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Aug 2019 20:20    Post subject:
Logged in today with no queue. Worlds is almost empty compared to yesterday. Guess "layering" is in full action...


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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 13:06    Post subject:
As expected with the weekend, you cant quest solo Laughing Im in Hillsbrad Hills and its full on horde.
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 13:27    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
As expected with the weekend, you cant quest solo Laughing I'm in Hillsbrad Hills and its full of the horde.


Ahh, good old ganking times in Hillsbrad Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 15:35    Post subject:
gg nolifers Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 19:20    Post subject:
Old news.

By now he may already have another lvl 50... Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 20:15    Post subject:
So, played a bit... and...

why do people want this again, lol?

It's all grind. Nothing but grind.

Mindless quests, all the same, same shit over and over...

Fuck, all this does, is making me want to play Current WoW, rofl.
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 21:21    Post subject:
Lev 30 and only 16 gold so far Laughing , dont think i will afford the mount at 40. Gotta say im enjoying it alot, more than half of the time i did it in parties, awesome feeling , and the community is fantastic as well, free buffs everywhere, all thanks you, nothing bad so far, not even ninja loot Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 21:29    Post subject:


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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 21:41    Post subject:
Laughing


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