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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 14:53 Post subject: |
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| Yuri wrote: | | TheZorina wrote: |
Yellow journalism/tabloids might have struggled to durably keep financially afloat in a more acute way before, but they have persisted since their birth and have always found their audience, even with their ups and downs. |
True but as I said before back these papers didn't tend to stay alive for too long. It's just that they were replaced by others as is the cyclical nature of tabloids except now they can just as well rely on patreon/gofundme/google adsense etc etc to stay desperately alive like a cockroach after a nuclear holocaust.
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This is where I don't really agree with this whole "old guard" retiring idea.. A lot of this reads like feelings about a jolly time when journalism was better and heartfelt (there were some wake-up calls moments like this in the history of journalism ), but I would like to see it backed up with cold hard facts. An "old guard" that is in fact the result of a long filtering process which crowned them as said "guard" can easily judge a new generation for which said filtering process hasn't even begun. |
Guuurl noooo, you're misconstruing the point of this paragraph. When I say "old guard", I mean the more older people who stuck through the times stubbornly or didn't want to change their field and thus became more experienced. I don't think of them as people passing through any judgements or purity tests etc etc. There is no glorifying the olden times nor is there any nostalgia about the "jolly time(s)" as you say nor is there any judgement. Well, other than the whole "in my time we didn't use computers" thing that keeps happening every half a decade or so but that's another story. Regarding the job changes, I had some links from before that showed this trend of journos moving on after a decade. Will post when I find them or you can check the trends in some of those job sites. Mainly due to the stagnant money and censorship/lack of freedom due to the company policies or stakeholders. Back when I was a tech reporter, I personally saw many people I knew from other organisations move to the other side i.e PR and join either the firms or the the communication departments of tech companies.
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Most studies show that the field still sees more males working than females in paper (or online paper) media, while there seems to be a majority of females ( 60/40 usually ) in journalism schools.
Hard to do this without compiling a lot of different studies, which I don't have the time for, but it was just to show how his figures were pulled from his as... unbiased empirical analysis. Same thing for "females make the worst mistakes". But from the following replies, it seems like he won't follow through on that  |
Ah cool. Funny thing, the first fact checker in Times magazine was a lady. I came across this article a few months ago: https://time.com/4858683/fact-checking-history/ . An interesting read, check it out when you have some free time! |
Sorry I didn't reply to this earlier !
We are in agreement about tabloids and stuff 
About the old guard, it's an interesting take that you wrote about, and I would be really thankful if you could scourge for these links ! Sorry that I didn't get it properly and went on a tangent because of it - it never feels good for the receiving end
Maybe people working in journalism don't stick to the job as long as they did before - might be a specific symptom of a larger trend with a more fragile job security/voluntary tendency not to stick to one job/company though. I'm not sure the money was not as stagnant or that the stakeholders back then would leave more freedom to their writers either, but I might be wrong.
That was a very interesting article to read, thanks !  - it's getting harder to find such lengthy articles for free, unfortunately.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 22:58 Post subject: |
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https://github.com/rubocop-hq/rubocop/issues/8091
"Change the name plz, it oppresses me" 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2020 00:35 Post subject: |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Jun 2020 15:01 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Jun 2020 16:44 Post subject: |
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I am willing to accept and would put in effort to change my use of language in favor of better standards, e. g. avoid naming things master/slave, but at the same time I do not understand why someone young today would gasp at finding such names.
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Jun 2020 17:15 Post subject: |
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| TheZorina wrote: |
Sorry I didn't reply to this earlier !
We are in agreement about tabloids and stuff
About the old guard, it's an interesting take that you wrote about, and I would be really thankful if you could scourge for these links ! Sorry that I didn't get it properly and went on a tangent because of it - it never feels good for the receiving end
Maybe people working in journalism don't stick to the job as long as they did before - might be a specific symptom of a larger trend with a more fragile job security/voluntary tendency not to stick to one job/company though. I'm not sure the money was not as stagnant or that the stakeholders back then would leave more freedom to their writers either, but I might be wrong.
That was a very interesting article to read, thanks ! - it's getting harder to find such lengthy articles for free, unfortunately. |
Ah sorry, didn't check the thread for the sake of my sanity which has plummeted thanks to toni's links (robocop , master/slave ). No worries, sometimes a few things get lost in textual communication. The way the marketing team told me, earlier there were limited ways a newspaper could advertise a product i.e an advert in the paper or a paid promotion was how the deals were done. Now with the internet and social media playing a huge role, it's expanded so that's why you'll sometimes see a certain product or company getting mentioned very frequently because they've done a deal to review/preview their new products 3/6/9 (whatever number) over a period of 6 or 12 months. Mostly this doesn't affect the subject matter i.e there's no bias in favour of the product but a few unscrupulous people willing to sell even their soul for a little money will do so. Anyway, will post the links here or send you a pm once I find the salary links.
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Jun 2020 17:26 Post subject: |
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| Yuri wrote: | | TheZorina wrote: |
Sorry I didn't reply to this earlier !
We are in agreement about tabloids and stuff
About the old guard, it's an interesting take that you wrote about, and I would be really thankful if you could scourge for these links ! Sorry that I didn't get it properly and went on a tangent because of it - it never feels good for the receiving end
Maybe people working in journalism don't stick to the job as long as they did before - might be a specific symptom of a larger trend with a more fragile job security/voluntary tendency not to stick to one job/company though. I'm not sure the money was not as stagnant or that the stakeholders back then would leave more freedom to their writers either, but I might be wrong.
That was a very interesting article to read, thanks ! - it's getting harder to find such lengthy articles for free, unfortunately. |
Ah sorry, didn't check the thread for the sake of my sanity which has plummeted thanks to toni's links (robocop , master/slave ). No worries, sometimes a few things get lost in textual communication. The way the marketing team told me, earlier there were limited ways a newspaper could advertise a product i.e an advert in the paper or a paid promotion was how the deals were done. Now with the internet and social media playing a huge role, it's expanded so that's why you'll sometimes see a certain product or company getting mentioned very frequently because they've done a deal to review/preview their new products 3/6/9 (whatever number) over a period of 6 or 12 months. Mostly this doesn't affect the subject matter i.e there's no bias in favour of the product but a few unscrupulous people willing to sell even their soul for a little money will do so. Anyway, will post the links here or send you a pm once I find the salary links. |
 Cheers for that !
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Jun 2020 17:45 Post subject: |
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Anything for the queen 
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Jun 2020 18:24 Post subject: |
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You wait till they make problems about connectors that are male and female... though I think I remember a fuss about that. Not sure it was satire.
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Jun 2020 20:44 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Jun 2020 22:52 Post subject: |
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| paxsali wrote: | Did you know he was my favourite? No?
Me neither, until recently. |
Will thou deny it thrice petersali?! 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Jun 2020 23:34 Post subject: |
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Chunk's wonder woman nephew cosplayer? That Hasan? 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 02:17 Post subject: |
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| paxsali wrote: | I LITERALLY detest all "progressive" youtubers, who touched da peepee.
Only Hasan is still pure. |
Cause, let's be honest for a second, you wanna touch his peepee. |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Jun 2020 14:31 Post subject: |
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He also wasn't cancelled for his horse cock enthusiast remarks... truly the drumpf of utub political commentary xD
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Jun 2020 16:02 Post subject: |
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| paxsali wrote: | | What's wrong with huge, throbbing horse cock? |
It's wrong when it wasn't clear if he would ask the horse for consent. How would the horse let him know, would it neigh at picture of Stalin or something?
Not cool bro 
Anyways:
https://twitter.com/VitoGesualdi/status/1271401350362849280
| Quote: | 'Goodbye Volcano High' is an upcoming PS5 game about gay and nonbinary animal people navigating high school life.
The game's lead writer is Kate Gray, who famously published underage Harry Potter pornography on Kotaku. |
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Jun 2020 17:25 Post subject: |
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Not surprised its voice and presentation on whatever gameshow it was had that weirdo vibe.
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Jun 2020 17:48 Post subject: |
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Goodbye Volcano High is a real game? I thought it was a joke, making fun of the furries?
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