The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don’t always soften the bad things, but vice versa, the bad things don’t always spoil the good things and make them unimportant.
First 10 minutes.
Awful fanservice. Just that. Awful.
Awful writing. Pseudo wanna be philosophical. Tng had it, but it worked for its time. Now it reads like R/imverysmart
Awful choreography. Action is as bad as agents of shield if not worse.
Awful plot. So far. Show could work without fanservice. Without Picard. Could be alias set in federation or some shit.
Awful 80s action exposition.
Only worth watching for Patrick Stewart if you miss him.
Spoilers: ish.
So... Throughout Star trek We had a future of civility, commonality among species and people of various races, religions, beliefs. True good. Only evil was undiscovered, greedy, or violent. But it all fell apart? It all failed?! How?!? I mean it's explained how. But how?!
Well, I liked the first episode. It was pretty much what I expected from Picard (not the nuts and bolts of the story but the overall style and setting).
Spoiler:
If you remember the last episode of TNG it started pretty similar (old man @ his family farm etc.)
Awful trend to criticize the shit out of anything
Awful script always no matter if it's actually good or bad
Awful CG even if not present in material
Awful far-fetchedness in general
Today I didn't even need to use my AK. I gotta say it was a good day. (c) - Ice Cube
FUCK NO WE DON'T. That's exactly why we wanted Star Trek in the first place! Some positivism, some hope, some dream that perhaps one day it won't be like that. Adding drama here and there is fine, but from what I hear, they really gutted Starfleet and basically said "well see, even 400 years in the future, everything is still the same as it is now".
Well, I agree to some extend, but the Roddenberry vision of Star Trek was already in decline with DS9 and the Dominion war. Just remember "In the pale moonlight DS9" episode.
Anyway. I agree that Star Trek was, as a child, a good escapism show into a better future. I am not sure though, that kind of show would still work today. The masses demand drama and action. Remember 2009? That movie was all about action and its the highest grossing Star Trek movie. And honestly, First Contact, which is one of my favourites (the favourite beeing TWOK), was alot about action aswell.
Nowadays, when you do action, it must be over the top choreographed and whatnot.
We're kind of stuck in the past here. Just rewatch the old series and be done with it. Bright future Star Trek was always unbelievably utopian. I loved it, but we're kind of grown out of it.
Bottom line. This Picard show here is as close as we're going to get. I liked it too, as long as I blend out some stuff, its perfectly watcheable if for the memberberries alone.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
But the CGI isn't bad.
The member berries aren't bad, but they're there to have you go member this. Member that. Member jj Abrams did the same thing and audience cheered.
Its 80s movie exposition.
You like commando cause of the one liners, basic plot and terminator helping guys let off some steam. And that's what makes it work. It's clear and basic.
This is that. With Patrick Stewart's voice. Which is always awesome. So it's a fun watch. But the plot is simple, it's pseudo intellectual and it mimics current world politics because reasons. Like the future is doomed to have current world issues and we never fixed anything. Which throws you off cause yeah Picard is right, he did the right thing and politics were bad bad bad so he quit and gave up and retired. But then you're like... But how are the politics bad. Those politics wouldn't happen in my Star trek. A star trek full of hope and peace and bad guys.
If you miss star trek this ain't it. If you miss Patrick Stewart this is it. Mandolorian is more star wars than this is star trek.
Yes, the plot is unbelievably simple and predictable. I think thats what annoys me most.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
Jesus, what's criminal about showing a character getting pulled out of retirement and showing the place he planned to spend his time at?! How. Is. That. Bad?
Today I didn't even need to use my AK. I gotta say it was a good day. (c) - Ice Cube
the fact the destruction of mars was shown in like 2 second flashes, which could have been an awesome like battle n scene and plot which should have been shown to use much more in this pilot rather then the teen superpower bullshit , they cheaped out on us grrr
First episode was okay, about what I was expecting. Stewart was good. Seeing Data again was cool. Effects looked kinda cheap. Some silly action scenes. Potentially an interesting mystery with the reason behind the synth rebellion. I like that there's probably going to be Borg involved. Writing isn't too great but might be passable as long as it doesn't turn into SJW drivel and starts introducing bullshit magic-science-fungus-engines as in Discovery.
In short, I doubt this will ever be amazingly good, but it could still be decent depending in which direction they take it. Will need to see more, but I don't think they can make anything worse than Discovery.
FUCK NO WE DON'T. That's exactly why we wanted Star Trek in the first place! Some positivism, some hope, some dream that perhaps one day it won't be like that. Adding drama here and there is fine, but from what I hear, they really gutted Starfleet and basically said "well see, even 400 years in the future, everything is still the same as it is now".
Well, I agree to some extend, but the Roddenberry vision of Star Trek was already in decline with DS9 and the Dominion war. Just remember "In the pale moonlight DS9" episode.
Anyway. I agree that Star Trek was, as a child, a good escapism show into a better future. I am not sure though, that kind of show would still work today. The masses demand drama and action. Remember 2009? That movie was all about action and its the highest grossing Star Trek movie. And honestly, First Contact, which is one of my favourites (the favourite beeing TWOK), was alot about action aswell.
Nowadays, when you do action, it must be over the top choreographed and whatnot.
We're kind of stuck in the past here. Just rewatch the old series and be done with it. Bright future Star Trek was always unbelievably utopian. I loved it, but we're kind of grown out of it.
Bottom line. This Picard show here is as close as we're going to get. I liked it too, as long as I blend out some stuff, its perfectly watcheable if for the memberberries alone.
Then why did Discovery get such a panning from Trekkies and did the Orville get so much love? The Orville shows it's still viable for a show (with some modern tweaks) like this to exist. Discovery just went all dark, all nasty, all political and it sucks.
Of course it sucks. But there is a difference between „trekkies“ and the general audience. I hated Discover for the very same reasons and I believe it is worse than Picard.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
Will need to see more, but I don't think they can make anything worse than Discovery.
Well it's already better then that crap, characters in discovery are the absolute worst, here at least we have Picard, Data, 7even maybe others.
As shit as discovery is, and as far as it strays from star trek, it still had interesting characters. Sjw and shit didn't make it shit. The writing it. The plot did. The characters though... Interesting.
Grandpa and his fields of barley. Well it can't get any worse, waiting for the blonde chick.
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the fact the destruction of mars was shown in like 2 second flashes, which could have been an awesome like battle n scene and plot which should have been shown to use much more in this pilot rather then the teen superpower bullshit , they cheaped out on us grrr
Finished watching it. If you ignore the silly plot and just watch for background noise, it's decent. It's not star trek. It's Logan with star trek memberberries. Man past his prime, living in his past, struggling with the present. The main girl, the annoying one, is something interesting to look at. At times she looks full Asian, other half she looks Slavic, other times she looks like a mixed Filipino. I can see why she was cast. Racially ambiguous.
Finished watching it. If you ignore the silly plot and just watch for background noise, it's decent. It's not star trek. It's Logan with star trek memberberries. Man past his prime, living in his past, struggling with the present. The main girl, the annoying one, is something interesting to look at. At times she looks full Asian, other half she looks Slavic, other times she looks like a mixed Filipino. I can see why she was cast. Racially ambiguous.
Cant have a man be the star of the show. I figure thats why she was cast
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How. Is. That. Bad?
because the writers were drunk?
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