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StEFaN7
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yeah i watched some key points including the ending, sure it has diversity but the woke was not in my face like star wars pink hair lady or whatever other movies, they feel like real characters.
sure i cant say 100% as i never played it but that is my first impression, and the scenes are very well done, how can people say story is without reason given what they did in the first game, especially that ending.
reminds me of the early game of thrones days
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Jun 2020 17:45 Post subject: |
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People complaining about the game being boring probably didn't play TLOU1. Or their memory is failing.
This game is identical to TLOU1 (what a surprise...)
If you read my old posts, you'd see I was saying the original game was overhyped. It was good, but far from a good Uncharted game.
TLOU2 is the same, it's just a slow Uncharted game. It's a good game, but it's overrated, like the previous one. Pace is too slow for me but like TLOU1, it has "its moments" (aka Uncharted moments).
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Jun 2020 18:53 Post subject: |
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| cyclonefr wrote: | People complaining about the game being boring probably didn't play TLOU1. Or their memory is failing.
This game is identical to TLOU1 (what a surprise...)
If you read my old posts, you'd see I was saying the original game was overhyped. It was good, but far from a good Uncharted game.
TLOU2 is the same, it's just a slow Uncharted game. It's a good game, but it's overrated, like the previous one. Pace is too slow for me but like TLOU1, it has "its moments" (aka Uncharted moments). |
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headshot
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Played the first 10 hours and yeah I think it’s so far so awesome. Slow start but I’m fine with that. Already got unintentionally spoiled with the event 3 hours in about a week ago (thank you random internet troll in unrelated video comments!). Don’t fully agree with the story direction but I’ll make a final judgment on it when I’ve seen the full picture. It is what it is but there was no way that I would boycott the game and not play it as a result!
Before this game I was playing The Last of Us Remastered and yeah the gameplay is literally identical but I don’t mind that and if it’s not broke don’t fix it! It’s certainly improved though with dodge and jump buttons. I was also playing on Grounded difficulty so starting the sequel on moderate makes it feel too easy and there’s a a ridiculous amount of crafting materials I’ve not been able to pick up! Might jump to Survivor for the 2nd playthrough.
It’s a shame the game got review bombed on metacritic but can’t say I’m surprised. Same thing happened with Death Stranding and Red Dead Redemption 2.
May the NFOrce be with you always.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Jun 2020 21:23 Post subject: |
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FXITB 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Jun 2020 21:54 Post subject: |
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what? she is trans?
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Jun 2020 21:57 Post subject: |
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| Ampee wrote: | | cyclonefr wrote: | People complaining about the game being boring probably didn't play TLOU1. Or their memory is failing.
This game is identical to TLOU1 (what a surprise...)
If you read my old posts, you'd see I was saying the original game was overhyped. It was good, but far from a good Uncharted game.
TLOU2 is the same, it's just a slow Uncharted game. It's a good game, but it's overrated, like the previous one. Pace is too slow for me but like TLOU1, it has "its moments" (aka Uncharted moments). |
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Now now what's a good unchartered game?
They're all shit lol.
| Sin317 wrote: | | I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself. |
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Jun 2020 22:13 Post subject: |
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| WaldoJ wrote: | | Ampee wrote: | | cyclonefr wrote: | People complaining about the game being boring probably didn't play TLOU1. Or their memory is failing.
This game is identical to TLOU1 (what a surprise...)
If you read my old posts, you'd see I was saying the original game was overhyped. It was good, but far from a good Uncharted game.
TLOU2 is the same, it's just a slow Uncharted game. It's a good game, but it's overrated, like the previous one. Pace is too slow for me but like TLOU1, it has "its moments" (aka Uncharted moments). |
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Now now what's a good unchartered game?
They're all shit lol. |
It's your opinion. I think it's pretty much accepted that Uncharted games are a great saga.
In 2020, all of them are still great, but Uncharted 1 & 2 (specially 1) feel really old. Uncharted 3, as much as criticized as it was, feels less dated (smoother gameplay a better 3D engine).
But obviously the less dated ones are Uncharted 4 and Uncharted Lost Legacy (which are good Uncharted games and so far better than TLOU2).
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Jun 2020 22:34 Post subject: |
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| cyclonefr wrote: | | WaldoJ wrote: |
Now now what's a good unchartered game?
They're all shit lol. |
It's your opinion. I think it's pretty much accepted that Uncharted games are a great saga.
In 2020, all of them are still great, but Uncharted 1 & 2 (specially 1) feel really old. Uncharted 3, as much as criticized as it was, feels less dated (smoother gameplay a better 3D engine).
But obviously the less dated ones are Uncharted 4 and Uncharted Lost Legacy (which are good Uncharted games and so far better than TLOU2). |
Yes, they are good games, but for me they are really average. Just like Last of us.
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Ashok0
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 01:09 Post subject: |
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Was looking forward to this game and have avoided all spoilers. Why so much controversy amidst stellar reviews? Is this another trash game that's just getting praise for being "woke" and custom tailored for REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEsetera?
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Przepraszam
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 01:47 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 07:37 Post subject: |
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| Ashok0 wrote: | | Why so much controversy amidst stellar reviews? |
Been living under a rock? Plenty of TV series that gets 10/10 from shill media and 1/10 from the fans of the same shows.. e.g latest Star Trek, Dr Who, Batwoman, latest star wars movies... it's all politics, has nothing to do with it actually being a 10/10.. if you want honest opinions there are still good and independent youtubers.
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 09:04 Post subject: |
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I played this for 8 hours straight yesterday. So far it's stellar.
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headshot
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 10:38 Post subject: |
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Masterpiss? I believe it!
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 11:28 Post subject: |
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Masterpiece  I think headshot is a bit too..... headshot.
I wish I was as enthusiastic as headshot : when a game sucks, it’s amazing.
When a game is good it s goty masterpiece best game ever, revolutionary gameplay etc
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 12:27 Post subject: |
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Well it's his opinion, what's the deal with trying to mock it? Should he lie and say it's only "nice" so it will look good in yours eyes?
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 12:35 Post subject: |
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Nah I was just warning you guys about his opinions. For him no game is bad, not even daikatana
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 13:26 Post subject: |
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Digital Foundry gave the game away with one of their tech previews of this when they went on and on about how 'grateful' they are for all the access that Naughty Dog gives them to games. Not the kind of thing they normally say in their articles/vids. It's no wonder all the 10/10 reviews appeared - none of the media want such access to big developers or the platform owner removed, lest their ability to run endless click-bait 'exclusives' on their sites in the future is shut down. It's a mutual dick sucking between the developers, Sony and the media.
And now said media is dashing around putting their fingers in their ears singing la-la-la and posting articles calling every single person on youtube or metacritic who disliked the game a baby, a review bomber, a homophobe, a hater etc.
Not my sort of game anyway, so I'm just an observer to all this, but it's pretty obvious that not all the posters can be wrong. Ergo, the 10/10's are way inflated. Just another reason not to engage in the pointless practice of pre-ordering.
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 14:20 Post subject: |
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| gibman70 wrote: | | Not my sort of game anyway, so I'm just an observer to all this, but it's pretty obvious that not all the posters can be wrong. Ergo, the 10/10's are way inflated. Just another reason not to engage in the pointless practice of pre-ordering. |
Yeah sure, the user "reviews" giving the game a 0 are obviously unbiased opinions and carefully consider the quality of the game. I mean, how could they not be credible, with a lot of them stating they finished a 25 hour game 2 hours after the games release.
Played two sessions till now, something like 10 hours into the game and I am having a blast. The story has me hooked up, had to force myself to pause the game so that I could get at least 4 hours of sleep before having to go to work.  The presentation is top notch, typical for ND, the way your companions interact with you... this was already present in Uncharted 4, but the added dialogue between enemies while you encounter them absolutely enhances the immersiveness of it even further.
Gameplay has been built upon from the first game, I liked it in TLOU1 and I like it even more in Part II. Encounters are fun and incredibly dynamic, the way fights against bigger groups start out with you trying to be stealthy until a minor fuck up or sheer bad luck forces you into open combat... very satisfying.
Graphics are maybe as good as the PS4 is able to, especially the lighting makes for some incredible scenes. 30FPS feels fluid enough though I am really looking forward to replaying this in glorious 60FPS on the PS5. Voice acting and sound quality in general are also superb.
As I am far from finished I can't give it a proper rating yet, but what I have seen makes me believe those that described it as the possibly greatest game of this generation. I pity the snowflakes that miss out on this out of pure hatred for certain themes.
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 14:33 Post subject: |
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Id rather have users protesting with a 0 if reviewers and devs are bullshitting. Why the fuck do you care anyway? Its not your product and you make no money from it.
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 14:41 Post subject: |
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Can't understand either way, I hardly care if a game i like gets all 10, or all 0, in the end i will look for gameplay/reviews on YouTube and if i like what i see then i will get it, no opinion of no one will influence what i love or dislike.
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 15:08 Post subject: |
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I care about it because I have been a gamer for more than 30 years and I don't want my favorite hobby associated with the toxic, racist and/or mysogynist part of the community that is far too often mentioned in news articles that include the phrase "review bombing".
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 15:52 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Id rather have users protesting with a 0 if reviewers and devs are bullshitting. Why the fuck do you care anyway? Its not your product and you make no money from it. |
The issue with those 0 reviews which all parrot one another is that they completely decredibilize themselves from the get-go by giving a bullshit grade to begin with - regardless of the game's actual defects, it doesn't deserve 3.5, I think it's pretty obvious.
And the opposite is just as true with all the 10/10 scores. Games deserving of universal praise and "historical" recognition as staples in the gaming field, regardless of personal preference are very, very rare - Half Life 1 is one of the very few games I'd put into that category.
User scores are only as good as the users giving them out, review bombing degrades the value of these user scores in an acute way. Of course, user reviews are one of the most visible way to voice discontent in a somewhat democratic way and it's a powerful tool because metascores receive a lot of attention, but review bombing by giving bullshit scores (everyone and their mothers know TLoU2 is not a 0/10 game, a lot of the comments accompanying these scores would hint at a 5/10 score at the worst) is completely counterproductive and only reinforces the pointless stand-off between the two sides of the argument.
Well, not that I expect this would change - unless metacritic enforces rules and checks so that only actual owners can write reviews, but that wouldn't sit well with a lot of people. Additionally, there's the issue of metacritic aggregating scores form "amateur" outlets such as regular newspapers, whose grading system is often simplistic but are treated as 100% scores.. and more gaming-focused outlets which don't give grades out anymore.. it's a pretty complex matter, but one review bombing doesn't help in the slightest.
As most of us are saying, just go to your trusted sources whose angle of approach is similar to yours, make the most of it and ignore the marketing/circlejerk noise. I didn't like BotW for instance while I thought it would be great (it just didn't click with me), but I perfectly understand why it got such praise..
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 15:56 Post subject: |
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| Yondaime wrote: | I'm enjoying the story and the characters are good for the most part. The graphics look really good once you get past the winter area in the beginning but as usual with Naughty Dog (and many console) games, it feels like absolute ass because of the low fps and gamepad.
The game has a ton of options you can enable and tweak. I especially like the difficulty settings, you can actually set different difficulties on different things. So as an example you can have a super easy difficulty setting for resources (ammo scarcity and such) but much harder with stealth and combat.
Also a lot of accessibility options which are completely optional.
It even has a FOV slider but it's extremely limited in scope. 
The game play itself is alright I guess, nothing to write home about.
I think it's a good game to play for the story and the occasional visuals but that's it for me, just like the first one. |
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| Adebisi wrote: | | cyclonefr wrote: | | Nah I was just warning you guys about his opinions. For him no game is bad, not even daikatana |
Just say what you think about the game, no need to "warn" nobody as you wouldn't want someone else saying your opinion regarding BotW or FF7R are exaggerated. I would feel less comfortable posting what i really feel if someone would criticized something i enjoyed/hated. |
My opinions are usually not exegerated... If you read most of my opinions, you'd see I agree with 99% of the people here. When a game SUCKS, I will admit it sucks and not try to defend it. Saying Zelda BOTW or FF7 Remake sucks, is just you not liking it, not me exegerating it. You won't deny both of these games were critically acclaimed, I'm not making things up... Unlike Daikatana (or even Duke Nukem Forever, which I loved, but I get that people hated it).
I think Dark Souls, Demon Souls, and Bloodborne suck, but you'll see I'm perfectly aware i'm part of the 5% of people that hate Soul games. So probably the problem comes FROM me.
Most people will say Zelda and FF7 are great games, just like most people will say Daikatana is a TERRIBLE game.
Problem with headshot is, no game, not even the worst game, is terrible. Anyway, won't fight about it, headshot is free to like every games, but it's so funny I like to mock him.
All in all, I'm just saying if you wanna know how bad a game is, I'd say don't ask headshot. Now if you want to, go ahead, I won't forbid you But then you'll mock him too
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2020 16:08 Post subject: |
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| cyclonefr wrote: | | Yondaime wrote: | I'm enjoying the story and the characters are good for the most part. The graphics look really good once you get past the winter area in the beginning but as usual with Naughty Dog (and many console) games, it feels like absolute ass because of the low fps and gamepad.
The game has a ton of options you can enable and tweak. I especially like the difficulty settings, you can actually set different difficulties on different things. So as an example you can have a super easy difficulty setting for resources (ammo scarcity and such) but much harder with stealth and combat.
Also a lot of accessibility options which are completely optional.
It even has a FOV slider but it's extremely limited in scope.
The game play itself is alright I guess, nothing to write home about.
I think it's a good game to play for the story and the occasional visuals but that's it for me, just like the first one. |
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| Adebisi wrote: | | cyclonefr wrote: | | Nah I was just warning you guys about his opinions. For him no game is bad, not even daikatana |
Just say what you think about the game, no need to "warn" nobody as you wouldn't want someone else saying your opinion regarding BotW or FF7R are exaggerated. I would feel less comfortable posting what i really feel if someone would criticized something i enjoyed/hated. |
My opinions are usually not exegerated... If you read most of my opinions, you'd see I agree with 99% of the people here. When a game SUCKS, I will admit it sucks and not try to defend it. Saying Zelda BOTW or FF7 Remake sucks, is just you not liking it, not me exegerating it. You won't deny both of these games were critically acclaimed, I'm not making things up... Unlike Daikatana (or even Duke Nukem Forever, which I loved, but I get that people hated it).
I think Dark Souls, Demon Souls, and Bloodborne suck, but you'll see I'm perfectly aware i'm part of the 5% of people that hate Soul games. So probably the problem comes FROM me.
Most people will say Zelda and FF7 are great games, just like most people will say Daikatana is a TERRIBLE game.
Problem with headshot is, no game, not even the worst game, is terrible. Anyway, won't fight about it, headshot is free to like every games, but it's so funny I like to mock him.
All in all, I'm just saying if you wanna know how bad a game is, I'd say don't ask headshot. Now if you want to, go ahead, I won't forbid you But then you'll mock him too |
Yeah, most people who say Daikatana sucks is because they didn't play it.
It's good game 
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