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| Posted: Sun, 5th Apr 2020 02:42 Post subject: |
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Just completed, total playtime was 10 hours. Honestly I loved it, good length, good mix of puzzles, story-telling and shooter. It's obviously the most polished best looking VR game to date, i like they showed restraint and didn't go overboard trying to add half-baked features and fail like a lot of VR titles do. To elaborate:
- Played the whole thing with trackpad locomotion and could do so for several hours without feeling queezy. I don't know if it's the speed, level design or way they handle strafed movement, there is no vignetting effect.. anyway it was a good experience.
- Went with one-handed weapons, too handed sucks without a physical stock and you can't adjust a physical stock while playing through a game. I have a makeshift one for playing Onward, you set it up for 1 particular weapon and use that load-out the whole time you play. Holding two hands freely in the air sucks, so I'm glad they avoided that.
- It's the first time I've seen the head clipping handled properly. The way they have implemented it here should be standard in every VR title. You shouldn't be able to put your head through a wall or door and they have that sorted out.
- 3d audio as already mentioned, i've got the deluxe audio strap (I presume the speakers arn't that great?), overhead noise, people talking from other rooms, panning of sound effects etc it really is incredible what they've done here.
- I think keeping the control scheme simple worked quite well, they havn't gone overboard with the mechanics, there is enough interaction with the weapons and world to keep you interested.
Anyway looking forward to replay with index controllers one day.
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| Posted: Mon, 6th Apr 2020 23:44 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Apr 2020 00:29 Post subject: |
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Fascinating stuff, thanks for posting. I went with continuous locomotion and occasionally used the teleport to navigate some obstacles. I didn't notice until it was pointed out, the work put into the teleport sounds considering weight and vertical movement.
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Apr 2020 01:17 Post subject: |
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I played with blink teleport because I wanted to have the most comfortable experience for my first playthrough, as I learn how the game plays. I will replay it soon with continuous locomotion.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Apr 2020 19:39 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Apr 2020 20:31 Post subject: |
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i use blink teleport as well, blink without the fade to black works too but the others make me sick within a few seconds
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bxrdj
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Apr 2020 22:07 Post subject: |
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great, this game ruined pretty much every other game for me. Anything else is like a joke now
fuck ...
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Apr 2020 22:32 Post subject: |
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Yeah i miss real fps games for sure, mp and open world looter shit is awfuul..
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2020 00:35 Post subject: |
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| bxrdj wrote: | | great, this game ruined pretty much every other game for me. Anything else is like a joke now |
yep. Every other vr game is a joke now. Maybe Robo Recall is still pretty okish.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2020 08:04 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2020 08:10 Post subject: |
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Thats gonna be a nightmare. He only of course did the same simple things through the video. Picking up objects and throwing them.... Did we need 3 mins of that? how about tackling puzzles and shooting too
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2020 08:32 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Thats gonna be a nightmare. He only of course did the same simple things through the video. Picking up objects and throwing them.... Did we need 3 mins of that? how about tackling puzzles and shooting too |
I usually just skip through game-play on mute for game reviews, admit VR reviews in particular are the absolute fucking worst for the annoying reviewer tooling around instead of showcasing a game.
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2020 20:01 Post subject: |
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| AmpegV4 wrote: | | Stormwolf wrote: | | Thats gonna be a nightmare. He only of course did the same simple things through the video. Picking up objects and throwing them.... Did we need 3 mins of that? how about tackling puzzles and shooting too |
I usually just skip through game-play on mute for game reviews, admit VR reviews in particular are the absolute fucking worst for the annoying reviewer tooling around instead of showcasing a game. |
Out of professional interest, exactly how should a reviewer show a VR game, in order to 'showcase' it? Genuine question.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2020 20:50 Post subject: |
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Ended up watching a playthrough of this for the story, as I doubt I'll be able to get a VR setup anytime soon.
Biggest issue for me is not so much the cost, but the amount of space required for roomscale. I'd probably have to move a lot of stuff around in my apartment to have a viable play area.
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2020 20:57 Post subject: |
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| Steelone wrote: | Ended up watching a playthrough of this for the story, as I doubt I'll be able to get a VR setup anytime soon.
Biggest issue for me is not so much the cost, but the amount of space required for roomscale. I'd probably have to move a lot of stuff around in my apartment to have a viable play area. |
You need nothing but reaching space - roomscale is not required. Hell you can play this game sitting down - there's even a setting for it!
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2020 21:27 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Apr 2020 22:06 Post subject: |
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I think on an Occulus Rift, you can't use Steam VR to draw out your space, instead using the Occulus version. There was a guide that may have been posted here on how to play the game sitting down that had the Steam VR drawing room info in it but I could not for the life of me find out how to set that up in Steam VR. I even searched Steam's forums where other people mentioned it but couldn't figure out why. So I assume it's due to the Occulus software because my son has a Vive and he has the option in the settings of Steam VR
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Apr 2020 00:09 Post subject: |
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| Kaltern wrote: | | AmpegV4 wrote: | | Stormwolf wrote: | | Thats gonna be a nightmare. He only of course did the same simple things through the video. Picking up objects and throwing them.... Did we need 3 mins of that? how about tackling puzzles and shooting too |
I usually just skip through game-play on mute for game reviews, admit VR reviews in particular are the absolute fucking worst for the annoying reviewer tooling around instead of showcasing a game. |
Out of professional interest, exactly how should a reviewer show a VR game, in order to 'showcase' it? Genuine question. |
Sure, the way the Valve developer plays the game in the locomotion video at the top is a good example. From the video and my thoughts on VR review:
- Put the game on easy, play through the same area's several times so you can capture good demo footage, see the above gun battles by the crane are almost choreographed.
- Number #1, do not juggle banana's, staplers, throw shit around and be a retard for 10-15 minutes because VR. I want to find out about the game, not watch derpo's first steps in VR.
- Also the 2D VR counterpart does not capture everything that you see in VR therefore jerky head movements and not centering the headset on what your talking about is a real pain as a viewer. You need to avoid the awful shaky cam movie feel as much as possible.
- Edit the material to reinforce what your talking about, if you want to talk about the gun mechanics, show the interaction that can be had and edit it so you get your message across clearly and as quickly as possible. This is very important and some people get it right, If your calling out texture pop-in > back it up with 2-3 4-5second examples, aim to be less subjective i guess.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Apr 2020 09:52 Post subject: |
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| AmpegV4 wrote: | | Kaltern wrote: | | AmpegV4 wrote: |
I usually just skip through game-play on mute for game reviews, admit VR reviews in particular are the absolute fucking worst for the annoying reviewer tooling around instead of showcasing a game. |
Out of professional interest, exactly how should a reviewer show a VR game, in order to 'showcase' it? Genuine question. |
Sure, the way the Valve developer plays the game in the locomotion video at the top is a good example. From the video and my thoughts on VR review:
- Put the game on easy, play through the same area's several times so you can capture good demo footage, see the above gun battles by the crane are almost choreographed.
- Number #1, do not juggle banana's, staplers, throw shit around and be a retard for 10-15 minutes because VR. I want to find out about the game, not watch derpo's first steps in VR.
- Also the 2D VR counterpart does not capture everything that you see in VR therefore jerky head movements and not centering the headset on what your talking about is a real pain as a viewer. You need to avoid the awful shaky cam movie feel as much as possible.
- Edit the material to reinforce what your talking about, if you want to talk about the gun mechanics, show the interaction that can be had and edit it so you get your message across clearly and as quickly as possible. This is very important and some people get it right, If your calling out texture pop-in > back it up with 2-3 4-5second examples, aim to be less subjective i guess. |
That's what I quite liked about the playthrough I watched, the guy got all the immersion breaking nonsense out of his system in the first 10 minutes, after that he just focused on gameplay.
Also, most importantly, no commentary. Nothing more frustrating than some twitch streamer spouting memes every .5 seconds. |
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Update 1.2.1 released: https://steamcommunity.com/games/546560/announcements/detail/2215150252140464665
| Quote: | Half-Life: Alyx Update 1.2.1 released
Changes:
Fixes for issues with carrying contained objects (e.g. objects in a crate).
Fix for hand orientation on Windows MR and Vive systems.
Fix for some missing haptic feedback on Windows MR and Vive systems.
Fix for controller systems that don't have support for skeletal hand animation.
Fix for exhausting GPU memory on Proton.
Fix for several crashes.
Fix for not properly falling back to English subtitles when selecting a language in Steam that is unsupported by Half-Life: Alyx.
Improved rendering of Japanese narrow subtitles.
Fixed a regression which rendered an empty subtitle panel even if the subtitles were only visible in the spectator window.
Localization improvements in multiple supported languages. |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2020 20:46 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/fwepnw/halflife_alyx_september_2019_build_videos/ |
Seen this live. The guy is a fucking idiot. He is showing it around like and being super douchy about it
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2020 22:06 Post subject: |
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Sounds like Tyler.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Apr 2020 06:35 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Apr 2020 06:40 Post subject: |
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| tet666 wrote: | | https://www.dsogaming.com/news/first-non-vr-mod-for-half-life-alyx-that-lets-you-complete-the-entire-game-is-available-for-download/ |
niiice. Some VR owners were triggered by the idea of a mod like this "wah wah not how it's supposed to be played REEEEEE"
Most of us just want to see how the story plays out and fuck around with source 2, I ain't shelling out $1060 for the full experience bruh.
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Apr 2020 06:41 Post subject: |
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Looks like a pain in the ass still. Will wait some more and maybe someone refines it.
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russ80
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Apr 2020 07:18 Post subject: |
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| FireMaster wrote: | | tet666 wrote: | | https://www.dsogaming.com/news/first-non-vr-mod-for-half-life-alyx-that-lets-you-complete-the-entire-game-is-available-for-download/ |
niiice. Some VR owners were triggered by the idea of a mod like this "wah wah not how it's supposed to be played REEEEEE"
Most of us just want to see how the story plays out and fuck around with source 2, I ain't shelling out $1060 for the full experience bruh. |
When people say ‘that’s not how it’s supposed to be played’ they mostly mean the game will suck and not be the revolution that is in VR. All the physical interactions will be gone in 2d, the ‘horror’ elements, the fights will be boring and spread out with too few enemies , the pacing will feel off. The game design in VR vs 2d is completely different and will never translate well from one another.
The story? I guess if you care that much about the story...
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