Duke Nukem Forever (Gearbox revival)
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Jan 2020 11:01    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Jan 2020 11:24    Post subject:
He's talking about its state in 2001 when they made the trailer. A year later (back in the 00s a year of development was enough to have half a game ready) they had something playable, i. e a game.

The videos that have leaked are from 2002.


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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Jan 2020 15:10    Post subject:
The trailers looked super amibtious and it seems to me they couldn't keep up with technology.

By the time they could have released it, it would have looked extremely outdated so they tried to tackle that as well and obviously that was too much.

Much more realistic today where graphical and gameplay leaps are much smaller.

I mean you can still play Crisis 1 and it looks and plays decently.

A almost 13 year old game.

Meanwhile around the millenium you had games like Half-Life 1 in 1998, Max Payne in 2001 and Half-Life 2 in 2004.

Time moved quickly.

Imagine them releasing a game that looks pretty much like the 2001/2002 trailers when Half-Life 2 came around.

Shame though, it did look like the ultimate Duke Nukem experience. With that special mix of weird.
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Jan 2020 15:26    Post subject:
Amadeus wrote:
The trailers looked super amibtious and it seems to me they couldn't keep up with technology.

By the time they could have released it, it would have looked extremely outdated so they tried to tackle that as well and obviously that was too much.


I disagree.

There was some kind of idea from the company that it had to be an amazing sequel, as well as have next generation graphics ahead of all other games.

When they realised they couldn't complete this in time to be ahead of everyone, they moved to a new engine.


That was their huge mistake, assuming gamers cared that much about graphics.

Even in 2019, 3D Realms released Ion Fury, with DNF 2001 graphics and they did well.

All they had to do is release the game late and it would have been successful enough for a sequel.
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Jan 2020 22:58    Post subject:
Ion Maiden had 1996 graphics and was an actual fun well crafted title. DNF had no redeemable qualities, deleted after 60mins, awful dialog, awful graphics, consolized, mounted gun and car driving shit.. some of the first games that supported gpu's had better graphics and gameplay than DNF.
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jan 2020 23:36    Post subject:
bart5986 wrote:
Amadeus wrote:
The trailers looked super amibtious and it seems to me they couldn't keep up with technology.

By the time they could have released it, it would have looked extremely outdated so they tried to tackle that as well and obviously that was too much.


I disagree.

There was some kind of idea from the company that it had to be an amazing sequel, as well as have next generation graphics ahead of all other games.

When they realised they couldn't complete this in time to be ahead of everyone, they moved to a new engine.


That was their huge mistake, assuming gamers cared that much about graphics.

Even in 2019, 3D Realms released Ion Fury, with DNF 2001 graphics and they did well.

All they had to do is release the game late and it would have been successful enough for a sequel.


Erm no, it wasn't really graphics. It was about big open areas and still having small details AND having a world that could be interacted with in the smallest details.

I used to be on the 3D Realms forums back in the days and Broussard would often talk about how he wanted a real world for Duke to walk around in. Duke 3D was the first FPS that let you do random shit and they wanted to take it several notches further. The problem is that many other FPS games appeared that had interactive elements so they pushed even harder. The graphical splendor wasn't that big a deal but the world had to be convincing and with engines coming and going, each engine letting them do the things the previous couldn't, ... I guess they were tempted too often.

You can see a lot of this in the released DNF: it had a lot of interactive elements. Frankly, with the update that let you have multiple weapons (opposed to the shitty limit when it was released), I had more fun completing it than I do with most modern heavily-scripted FPS games.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2020 20:24    Post subject:
https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/duke-nukem-gearbox-software-sues-3d-realms/

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Gearbox Software, the studio behind the best-selling Borderlands franchise, is suing the parent company of 3D Realms, accusing the creator of the Duke Nukem franchise of breach of contract.

In a third-party complaint, filed Friday in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Tennessee, Gearbox says Apogee Software (which owns 3D Realms) breached their 2009 contract by failing to deliver the Duke Nukem intellectual property “free and clear,” withholding details of a key agreement that impacts Gearbox’s ability to publish (and republish) the franchise’s titles. It’s also alleging 3D Realms has refused to honor an indemnity guarantee that was part of that deal.


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This just keeps going.

EDIT: But I suppose however this gets settled will possibly determine the IP's future if there's more games planned or if Gearbox will keep using Duke as a mascot character mostly.

Although after Duke Nukem Forever the series might not have much of a future or value besides the re-releases of the older Duke3D games plus interest in the older beta builds of Forever and if these could be released or not.


3D Realms doing some retro inspired shooters hmm not sure if they could take legal against Gearbox from how costly that could end up being either or how that would work out or if it's settled out of court under some other deal or terms more favorable to the involved parties or well, Gearbox I suppose mostly.
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In 2008, when I was working for the good folks at Janimation in Dallas Tx,
we were hired by Gearbox to create a vertical slice (an animated version of what the game will look like) for the game "Duke Nukem Begins", a Duke origin story.

I headed up this project, as the director at Janimation, and did a lot of the character development, including the design and modeling of Duke. We poured everything we had into making the most awesome cinematic Janimation had ever created. But unfortunately, we got word the game was canceled due to the legal issues with Duke Nukem at the time.

"Duke Nukem Begins" was never made.

It crushed us, as this was what we thought could help us compete with bigger players in the game trailer market at the time.

Because it is still a piece I am damn proud of, I am releasing it 13 years after its creation. The whole team that worked with me deserves to see this released into the wild.

I hope this somehow resurrects this version of the game by showing the world how awesome it would have been...


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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Aug 2021 19:25    Post subject:
Why would he be proud of that trash lol


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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Aug 2021 21:30    Post subject:
Canceled due to legal issues? Yeah, right.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Aug 2021 21:51    Post subject:
The trailer looks good for its time if we cut the "gameplay". But WTF was the plan with such game ?! It's some kind of a mashup between the good old 'House of the Dead' shooter (or 'Lucky Luke' on PS1 Rolling Eyes ) and the weird 'That's how Mafia works' trailers of Mafia City. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Aug 2021 08:52    Post subject:
Should've kept it hidden away
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th May 2022 14:27    Post subject:
https://duke4.net/duke-nukem-forever-2001-content-4chan-leak/

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Almost every chapter is present in some form. A huge chunk is playable, a huge chunk is block-outs with no enemies. All of the E3 content is there.
Not just the editor, we will be releasing the full source code too.
All weapons are functional with the exception of the chainsaw and the freezer.
Do you have any date on when you are gonna leak it then? June.
The editor works. We also have the engine and UnrealScript source code and have written instructions for compiling it.
Two builds, but only the content for one.
It is Unreal Engine 1, like the final game.
There is no complete game. It was never finished.
The E3 2001 iteration but not the E3 2001 build.
The shrink ray is in the game, it’s the first weapon in slot 4.
The theme is just the Megadeth version. It starts playing as soon as you boot the game.
Bombshell is not visually present in the game at this point, there is a log file showing that her model was deleted.
The strippers can be seen and interacted with when you first enter the club. By the point in the game that was recorded, most of them are dead.


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th May 2022 15:45    Post subject:
That 2001 build looks really decent, really odd they essentially scrapped the entire project. Already better than what Gearbox released. Gearbox is possibly the worst company for this IP, don't expect anything good from Duke while Gearbox owns the rights.
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th May 2022 16:05    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
That 2001 build looks really decent, really odd they essentially scrapped the entire project. Already better than what Gearbox released. Gearbox is possibly the worst company for this IP, don't expect anything good from Duke while Gearbox owns the rights.


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th May 2022 17:46    Post subject:
OH MY FUCKING GOD !!!!!!!
Please god let it be!!!

Why did the leaker announced his plans... sounds stupid.
But it is real.

Looks incredible for 2001/2001 game. Exactly as it does in the amazing trailer. I've watched that trailer thousand times and I am beyond excited now


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 06:34    Post subject:
GUYS ITS OUT


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 06:42    Post subject:
Downloading. Nice surprise, I did not want to wait until June at all Very Happy

https://www.reddit.com/r/dukenukem/comments/um99o9/v_duke_nukem_forever_release_video_games/
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 07:27    Post subject:
NVM


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 07:38    Post subject:
Game

I can confirm it's real and working
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 07:47    Post subject:
Be sure to open DukeForever.ini and set your resolution manually (1440p works great). Also turn vsync on in the same file if everything is going way too fast.

I like how this ~20 year old unreleased, unfinished game still drips more atmosphere than many modern snoozefests.

That music too Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 11:35    Post subject:
There's also a Duke 3d Forever mod, which is very good. It tried to reproduce the game that apeared in the 2001 trailer.

https://www.moddb.com/mods/duke-nukem-forever

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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 13:11    Post subject:
fucking wow Very Happy i so want play that version
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 14:39    Post subject:
it's amazing that often 1-2 modders can make something better than an entire team of so called professionals... you can tell who has genuine love for it and who's just there to make a quick buck and just hating working on it.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 14:46    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 14:52    Post subject:
We live in a society, and so on Razz
Yet, it's accepted by each and every one without as much as the bat of an eye.


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th May 2022 15:34    Post subject:
garus wrote:
Imagine doing something for money that isn't 100% of the time what you love... a concept so foreign I'm sure no one can relate.


Razz even if, its not like it's impossible to still do something very good. i mean i worked as a painter for 15 years, and even if i hated every minute i made sure i put in the work to make the customer happy, it's not like i suddenly turned clueless... they even had the concept here and it was cool.
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