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DV2




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 00:24    Post subject: Looking for a new build
Today marks the death of my ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING (Due to both A RAM channels dying due to trying XMP for the 2nd time and no chance of repairing) after around 5 years of owning 2... It is time to upgrade and it hurts me a big lot.

Previous build:
ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING
Intel 6700K
Crucial BALLISTIX 1 stick 16GB DDR4 3000mhz CL16 (Had a 2nd one but died due to the XMP thing above)

The rest of components seems to work just fine, wich are:
Corsair AX860W PSU +80 Plus Platinum
GIGABYTE 2070 RTX Super White OC
2 SSD + 1 HDD (SSD for OS, SSD for backup, HDD for big downloads)
DVD Burner
Thermaltake Frio OCK (CPU Cooler)
Windows 10 Pro 1909 build
Thermaltake Core V71 (Full ATX tower)

New build purposes:
-Real gaming (no Fortnite nor Minecraft. Think of DOOM ETERNAL and any other upcoming demanding games)

-Adobe Photoshop CC 2017 + illustrator CC 2020 + Premiere Pro CC 2020 + Paint Tool SAI 2 + sometimes Clip Studio Paint Pro

-Handbrake
-Office 2019
-Nvidia GeForce Experience recordings
-Pinnacle Studio 12 (TV Recording using an external USB Device from Pinnacle itself. VERY IMPORTANT APP/HARDWARE!!)

Important notes for new build:

-I am NOT going to overclock anything. NEVER AGAIN. I don't want to kill another motherboard.

-RAM that i get must reach it's Mhz WITHOUT OVERCLOCKING . X570 motherboards have specs saying that they can reach 3200mhz without OC, yet some people says to get 3000mhz for a safe spot, besides of "Latest BIOS update fixes a 3200mhz issue".

-Must have a lot of actual generation USB ports behind the tower (USB 3.2, 3.1?..). I use 5 (Logitech gaming Mouse and Keyboard, Pinnacle Studio device, External HDD and PS4 Capture device). It must also have a Type-C port incase i get a Type C External HDD one day.


-Since i'll have to buy a new CPU Cooler, and since i won't overclock, i want it to have space for the RAM clearance, so it fits without issues (Normally 2 sticks of 16GB RAM each). It can be with or without LEDs/RGB

My thoughts on components...Since AMD has been the king of everything as for late, i was going to head on a X570 motherboard (To evade the "Use an old RYZEN CPU to update the BIOS" on B450 boards, get it?)..

Motherboard: ASUS X570 PRIME PRO (270€)
CPU: AMD RYZEN 3700x (325,90€)
RAM: Crucial BALLISTIX 2x16GB DDR4 3000mhz or 3200mhz CL16 ( 175-188€) (Had a Corsair LPX and it gave loads of BOSD trouble)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED. (40€)

If you have better ideas for the 4 elements above (Intel / AMD CPU for my purposes, RAM, CPU Cooler) please let me know. Remember: NO OVERCLOCKING + RAM speeds should be met without OC/XMP if possible!.

Doubts:

-Regarding AMD, i've heard that 1st time booting might require various reboots or loops to load or set/configure the components. Is it true?

-Other people says that AMD motherboards sometimes boots on the 1st time but other times it'd force the users to reboot manually because the PC won't post or show the brand's logo or something. Is it true?


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 00:27    Post subject:
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DV2




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 00:39    Post subject:
Like i said, i will not overclock the new motherboard at all. Don't insist on that, please. I don't want to have any more problems.

The last thing i fear would be to update the BIOS and not having the PC boot at all even at default settings


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 01:06    Post subject:
Get a MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX, the BIOS is 3000 series compatible out of the box (no need to update). It will run 3200mhz RAM just fine.


chiv wrote:
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 01:28    Post subject:
<DV2>I am asking for help but will not listen and buy the exact opposite of what is recommended to me.</DV2>
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 03:05    Post subject:
If your not interested in clocking whatsoever, then an 'non-K' Intel chip will keep the cost down, as will a motherboard that is not built for overclocking.

Why are you then picking one? - ASUS X570 PRIME PRO? You can get a lot cheaper boards out there if your not into tweaking the BIOS settings.

I'm not gonna recommend anything, if your looking at going the AMD route, as one, I know fuck all about them, and two, I would probably never buy one, no matter how many cores the CPU had Wink

A Ryzen would probably more suit you though, with the software you have listed.
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 06:11    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
<DV2>I am asking for help but will not listen and buy the exact opposite of what is recommended to me.</DV2>


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

How many times DV2 is asking anything and yet he does his own thing. Laughing Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 10:25    Post subject:
Just my 2 cents:

- Motherboard: If you don't overclock get a B450 series ( MSI tomahawk is very good and has a reasonable price ) or try searching the new B550 boards ( more future proof ). They are cheaper and do the service very well.
- CPU: 3800X, it's more 20/30€ but higher frequency ( 3,9Ghz out of the box ) ( 328,64 € in Amazon Spain )
- RAM: Anything compatible with you board. Just check reddit or youtube and see what people suggest.
- Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34 Esports Duo. Same price better cooling.


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DV2




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 10:26    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
If your not interested in clocking whatsoever, then an 'non-K' Intel chip will keep the cost down, as will a motherboard that is not built for overclocking.

Why are you then picking one? - ASUS X570 PRIME PRO? You can get a lot cheaper boards out there if your not into tweaking the BIOS settings.

I'm not gonna recommend anything, if your looking at going the AMD route, as one, I know fuck all about them, and two, I would probably never buy one, no matter how many cores the CPU had Wink

A Ryzen would probably more suit you though, with the software you have listed.


1.People have been saying that RYZEN are taking over the market , that are better than intel (Less heat, more cores for the buck, etc) , that when compared to Intel, there are minimal % difference in gaming, but are much better when it comes to other tasks.. That's why i wanted to go the RYZEN route but asking for guiding.

2.Why do you suggest an Intel non-k one?. Non-K with 8 cores runs at 3ghz while a K one runs at 3,6Ghz. (9700-9700K). Also, Z390 motherboards only reach 2133mhz without OC while Ryzen X570 reaches up to 3000-3200mhz.

Explain me those 2 parts, please.


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 10:27    Post subject:
At least someone who finally got some common sense - OC-ing shortens lifespan of your hardware drastically.

And: I bought a new PC for work for graphical design so it seems to meet your demands and I went with a Ryzen7 3700X which is remarkably faster than my current Intel CPU (i7 8700). X570 motherboard + 32GB of 3200Mhz RAM and you're set.
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 10:37    Post subject:
gandamaluco wrote:
Just my 2 cents:

- Motherboard: If you don't overclock get a B450 series ( MSI tomahawk is very good and has a reasonable price ) or try searching the new B550 boards ( more future proof ). They are cheaper and do the service very well.
- CPU: 3800X, it's more 20/30€ but higher frequency ( 3,9Ghz out of the box ) ( 328,64 € in Amazon Spain )
- RAM: Anything compatible with you board. Just check reddit or youtube and see what people suggest.
- Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34 Esports Duo. Same price better cooling.


1.The thing is that i want as many USB ports behind, atleast 7 or 8, including a Type-C one. MSI one is too tight for what i connect. Besides we don't have B550 boards over here yet, only B450.

2.3800x has a 50€ difference over here

3.I'd head for the Crucial mentioned above

4. Would a noctua-nh-u12s-chromaxblack work too?.I kinda don't like the looks on the Arctic.


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 10:39    Post subject:
red_avatar wrote:
At least someone who finally got some common sense - OC-ing shortens lifespan of your hardware drastically.

And: I bought a new PC for work for graphical design so it seems to meet your demands and I went with a Ryzen7 3700X which is remarkably faster than my current Intel CPU (i7 8700). X570 motherboard + 32GB of 3200Mhz RAM and you're set.


Wich X570 do you have?. Does your RAM reaches their max speed in the BIOS without touching any XMP etc?. Also, have you updated your BIOS?


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 10:57    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
gandamaluco wrote:
Just my 2 cents:

- Motherboard: If you don't overclock get a B450 series ( MSI tomahawk is very good and has a reasonable price ) or try searching the new B550 boards ( more future proof ). They are cheaper and do the service very well.
- CPU: 3800X, it's more 20/30€ but higher frequency ( 3,9Ghz out of the box ) ( 328,64 € in Amazon Spain )
- RAM: Anything compatible with you board. Just check reddit or youtube and see what people suggest.
- Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34 Esports Duo. Same price better cooling.


1.The thing is that i want as many USB ports behind, atleast 7 or 8, including a Type-C one. MSI one is too tight for what i connect. Besides we don't have B550 boards over here yet, only B450.

2.3800x has a 50€ difference over here

3.I'd head for the Crucial mentioned above

4. Would a noctua-nh-u12s-chromaxblack work too?.I kinda don't like the looks on the Arctic.


1. ASUS TUF GAMING X570-PLUS? plenty of usb and around that price. My personal opinion? OVERkill.
2. Can't you buy from abroad? Taxes?
3.
4. More expensive almost same results ( Since you don't overclock ).
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 11:35    Post subject:
1. Should work too. Would my Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super White hit the chipset heatsink? (Covering)

2. Taxes indeed..

3. ?... Besides, the Mobo doesn't have the Crucial memory i've listed BL2K16G32C16U4B but the Crucial site , when choosing the TUF mentioned, has a compatibility with the RAM above. I did the same with my Z170 and the RAM i had and worked without issues

4.Can ya tell me more alternatives to the Arctic one, please?

Just one question.. Because i am losing my head. Honestly, if you had a Z170 and had to upgrade, wich one would you choose?. Intel or AMD?. Specially if you game and do other works.


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 12:09    Post subject:
Get AMD platform, even ryzen 3600 would be good upgrade and cheap, however new Zen 3 cpus are coming later this year. Your GPU will not affect chipset temps, mine is completely covered and the fan is set to lowest possible, runs at around 55c max.
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 12:22    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Get AMD platform, even ryzen 3600 would be good upgrade and cheap, however new Zen 3 cpus are coming later this year. Your GPU will not affect chipset temps, mine is completely covered and the fan is set to lowest possible, runs at around 55c max.


So far the pieces i'd get would be:

1. X570 TUF GAMING PLUS (Saves 40€)
2. 3700x
3. Crucial Ballistix 3200 DDR4 32GB 2x16GB CL16 BL2K16G32C16U4B (It's not in the QVL but Crucial's site shows as compatible with the TUF above)

4.This is the important part left, the cooler. It's said on a YT vid that the covering of the Arctic mentioned abot is a tad bit smaller than the RYZEN 3600 (as an example from the vid). Wouldn't that create issues?. Hence why i ask for the alternatives

Sorry for the many questions but i want to make sure that i don't fuck it up, besides of being able to order the parts today to get 'em tomorrow or tuesday.

Just remember: NO XMP , NO OVERCLOCKING EVER AGAIN.. Keep that in mind


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 12:39    Post subject:
Since I'm no hardware guru and don't want to give you bad advices I recommend to check a few videos or links:

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2. Customs taxes? I've bought several hardware from abroad and never paid extra taxes ( Portugal ). For that money the 3800X is a good out of the box cpu.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1899-ryzen-3800x-vs-3700x-difference/ the difference is not much BUT for the same money... ( I know, it's more €50 where you live Very Happy ).
You'll only notice the difference on heavy workloads.
Also, 3800X is TDP 105w, more hungry.
3. Ram wise... " AMD recommends you keep this clocked to around 3,600/3,733MHz for the performance sweet spot. " on that type of board.
But choose wisely. Stable is better then fast ( my opinion ).
4. Yes, what you mention is right. Maybe Noctua NH-D15. Everyone speaks marvellous from this cooler. ( If I'm not wrong 3700X brings a stock cooler and if you don't overclock maybe is enough? )
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 13:03    Post subject:
1.I'd keep the TUF one. However there's a doubt in my head. To begin with, my Z170 is supposed to not have WiFI. However, i have an HP ENVY 4508 printer that has WiFi and whenever i installed it after a format i'd install it via USB first, then add support later on via WiFi

The Ethernet CAT6 GIGABIT cable's connected to the MoBo's Ethernet port (With W10's auto settings, nothing like IPv4 manual settings) and i was able to send documents to print via WiFi.

Can i still do the same with the new motherboard without issues?

Also, will i have problems with apps or games?.. Heard APEX or DESTINY 2 (Wich i don't play but heard the news) had troubles to run with RYZEN CPUs.

2.I'll consider the 3800x then.. For those 200mhz might be worth it, hopefully.

3. I repeat, i'd get the Crucial one and not touch the frigging XMP nor Overclocking at all... I won't touch the BIOS updates neither unless there's a reason for it.. If it works out of the box, leave it at that.

4. I need a better cooling solution, besides of reducing the noise. Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black that is then (The noctua you said is ENORMOUS)

5. New point: Intel VS Realtek Ethernet. The TUF board has a Realtek Ethernet port instead of the Intel one from my Z170. Will it perform the same or better?.. While the Prime has Intel LAN. (Online posts says that Realtek might've issues)

What do you think about this then?..


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 15:27    Post subject:
The forum should have a chat box or a Discord... Very Happy

I think you can use both ways ( ethernet or wi-fi ). It's up to your preference.
I don't have printer for more then 15 years. I once setup a wi-fi printer on a friends house and was very easy and after he never complained.
DV2 the money is yours so it's you who has the final word.
Al the problems you eared about games or apps it's because they are not optimized for Ryzen. It's not AMD fault.
If you use apps who use multi-core you'll notice the difference. If you want only for gaming choose an expensive Intel cpu.
My opinion... Ryzen all the way ( I have an 2600X on a B450M board ). On multi-tasking it's really great. If do not want spend to much then choose the 3700X.
On the Ram a little side note... The Ram I have by default only appears at 2333Mhz in the BIOS. I have to choose the right speed ( 3000Mhz ) in the BIOS settings. I'm not using XMP. I don't know if all brands or BIOS work that way.
The coolers I recommend are all high profile. If you don't want any of this just buy U12S.
My Board also uses Realtek, 0 problems since I assembled the machine ( 1 and half year ).
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 15:29    Post subject:
Understood. I'll order right away then.. You say Realtek Ethernet doesn't have issues. I'll trust ya on that. What about Realtek audio?.. I use them and no issues so far (From the CD though)

EDIT: Finally ordered it. Everything costed 865,83€ in the end. Tuesday i'll let you know what happens...


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 15:38    Post subject:
No issues on Lan and Audio.
Always worked very well.
Just a quick question, It's urgent to buy the stuff?
Since there are new boards coming and latter in the year there'll be new Cpus from AMD in my view you should wait a few months ( B550 boards, new and refreshed 3xxx cpus ).
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 15:46    Post subject:
gandamaluco wrote:
No issues on Lan and Audio.
Always worked very well.
Just a quick question, It's urgent to buy the stuff?
Since there are new boards coming and latter in the year there'll be new Cpus from AMD in my view you should wait a few months ( B550 boards, new and refreshed 3xxx cpus ).



Again, for me it was urgent because i need the 2 RAM sticks in dual channel to work and not just one. And since the Mobo was dying i wanted to get a new and better one... And i want to prevent any kind of drama.

RYZEN 3800x + Crucial Ballistix 2x16GB DDR4 3200mhz CL16, the Noctua single fan one, and the TUF one (Without the WiFI) in the end

I hope that the new jump will give me benefits in what i do and not get any kind of BSODs again.. I've chosen the Non-WiFi option because i've read online that this one (WiFi) would cause issues when trying to format and install W10, telling ya to disable network things up on the BIOS but you'd need to update the BIOS anyways.


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 15:48    Post subject:
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@DV2
I don't think you should be overclocking though. Today's HW is fast enough out-of-the-box.

Overclocking only breaks stuff after a few years. You should really consider going 100% stock-clocked this time around.

But hey, I'm not gonna tell you what to do or not. If you wanna go OC, knock yourself out... Rolling Eyes


Not going to overclock nor XMP at all. Screw that. If i do that the only issues i'll get is another dead mobo and BSODs

The only thing i will do is update the BIOS to the latest version to fix issues and the faster booting times they say. Everybody on the net says that to new X570 boards, to update the BIOS first before doing anything


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 16:03    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
Well as long as you don't overclock I think you should be fine.

I don't think anything could possibly break or cause any problems, IF and ONLY IF you don't overclock.

So it should be smooth sailing for you from now on forward...


The only things i'll do whenever i get the board would be to update it to the actual BIOS first, then reset the BIOS settings to defaults, then install W10. Work my way installing the apps etc and check if they work.

If nothing bad happens, then welcome aboard...Without OC, that is. Ganda says he just chosen the speed in the BIOS and that is, but in the MoBo specs it says "OC" if you go above 2666mhz.. So yeah, that's OCing and no, i won't touch that at all. Sorry.


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 16:06    Post subject:
When you finish the build please share a photo Cool
You won't regret for the choice ( Ryzen ), it'll be night and day difference if the apps you use take benefit of the multi-core even if you are not overclocking.
I don't regret any cent I spent in my rig.
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 16:13    Post subject:
Ganda, tell me something. You seem to own the same mobo you've recommended me, the TUF GAMING PLUS X570, right?.. If so, did you updated the BIOS the moment you got it, or did you installed W10 then updated the BIOS?.. If ya installed W10 without BIOS update, did ya had any issues when installing? (SSD detection, BSODs, etc)

Anything ya can say to help me out just in case?. Sorry for making this topic long but , but better be prepared than DOA


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 16:23    Post subject:
No DV2, I have a MSI B450M Gaming Plus paired with an 2600X.
I already updated the BIOS twice after the windows install ( memory was working in single channel ) and everything worked well. I can update this board even without cpu ( VIA USB stick and press a button in the back ).
Just check with your vendor if they know which BIOS the board has and see if there is any after that and read the change log ( Most times it's not needed to update the BIOS unless there is new CPU and RAM ).
I'm quite sure that board is good for the hardware you gonna buy out of the box.

EDIT: Before installing a BIOS always read the feedback from people. It's what I usually do.
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th May 2020 16:33    Post subject:
It's an online retailer of trust but they don't say wich version comes out of the box. I thought all mobos tends to come with the initial day of release's BIOS instead of updated ones, or so i've been told here previously?

Well, i'm saying the BIOS thing due to this "AGESA 1.0.0.4/5" included in them that fixes things up and speeds up the booting time...However it seems that this AGESA isn't coming for the TUF i bought.. Only 1.0.0.3 so far and well, that worries me some.

Also hopefully i reach the 60MB/s of DL/UL of the Realtek Ethernet..Yep, i have the Gigabit Ethernet CAT6 cable already with my actual Z170 buiild to reach such speeds.


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