[PS4] The Last of Us Part II
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 17:20    Post subject:
The first game had some of the best writing in video games, it's not fair to say it wasn't anything special in that regard. As for the gameplay, its a matter of taste.
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 17:35    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
The first game had some of the best writing in video games, it's not fair to say it wasn't anything special in that regard. As for the gameplay, its a matter of taste.


Writing? As for story?

Well, for me not. Characterwise I cared for the two main characters as I cared for Mario in super mario bros. or the Doom guy in doom.
As per storywise....since i picked up the game 3 times and it took me a year to finish...


I mean it's a good game and the designers/programmers are really pro doing the game, but
the way the media treats the game is a bit too much. It's nothing fancy, at least I was really disappointed and letdown. I expected something special and what I got was "just another game", but that was probably due to the fact that I was constantly looking for that special something.
Like when starting it and after playing it for an hour or so I was asking myself "ok when comes the spice of the game, the feature that would totally blow my mind...."

And I'm a bit jealous at people who enjoy it so much, because I never could enjoy it that much Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 17:43    Post subject:
Yes high expectations tend to ruin things quite often, luckily I played the game when it came out and didn't read any reviews, so it was a really nice surprise. If everyone keeps telling you how X is the best thing ever, then obviously when you play it, it ll never live up and feel mediocre, I get that.
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 22:18    Post subject:
There will never be a game (or story) that is a perfect 10/10 for absolutely everyone but judging from reviews, TLOU 1 and 2 seem to be as close as you can get. I just finished my third playthrough of the first TLOU and I yet again had a blast. The story and the relationship between Joel and Ellie is among the most memorable in any media for me.
Absolutely hyped for this one! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 22:42    Post subject:
Also loved TLoU story to death. Characters, setting and story was perfect for me. Music is great, i was sitting on menu for 7-8 minutes just to listen to the theme song. As for gameplay.. it's great, nothing out of the ordinary but tight and good combat, it took me about 5 minutes to fall in love with the game.
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 23:38    Post subject:
So all 10/10 now?
The game is really good and not a woke sjw nightmare anymore? I am asking for real since I will get it if it's not bullshit like in leaks.
Sony/ND were real dicks for the last month with all the copyrights strikes and so on. The review embargo is also very restrictive so it's hard to say for sure...
But the reviews are crazy good and I do have the cash right now...


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 03:58    Post subject:
Wokeness is there.
Does it matter if it's a good game?


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 04:06    Post subject:
44 full perfect 10/10s from various outlets

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/06/12/the-last-of-us-part-2-reviews-say-its-the-best-ps4-exclusive-with-44-perfect-scores/#1794381409e3

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The Last Us Part 2 currently has a 96 on both Metacritic and OpenCritic, a deeply impressive score that reflects 44 full perfect 10/10s from various outlets, including heavy hitters like IGN and Game Informer.

That 96 score makes it the best-reviewed PS4 exclusive of the entire generation, putting it above Persona 5 Royal (95), God of War (94), Metal Gear Solid 5 (93) and Uncharted 4 (93). It’s also a tick above The Last of Us Remastered at a 95. The only two PlayStation 4 (or Xbox One, for the matter) games to score higher are Red Dead Redemption at 97, and GTA 5 also at a 97, though that one was cross-gen.


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 04:08    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
So all 10/10 now?
The game is really good and not a woke sjw nightmare anymore? I am asking for real since I will get it if it's not bullshit like in leaks.
Sony/ND were real dicks for the last month with all the copyrights strikes and so on. The review embargo is also very restrictive so it's hard to say for sure...
But the reviews are crazy good and I do have the cash right now...


I think Skill Up is on point, this is similar to Star Wars where it's suddenly important to deconstruct the characters from something we liked to something that is unfamiliar and often doesn't make sense. It's full-on Hollywood 2020.

There are no choices in the game and expect your character to do a lot of very questionable ones and then the game will lecture you about how bad that choice (that you didn't even make) was.

I've also heard from several now that the game really, really drags, that the story is incredible uneven.

It seems to be nowhere near the first apart from better graphics and some mechanics are improved. I'm gonna get it second hand in a few months.

Buy it and sell it quickly after finished and you'll not pay that much for it.. if you can't bother with that i would stay clear of it. I would really not even recommend supporting these people tbh..
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 04:13    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
44 full perfect 10/10s from various outlets


very expected.. just like many new SJW Hollywood movies gets 10/10 from the sites, and 2/10 from the viewers. Just look at Rotten Tomatoes how uneven this ratio is often.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 05:17    Post subject:
Cant see me rating this 2/10.



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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 06:24    Post subject:
these sites means absolutely nothing to me, The Guardian etc. I'm totally done with both movie and gaming sites. I only listen to a bunch of independent people on YT, people that i trust and that i historically agree with on most things. Overall user scores can sometimes be interesting too, at least far more so than woke gaming or movie sites.

Again, i think Skill Up is far, far more credible than any of these sites, he brought up what was good and what was bad, he doesn't come off as someone with an agenda. To me the bad seems to outweigh the good parts. I still want to play it though to see what its about.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 09:01    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Overall user scores can sometimes be interesting too, at least far more so than woke gaming or movie sites.


Yeah, it's often an interesting look into the mind of incels, where every female protagonist, that doesn't wear high heels and the skimpiest set of armor she could find is an attack on "gamer culture" and every instance of LGBT is "woke" and "SJW-pandering". No worries, there will definitely be enough 1/10 user "reviews" because Elli is just too butch (I mean, yeah, it's the apocalypse but can't she at least do her hair or put on some make up?!!) and in a kill-or-be-killed world she survives by actually killing instead of hiding behind her big and strong male mentor.

It's annoying. I hate militant feminism, I hate "influencers" and people that just have to have a spotlight on them. But the gaming community does have a problem with putting behind them some very backwards views. Lesbian? Sure, as long as it is two HOT girls making out! Gay? Alright, but turn it up to 11 and play it for laughs. Trans? Bury it in the source code, because the moment the character mentions something about it, it is obviously only because of some "agenda". There is some blame on devs here, as these themes often get handled clumsily. But maybe these issues have to be put in a bright light, at least as long as every time a game deals with those themes it generates the kind of reactions it does now. You won't change most peoples worldview, no matter what, Trumps followers are living proof of that. But you can change the medium they like and maybe some day (user) reviews about a game with a gay, butch, female main character won't even have to mention those attributes.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 09:32    Post subject:
Not quite Digital Foundry but until they've done their video, this will do Very Happy



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vurt




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 10:11    Post subject:
Kater Mikesch wrote:
But you can change the medium they like and maybe some day (user) reviews about a game with a gay, butch, female main character won't even have to mention those attributes.


People don't give a shit about people's sexual orientation, race or how people look. As long as you write a good story with believable characters, guess what, buyers are gonna dig that. No one is expecting a game like Last of Us to have big breasted, half-naked sexy women everywhere, that's a really lame idea of how any of this works.

What they're doing is underestimating people's intelligence, because clearly its very easy for us to tell when something is well-written and natural / makes sense or when someone is changed /shoe-horned into the story for political / agenda reasons, or when it's clear that it's bait or trolling.

Who the hell wants to feel like a game is trying to lecture you about shit, what gives a multi-millionaire video game developer in his little safe-bubble the credibility for something like that? These very privileged cucks are often far younger than what i am, with far less life-experience, with far less knowledge about politics and history. I have no interest in their politics or agendas, and i don't go to games or movies for that. I go to games and movies because i might need a break from real-world politics.

This will not last though, eventually making money and instead doing really well written story + characters will win over pandering to a certain (often small and very loud and radical) group.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 10:47    Post subject:
vurt wrote:


I think Skill Up is on point, this is similar to Star Wars where it's suddenly important to deconstruct the characters from something we liked to something that is unfamiliar and often doesn't make sense. It's full-on Hollywood 2020.

There are no choices in the game and expect your character to do a lot of very questionable ones and then the game will lecture you about how bad that choice (that you didn't even make) was.



lol wut lol wut lol wut

how the fuck do you know? did you played the game?


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 11:08    Post subject:
Can't wait for this Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 12:23    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
vurt wrote:


I think Skill Up is on point, this is similar to Star Wars where it's suddenly important to deconstruct the characters from something we liked to something that is unfamiliar and often doesn't make sense. It's full-on Hollywood 2020.

There are no choices in the game and expect your character to do a lot of very questionable ones and then the game will lecture you about how bad that choice (that you didn't even make) was.



lol wut lol wut lol wut

how the fuck do you know? did you played the game?


any special reason you believe the reviews are lying? Do you really believe the game has choices? give me proof, a single one, should be plenty of scenes released with e.g dialogue wheels. This is not such a game, brainiac. It's a game where the developer tells the story and you follow along, sometimes the characters does retarded things and you can't do shit about that because its not a game with multiple routes in the story, its never been advertised as such either, the first game was not like that.

and yes the game has 5h cut-scenes released since long, and yes i have followed that, so i bet i know more than you.

If there's one thing that seems to have consistency in the reviews its the critique against a very uneven story and characters that you don't really feel or care for (like expected for "woke" crap).
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 13:23    Post subject:


you can judge once you've seen the WHOLE picture, until then this discussion is pointless.


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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 14:17    Post subject:
I will never get people forming their opinion based on someone else's opinion before consuming the media themselves.
Naughty Dog always made linear games without choices, so I am not shocked by this, although I do understand if the game forces really harsh choices on you, it could be grating for some people.
Either way I am waiting until I get to play it myself, but going by their record, so far I have liked every game of theirs. In fact, all this collective butthurt makes me look forward to the game even more, to see what all the fuss is about. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 15:01    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
In fact, all this collective butthurt makes me look forward to the game even more, to see what all the fuss is about. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 15:16    Post subject:
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/06/the-last-of-us-part-2-isnt-a-fully-satisfying-return-to-the-apocalypse/


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 15:50    Post subject:
I know nothing about the game except you play as Ellie and you kill everything that moves and i can't wait to get my hands on it tho i have a feeling (isn't based on anything) that it can't be as good as the first game, not the plot anyway. But regardless I'm sure it will be hell of a ride. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 18:58    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:


you can judge once you've seen the WHOLE picture, until then this discussion is pointless.


yeah right, like 5h of cut-scenes + reading the reviews + Sony and ND's behavior wouldnt be enough for me to make up my mind? lol.. shut the fuck up.

The_Zeel wrote:
I will never get people forming their opinion based on someone else's opinion


so you buy every game in existence then, so you can form your own opinion? give me a break, people's opinions always matters, it's why we either buy or decide to not buy, sometimes we play the demo or a pirate copy, but i would say that is more rare than trusting other's opinions about the game. you're right though that a single person's opinion rarely matters, but i doubt anyone is arguing that's the case.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jun 2020 00:39    Post subject:
The Last of Us 2 Trophy List

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No difficulty related trophies!?
Hmm thats a bit crap but surely it could get patched in at a later date or maybe when the Grounded difficulty gets added which might have its own trophy.

Haha what a troll! Laughing





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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jun 2020 17:14    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
StEFaN7 wrote:


you can judge once you've seen the WHOLE picture, until then this discussion is pointless.


yeah right, like 5h of cut-scenes + reading the reviews + Sony and ND's behavior wouldnt be enough for me to make up my mind? lol.. shut the fuck up.



how dumb can you be, how the fuck 5h out of 25h here and there makes up for anything? and what reviews? paid or not? how is nd behaviour different than any other company that did the same? probably dosent fit in your agenda, its woke so thats why they did it and not because of spoilers or whatever. how hard is it to wait one more week for the full game to release? and that dosent mean to buy blind but only then you can start to see opinions from people who played it(hopefully not from the same morons who cries woke), walkthroughs etc. you are just as dumb as the sjws you criticise. like i said, pointless. if the game is really shit then everyone will know in 1 week, its as simple as that

lol wut


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2020 08:16    Post subject:


imagine being this bad Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2020 08:33    Post subject:
What a waste of ammo. Every shot has to count in this game Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2020 08:39    Post subject:
That was me first month of playing PS4 games Smile
I still have trouble with fast action scenes. Maybe it's because I play both, PC and PS4 but most likely I just suck.


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