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spankie
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im just saying some foreigners exploit their protective status. They fuck around and when you say something, they say you are rascist...
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deelix
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 14:58 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | | Stealth88 wrote: | That's how that kind of people is here in Norway.
They come to this country, get shitloads of money from the goverment..
Then they start to kill / beat up people..
They act like some fucking idiots..
They don't work (only living on the money they get from stealing, selling illegal shit (guns, drugs etc)..)..
They show NO RESPECT at all to the norwegian people for what they got/get.. |
I know, but dont set all under the same roof. But most of them yes. I know only one guy, looks pretty gangster, from iran or something, hes happy to be here, and get 5\6 6\6 at school. Not many people like him here 
All is like, norwegians dont like us anyways, so lets became ciminals.
And my teacher asked an kid who had real bad behavior
What would happen if you did that in yoir country
he said The teacher would beat me to death... So wtf..  |
thats exactly theproblem they have that kind of behavior cuz they can get away with it (they are used at dictatorship)we should use some more force and put all these trouble makers in jail. or even better just deport where they came from.
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Ispep
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 15:40 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | im just saying some foreigners exploit their protective status. They fuck around and when you say something, they say you are rascist... |
I know what you are saying, and I don't disagree entirely - however you could twist your words to say exactly the same about white kids living in their own country. It's called youth. I don't hold a grudge against white people for racist behavior towards me whilst I was growing up, I would expect the same courtesy likewise.
My problem with your generalising (and jumping to conclusions) is that it helps to support a feeling that is quickly alienating both sides of the equation. Raising tensions and helping to create a situation where there will be no chance for a simple solution.
| Quote: | | thats exactly theproblem they have that kind of behavior cuz they can get away with it (they are used at dictatorship)we should use some more force and put all these trouble makers in jail. or even better just deport where they came from. |
And what pray tell should we do with the people who are born in that particular country who do exactly the same? Turn a blind eye? Not allow it to affect our bias? It's easier to punish people, particularly kids, that don't look the same, act the same or come from the same place because you have instantly villified them in your head. |
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 16:22 Post subject: |
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| Ispep wrote: | | Quote: | | im just saying some foreigners exploit their protective status. They fuck around and when you say something, they say you are rascist... |
I know what you are saying, and I don't disagree entirely - however you could twist your words to say exactly the same about white kids living in their own country. It's called youth. I don't hold a grudge against white people for racist behavior towards me whilst I was growing up, I would expect the same courtesy likewise.
My problem with your generalising (and jumping to conclusions) is that it helps to support a feeling that is quickly alienating both sides of the equation. Raising tensions and helping to create a situation where there will be no chance for a simple solution.
| Quote: | | thats exactly theproblem they have that kind of behavior cuz they can get away with it (they are used at dictatorship)we should use some more force and put all these trouble makers in jail. or even better just deport where they came from. |
And what pray tell should we do with the people who are born in that particular country who do exactly the same? Turn a blind eye? Not allow it to affect our bias? It's easier to punish people, particularly kids, that don't look the same, act the same or come from the same place because you have instantly villified them in your head. |
fact is people who are actualy born here don't behave that way and have an much lesser crime percentage so you can say what you want but its not going to change the facts and the percentages. mostly folks from Marroco causing trouble in the Netherlands.
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Ispep
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 16:30 Post subject: |
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"There are three types of lies; lies, damn lies, and statistics."
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Swinefur
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deelix
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MAD_MAX333
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Feb 2006 20:11 Post subject: |
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| Ispep wrote: | | Quote: | | lol don't OMG me... i SEE these things everyday, i'm sorry if i notice which groups of population i see creating the most problems for everyone... |
I guess reading my post was a little too difficult right?
Like I said; wish I went to your schools.
| Quote: | | it aint rascist to say the facts. |
Facts? Where are the facts? All I'm seeing are past accounts from people who clearly aren't removing their bias. Furthmore 'facts' as you have them are only a part of a story, they don't actually tell the story as you'd like to make out nor form the conclusion, they are a reason for investigation only.
| Quote: | As a black, call a white a white, you are cool
As a white, call a black a black, and you are rascist. |
So sayeth the insecure white man. Yes. So sayeth the ignorant white man with an agenda also. Don't know what I mean? You probably never will. Continue to hold onto your soundbites of wisdom. |
are you slow?? I HAVE taken sociology in college along with psychology and they have nothing with my argument... as law enforcement, we get to meet the trouble sum area of the population AND get to see police report stats of the entire city (although it's technically illegal) and that is what i am basing my arguments on.. I’m never going to be so stupid as to say "all black people are or middle easterners are troublesome, deport em all back to their home countries" cause that is just stupid... but i do see the crime stats and AGAIN I’m sorry that those two groups are at the for front of causing problems.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Sun, 19th Feb 2006 00:02 Post subject: |
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| MAD_MAX333 wrote: | | Ispep wrote: | | Quote: | | lol don't OMG me... i SEE these things everyday, i'm sorry if i notice which groups of population i see creating the most problems for everyone... |
I guess reading my post was a little too difficult right?
Like I said; wish I went to your schools.
| Quote: | | it aint rascist to say the facts. |
Facts? Where are the facts? All I'm seeing are past accounts from people who clearly aren't removing their bias. Furthmore 'facts' as you have them are only a part of a story, they don't actually tell the story as you'd like to make out nor form the conclusion, they are a reason for investigation only.
| Quote: | As a black, call a white a white, you are cool
As a white, call a black a black, and you are rascist. |
So sayeth the insecure white man. Yes. So sayeth the ignorant white man with an agenda also. Don't know what I mean? You probably never will. Continue to hold onto your soundbites of wisdom. |
are you slow?? I HAVE taken sociology in college along with psychology and they have nothing with my argument... as law enforcement, we get to meet the trouble sum area of the population AND get to see police report stats of the entire city (although it's technically illegal) and that is what i am basing my arguments on.. I’m never going to be so stupid as to say "all black people are or middle easterners are troublesome, deport em all back to their home countries" cause that is just stupid... but i do see the crime stats and AGAIN I’m sorry that those two groups are at the for front of causing problems. |
Well, I will agree with the fact that some of the crime that happens in Toronto, is done by blacks - and yeah, gives all of us a bad fuckin name, especially rasta's (or ppl with dreads or a 'black' look).
But, knowing what i know about the criminal element in Toronto and such, metro police shouldnt be worried so much about the black gangs around my area and scarbourgh (spelling?) and shit. The cops should be worried about the pakistani drug husslers (who do u think runs the grow ops in peel?) and about the korean/vitnamese organizations. There will always be street gangs. The cops need to take out the ppl supplying the guns and the drugs and the counterfit bills - which are the asians and the pakistani's/hindu's.
Im being specific as I dont want to generalize and say 'arabs' or 'middle eastern ppl'...the ppl i read about gettin arrested and things i hear when im out and about are far more specific, its not the persians, indians, egyptions etc, its the paki's/hindu (and no, i dont mean that in an offensive mannor, its short form and thats what we say around here - like ppl from Newfoundland are Newfies...ppl from Pakistan are called paki's. again, not in a racial slur sort of way, just short form/slang).
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