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consolitis
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Dec 2019 12:06    Post subject:
https://www.superdataresearch.com/superdata-launches-first-ever-xr-market-intelligence-platform/

VR HW sales this year saw a 31% bump compared to last year's ($2.1B vs $1.6B). Most of it is thanks to the Quest.

It will be very interesting to see sales next year, because with the just-released Boneworks, HL:A, and whatever else will come out, VR is just starting to attract serious interest by the mainstream.


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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Dec 2019 12:12    Post subject:
Yea I expect a huge jump by next summer.

You can smell the VR mainstream hype just because of the Alyx announcement.

They did well to do that right before Black Friday as well. Soooo many people bought a Rift S.

And I wouldn't be surprised if Valve wants to do a one two punch

That Left 4 Dead VR rumor would make sense
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Dec 2019 12:33    Post subject:
Halo Reach VR mod coming up, very cool. Looks very cool. I didn't expect this to be possible.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1205097012472926208


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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Dec 2019 17:47    Post subject:
New update for the Quest has seemingly improved the Link to be very useable.

I'm kinda hoping that somewhere, somewhen, wireless VR will be a standard thing, especially with the processing grunt of today's rigs - AMD's sudden dominance in the mid-high end consumer CPU market will make such a thing far easier to acheive.

ALVR isn't quite ready yet... I think we need a couple more years to get to the point when Ryzen 3950 equivalent CPU's are more like a standard option, and GPU video encoding efficiency improves a little more. (I wonder if failed tech like Stadia could be modified to work for such a thing?)

I believe the future for VR is very good indeed. We just need TRUE VR 3.0 headsets including proper eyetracked FOV and further improved optics... and lighter headsets. New display tech like Micro OLED or similar should help, and I imagine the electronics needed to drive these things can be further reduced.

Now we just need more proper games to be made, no compromises, no streamlining... Valve is leading the way, and if it succeeds.. I suspect other publishers will have no real choice but to follow.


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Dec 2019 19:52    Post subject:
Rift arrived yesterday. Only VR thing I could quickly download was that Rise of the Tomb Raider mansion thing. Tried 10 seconds with free movement, spent the rest of the day in bed after puking.


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Dec 2019 20:05    Post subject:


just send it over to me then Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Dec 2019 20:52    Post subject:
Laughing

When you got a VR HMD for the first time, make short session (20-30min max) of some chill games/experiences the first couple of days.

I was somewhat dizzy too at first (some years ago with my Oculus Devkit 1), now I can do 2-3 hours VR flight mission in DCS no problem.


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Dec 2019 21:36    Post subject:
What Silent said. Don't try and push it, take your time.

Try The Blu. Sit on the floor and relax with 'Reef Migration'

Start with things that don't move too much Laughing

I remember flying DCS for the first time never felt sick though, just dizzy.

There is nothing now that bothers me. Real life makes me sick Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Dec 2019 21:51    Post subject:
AKofC wrote:
Rift arrived yesterday. Only VR thing I could quickly download was that Rise of the Tomb Raider mansion thing. Tried 10 seconds with free movement, spent the rest of the day in bed after puking.


This is really the best intro to VR for a newcomer: https://store.steampowered.com/app/450390/The_Lab/


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Dec 2019 22:12    Post subject:
Thanks, I'll give that a try and take heed of the advice haha.


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Dec 2019 22:20    Post subject:
Yea 'The Lab', Oculus' 'First Steps' and 'First Contact', 'Superhot' ain't bad cause you're pretty much standing in place all the time unless you move IRL

same goes for most games that have the teleport to move option

The Rick and Morty game should do fine, 'Keep talking and nobody explodes' obviously,

Beatsaber might do fine as well.
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Dec 2019 22:54    Post subject:
Yeah all of the above. I got my rift. After meeting the T-Rex and the alien in the demo, I immediately strapped into a rollercoaster - because I was 41 and a twat.

Took a number of days to regroup.

Now, I could sit in it without any problem at all. I kinda miss the sensation of movement sometimes...

Your brain won't take long to adjust - just immediately take it off it you feel bad motionsickness - you cannot power through it otherwise your brain will wire itself into thinking VR = barf.


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Dec 2019 03:10    Post subject:
I tried that Asgard one and ended up punching my console monitor lol, but yeah I'll go strengthen myself before continuing.

And yeah I was like, "I've been gaming since the 80s, I can handle this." when that warning about free movement came up and so tried to walk down the stairs. When I got to the landing it was Vomit


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Dec 2019 09:38    Post subject:
What headets do you guys have, I haven't really followed VR since the first hypewave passed.
Are there still ones that are more advanced than others and can you play all games with a single set or are there some exclusives? I see the higher end sets are still expensive af, I bet with the cheaper ones there are some downsides or missing features.
I'd like to get into VR now that I have a powerful enough system but only if the price is good and I don't have to live with an inferior experience. Maybe not quite there yet?
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Dec 2019 10:18    Post subject:
I'm still on my Oculus Rift. I bought a 3rd sensor, so that the tracking in the room works better but I guess I will switch to a sensorless setup some time during the next year. Regarding picture quality, I have not tested any other headset, but I guess there is a lot of room for improvement, but the rift is perfectly fine to get absolutely immersed Smile Oh and the vr games I tried from the russian forum all worked fine. Am not aware of any "platform" exclusives.


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Dec 2019 10:40    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Dec 2019 15:54    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Dec 2019 16:22    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Dec 2019 16:24    Post subject:
This is such a cool detail!!

Off-topic: It reminds me that they did this and dives inside monitors in The Matrix all the time to symbolize "worlds within worlds/a 2D surface" Smile



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"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Dec 2019 17:56    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
I'm still on my Oculus Rift. I bought a 3rd sensor, so that the tracking in the room works better but I guess I will switch to a sensorless setup some time during the next year. Regarding picture quality, I have not tested any other headset, but I guess there is a lot of room for improvement, but the rift is perfectly fine to get absolutely immersed Smile Oh and the vr games I tried from the russian forum all worked fine. Am not aware of any "platform" exclusives.


I have same setup and will be keeping it for awhile. I also added a pulley system so no wires on floor.
What do you mean: vr games I tried from the russian forum all worked fine


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Dec 2019 18:58    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Dec 2019 22:10    Post subject:
todd72173 wrote:
What do you mean: vr games I tried from the russian forum all worked fine

There is a russian pirate forum and they have a lot of vr releases Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 10:04    Post subject:
You mean that forum which's steam content section has been disabled for a month?

Not really an option right now imho
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 12:01    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 12:10    Post subject:
Now both Index and Quest won't arrive until February. https://uploadvr.com/oculus-quest-valve-index-backorder-february/


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 16:51    Post subject:
Still on the OG Vive here. Bought the Index but I'm gonna RMA it for the Quest. The incremental upgrade wasn't worth the $999 for me and I wanna play Quake 2 in my backyard this Spring. And it should be super versatile for taking to other people's houses to show off Alyx, the future is almost here!!!!!!!!!!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 17:57    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Dec 2019 18:00    Post subject:
Of course it's not.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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