CONTROL (by Remedy)
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Ishkur123




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 09:17    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
Whats with all these timed sidequests that take you out of the action? Like you‘re in a hurry to find this person but suddenly you have 20 mins left to complete this other sidequest a random location. The last one I got was at a place I never even saw before. So I just didnt go and failed the sidequest. I dont like failing quests.



i started to ignore them too after 3 or 4.. i wouldnt call them sidequests, more l ike random activities. Kinda pointless imho.
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CaptnNemo




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 09:27    Post subject:
For those with stuttering issues like I have, you can try the below procedure. According to many, it works great.

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/possible-solution-for-dx12-stutter-in-individual-games-eg-metro-exodus-bf5.425353/

As for disabling motion blur for dx12 :

https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Control#Motion_blur

Enjoy!! Very Happy


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h0rnyfavn
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 09:59    Post subject:
@CaptnNemo


Intelligent standby list client has also helped greatly reduce stuttering on my PC


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CaptnNemo




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 10:11    Post subject:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
@CaptnNemo


Intelligent standby list client has also helped greatly reduce stuttering on my PC



I don't know what exactly you mean. Could you expend on that and how to set that up ?

I'm at work but I'll surely try later on.

Thank you


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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 10:20    Post subject:
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h0rnyfavn
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 10:56    Post subject:
CaptnNemo wrote:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
@CaptnNemo


Intelligent standby list client has also helped greatly reduce stuttering on my PC



I don't know what exactly you mean. Could you expend on that and how to set that up ?

I'm at work but I'll surely try later on.

Thank you


https://www.wagnardsoft.com/content/intelligent-standby-list-cleaner-v1000-released

just let it run in the background, it's from the dude who developed DDU


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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 11:03    Post subject:
PowerGamer wrote:
The posted DLC unlock above gave me an idea. So now I present Quantum Vaseline removal patch for the game (tested to work perfectly on Control-HOODLUM). Smile

For DX11 hex edit renderer_rmdwin7_f.dll:

78A53C: 01 -> 00 bool rend::RenderOptions::RenderDepthOfField
78A53D: 01 -> 00 bool rend::RenderOptions::RenderVectorBlur
78A54E: 01 -> 00 bool rend::RenderOptions::ScreenSpaceAntialiasing

For DX12 hex edit renderer_rmdwin10_f.dll:

7AE73D: 01 -> 00 bool rend::RenderOptions::RenderDepthOfField
7AE73E: 01 -> 00 bool rend::RenderOptions::RenderVectorBlur
7AE74F: 01 -> 00 bool rend::RenderOptions::ScreenSpaceAntialiasing

The RenderVectorBlur variable is responsible for camera motion blur. No need to use the injection DLL patch from Steam forums anymore and it works under DX12 too.


Anyone can upload the hexed .dlls somewhere for the noobs like me?
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 11:32    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 12:09    Post subject:
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 13:11    Post subject:
From my testing and after watching digital foundry video, these are the settings with 2070 that yield almost 100% stable 58fps (playing on a 40-60hz freesync monitor so I am using 58fps as max in rtss to stay in freesync range).
RT: only both RT transparent settings turned ON. gi, contact shadows and debris reflections are all nice but less noticeable and cost a lot. SSAO does good job instead of global gi.
All other settings generally to max aside from: volumetric to medium since high does nothing more. Global reflections to medium.. although there is no difference with it set to off, medium or high since rt overrides it ?

Game is fantastic! I love the atmosphere, characters, combat and of course destruction!


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StEFaN7




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 13:18    Post subject:
anyone else has big loading times on dx11? game loads like in half a minute including when you die and sometimes 1-2sec freezes in game but framerate is very smooth vs on dx12 where game loads in like 2 sec with no freezes but framerate feels more choppy.


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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 16:12    Post subject:
Lip syncing here is terrible, specially during cutscenes... Is it only me ? Maybe because I play it in french ? but I don't think so and seems like a bug because voices are like 2 sec ahead of their lips. Unless they forgot to lipsync other languages ?


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mangaKat




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 17:01    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
Lip syncing here is terrible, specially during cutscenes... Is it only me ? Maybe because I play it in french ? but I don't think so and seems like a bug because voices are like 2 sec ahead of their lips. Unless they forgot to lipsync other languages ?


Happens with English as well.
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 17:21    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
Lip syncing here is terrible, specially during cutscenes... Is it only me ? Maybe because I play it in french ? but I don't think so and seems like a bug because voices are like 2 sec ahead of their lips. Unless they forgot to lipsync other languages ?

I play in english. The facial animations are great I think


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h0rnyfavn
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 17:41    Post subject:
Is Seize pointless?

You can seize enemies only after you have severely damaged them.

They are just a few shots away from dying.

tbh ideally, we should have 2 upgrade paths:

increase the duration of Seize

reduce the damage required to be dealt before you can actually seize enemies


PS The skill tree in general sucks.

Max out launch first, then go for health and energy. Everything else isn't worth upgrading tbh Sad


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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 18:16    Post subject:
Seize refills their HP. And its quite usefull ability later on. But shield on the other hand... Very Happy


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h0rnyfavn
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 19:44    Post subject:
xGAME007 wrote:
Seize refills their HP



What I meant is it's more convenient to just shoot them a few more times and kill them instead of standing still at one place trying to charm them. Very Happy


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ixigia
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 19:48    Post subject:
Finished the voyage into the Remedian hallucinogenic insanity as well, I'm hanging between admiration for the effort and the awkward sensation of not having accomplished anything worthwhile. Poker Face

Was it memorable? Yes..but also no. Was it fun to play? Yes..no...maybe. Was it..J̴e̸s̵s̴e̷ ̴w̵h̸a̸t̸ ̷a̷r̶e̵ ̸y̷o̸u̴ ̸d̶o̶i̴n̷g ȁ̴̡̋̃̎́re ̷̢̤͙̽̒̒̑̒̊̀ý̶͓̙̼̠̞͍̗͕̰oṵ̵̟̏͆̆̑̄̂͊͜ ̴̭̬͍̘̮̦̼͓̯̿̿̚ͅş̴͔͉͚͓̟̩̻̾̈̄̀͠t̸̛̯̝̟̿͋̈i̵̩̩̯͇̼̭̒̇͑͌ll ̶̧̡͙̖͇͈̹̲̓̾ẅ̶̨͙͚͚̠̠͔́̐͠ỉ̶͓̞̙͔̼̯ţ̷̨̼͍̘̗͕̮̮̘̊̇̎̾̈́̄͝h̷̡̖͔͆̄̈́͗̎̒ ̸̢͕͈̫̹͖̙̼̟͉̍̎͋̐͛̚̚m̷͔̉̍͒̿̈́͘͝e?


The game tries to break walls and often does it successfully, but at the same time it's stuck in a repetitive gameplay loop where encounters are way too drawn-out and the cleverness in terms of morphing level design alternates evident blandness. Some bits work wonderfully with the atmosphere that blends with the action (loved The Maze for instance), others feel like pseudo-Ubichore. There's a fine line that separates genuine brilliance from pretentiousness, and the main story (or whatever that was Razz) does cross it quite a few times in my opinion.

Still, despite everything, I would be a lying Hissmen if I said that I didn't enjoy the experience as a whole. At least it was something original-ish that didn't make me feel like passively watching a movie whilst resorting on popamole systems (yes QB you lazy ass, I'm looking at you), a step into the right direction that could have been amazing but just preferred to live the perkele ~7/10 life.
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h0rnyfavn
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Aug 2019 20:18    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
~7/10 life.



I haven't finished it yet but it looks like I'm pretty close and I gotta agree with you.

And the story feels really pretentious... I enjoyed Quantum's Break story much more than this one.

PS The enemies spawning, again and again, gets really annoying...


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Sep 2019 02:17    Post subject:


Impressed with Remedy's tech, it's a nice glimpse into next-gen.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/control-pc-ray-tracings-killer-app-plus-full-xbox-one-x-vs-pc-comparison-digital-foundry.138176/page-4







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demde




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Sep 2019 07:20    Post subject:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
xGAME007 wrote:
Seize refills their HP



What I meant is it's more convenient to just shoot them a few more times and kill them instead of standing still at one place trying to charm them. Very Happy


It is pointless for me. Pierce with a Damage while aiming increase mod is 1 shot kill for most of the enemies im encountering so far. I call it "Bad mofo" Very Happy


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Ampee




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Sep 2019 11:31    Post subject:
Lip syncing is sooo bad in this game.
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couleur
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Sep 2019 11:57    Post subject:
Ishkur123 wrote:
couleur wrote:
Whats with all these timed sidequests that take you out of the action? Like you‘re in a hurry to find this person but suddenly you have 20 mins left to complete this other sidequest a random location. The last one I got was at a place I never even saw before. So I just didnt go and failed the sidequest. I dont like failing quests.



i started to ignore them too after 3 or 4.. i wouldnt call them sidequests, more l ike random activities. Kinda pointless imho.


Thats what I‘m going to do aswell. In the middle of a fight -> Bureau Alert! Takes you right out of the flow. Its a bad system imo.


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tet666




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Sep 2019 12:22    Post subject:
Game is a solid 8/10 no more no less, style and the quirky and cool writing alone are enough for that.
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Aquma




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Sep 2019 15:43    Post subject:
I couldn't get into it at first, but it grows on me the more I play. Action gets pretty cool once you unlock enough stuff, though the RPG elements (mods and so on) are pretty pointless.

BTW, for those of you with Nvidia RTX cards, DLSS plus Nvidia Ansel Sharpening is an interesting combo. You have to find the right value, otherwise the game gets a bit aliased, but on my 1080p monitor the end result is very solid image quality (better than base 1080p) with nearly twice the FPS at times, and all RTX bells and whistles enabled. Very cool.
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tjuma




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Sep 2019 15:58    Post subject:
nevermind already mentioned by CaptnNemo Very Happy


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consolitis
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Sep 2019 15:58    Post subject:
From I've read this game has the best DLSS implementation so far, really helps with the framerate without introducing obvious upscaling artifacts. I think Digital Foundry will cover it in the future, but for now:



TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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h0rnyfavn
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Sep 2019 15:58    Post subject:
@Aquma

How do u even enable dlss in this game? It's greyed out in the menu.

Do I need to play at a resolution higher than 1080p? I tried enabling DSR and setting a resolution higher than 1080p and DLSS was still greyed out.


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Aquma




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Sep 2019 16:01    Post subject:
@h0rny

Hmm, it's not greyed out for me, and I do play at 1080p. In DX12 of course.
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h0rnyfavn
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Sep 2019 16:09    Post subject:
@Aquma

Yeah, I'm running it in dx12 too.


I always use NVIDIA driver slimming utility though before installing nvidia drivers .. to get rid of all the crap and spyware.. That's why I was asking earlier whether I need crapforce experience for dlss to work

PS Nevermind..it looks like it couldn't be enabled coz I didn't install ngx core package from nvidia drivers.


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