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0wen




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jun 2020 16:03    Post subject:
Hardsuit still not showing any recent gameplay footage after that horrible live gameplay presentation from last year really makes me think that the Devs are going to use this lockdown as an excuse and we probably will not even see the game in 2020. At least Troika had a good excuse for the game being a little janky with Valve screwing them over with the Source Engine but Hardsuit really has no excuses other then being terrible Devs if they really fail to deliver.

Also what is with that Pre-Order outfit letting you dress up like Wesley Snipes as Blade.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jun 2020 16:15    Post subject:
0wen wrote:
Hardsuit still not showing any recent gameplay footage after that horrible live gameplay presentation from last year really makes me think that the Devs are going to use this lockdown as an excuse and we probably will not even see the game in 2020. At least Troika had a good excuse for the game being a little janky with Valve screwing them over with the Source Engine but Hardsuit really has no excuses other then being terrible Devs if they really fail to deliver.

Also what is with that Pre-Order outfit letting you dress up like Wesley Snipes as Blade.


Yeah, all of this doesn't bide well at all..
But who knows, maybe we'll end up with a clunky, bug-ridden, dysfunctional yet formidable master-piece again ? Very Happy (I'm not counting on it)
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jun 2020 17:21    Post subject:
TheZor wrote:


But who knows, maybe we'll end up with a clunky, bug-ridden, dysfunctional yet formidable master-piece again ? Very Happy (I'm not counting on it)


literally not possible. The same mindset and era is not what it needs to be. The writer of the original even said he was young and those were other times and he wouldnt write something like that today. That you "grow" and change with age. And so on.

Its not gonna have the same design ambition, the same options, reactions, freedom. Dont sweat to much over this game. ANY modern remake or reimagining of specifically pc gaming of old is gonna be a neutered, modernized copy
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jun 2020 17:44    Post subject:
qqq wrote:
TheZor wrote:


But who knows, maybe we'll end up with a clunky, bug-ridden, dysfunctional yet formidable master-piece again ? Very Happy (I'm not counting on it)


literally not possible. The same mindset and era is not what it needs to be. The writer of the original even said he was young and those were other times and he wouldnt write something like that today. That you "grow" and change with age. And so on.

Its not gonna have the same design ambition, the same options, reactions, freedom. Dont sweat to much over this game. ANY modern remake or reimagining of specifically pc gaming of old is gonna be a neutered, modernized copy


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jun 2020 03:41    Post subject:
I think at this point if you want the perfect RPG it's only gonna be text based or something CDRP can get close to.
The bigger the budget the less risk you can take, but it should help to know that safe bland stale no spice story/writing is no good either. it all depends on how much the devs are stuck in a corporate ecochamber of safe vibes.
I don't mind a lil jank if the atmosphere and ride is interesting but I haven't seen enough to judge.
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Aug 2020 08:15    Post subject:
Game delayed to 2021

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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Aug 2020 08:17    Post subject:
heh , i was already under iompression it was 2021 Very Happy


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0wen




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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Aug 2020 08:47    Post subject:
I guess my post from June was kind of accurate on the release moving to 2021 but at least they did not use the lockdown as an excuse. I still do not think we will see it till probably mid 2021 though or maybe even later if they still do not show any new footage this year.
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Aug 2020 08:51    Post subject:
0wen wrote:
I guess my post from June was kind of accurate on the release moving to 2021 but at least they did not use the lockdown as an excuse. I still do not think we will see it till probably mid 2021 though or maybe even later if they still do not show any new footage this year.


I just find it incredibly weird that originally this was supposed to be out February 2020.
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Aug 2020 11:31    Post subject:
Ke1N4o wrote:
0wen wrote:
I guess my post from June was kind of accurate on the release moving to 2021 but at least they did not use the lockdown as an excuse. I still do not think we will see it till probably mid 2021 though or maybe even later if they still do not show any new footage this year.


I just find it incredibly weird that originally this was supposed to be out February 2020.


Just imagine what kind of garbage state the game probably was at the beginning of the year and after Paradox paid all that money for White Wolf I am sure they do not want this to be a huge flop. Paradox did kind of shoot themselves in the foot to begin with by choosing Hardsuit Labs as the devs for the game to begin with so I am hopeful that they will surprise me but I just have a feeling it will not live up to the charm of the Bloodlines name.
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Aug 2020 13:50    Post subject:
It's better this way. There was no safe release window left for this game with all the titles coming out in Q3-4. It was likely to have a fate similar to the original Bloodlines.
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Aug 2020 20:07    Post subject:
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'We want to release on the next generation of consoles and we're having trouble getting the game to work right', or 'We thought we'd be ready in November but now AC and Cyberpunk are being released then'.


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Aug 2020 20:29    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
It's better this way. There was no safe release window left for this game with all the titles coming out in Q3-4. It was likely to have a fate similar to the original Bloodlines.


In the state that apparently this game was, that safe window did not exist at all.


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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Aug 2020 11:26    Post subject:
Gives it more time for the pesos price to drop. Already down to less than 8 eur Pffchh
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Aug 2020 11:48    Post subject:
From the way they jumped out of nowhere in 2019 announcing retail for March 2020, to the multiple push backs all the way to 2021 undetermined date - shit ain't looking good at all, sadly. Must be a real fucking mess. Sad


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2020 16:32    Post subject:
https://www.bloodlines2.com/en/an-update-on-the-organizational-changes-for-bloodlines-2

"Lead Narrative Designer Brian Mitsoda and Creative Director Ka’ai Cluney are no longer part of the team at Hardsuit Labs. This was a joint decision made by the leadership of Hardsuit Labs and Paradox Interactive."

Mitsoda is out....
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2020 16:36    Post subject:
uh oh

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Today’s announcement also says that Alexandre Mandryka is joining the project as creative consultant to fill the creative director role and help finish the game. “Alexandre has been in the industry for more than 20 years and has worked on iconic franchises such as Assassin’s Creed, Warhammer 40,000, Far Cry, and more.”


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2020 17:00    Post subject:
I was not following the development too closely but wasn't the game pretty much "content-finished" and they were delaying it to polish the technical side of things?

Maybe they just didn't want to pay him for another 9 months or w/e?
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2020 17:06    Post subject:
#metoo'd?
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2020 17:41    Post subject:
Reading his statement... maybe they thought his anxiety was too much work and dropped him the moment they could. If that were the case: good luck with them ever admitting it, wouldn't be a good look.

Or the usual: some skeletons from the past that re-surfaced or other 'problematic' behaviour.

Then again could just them being greedy cunts and trying to save a buck on production.
Doubt we'll see them respond to the why.


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2020 18:05    Post subject:
Damn, it's getting really difficult to be optimistic about this project. Between the very rough footage shown many months ago, the multiple long delays, the rumoured ruckus with different internal views colliding, the questionable decision to have she/her Cara Ellison as a senior narrative designer and now Mitsoda's sudden incident, it sounds like something very close to a dumpster fire.

The original Bloodlines was a mess too, but it had proper brilliance in the writing department and a strong artistic direction to make up for the shortcomings, it was a product of another (better) time. Honestly, I'll be incredibly surprised (and pleased) if this sequel will come out in a decent state and won't reek of rotten sushi.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2020 19:47    Post subject:
Holy shit, they fired the two guys that pitched the project to Paradox and won the contract. Mitsoda also apparently left his wife to bang Cara Ellison, who I imagine has now inherited his job.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2020 21:38    Post subject:
DCB wrote:
Holy shit, they fired the two guys that pitched the project to Paradox and won the contract. Mitsoda also apparently left his wife to bang Cara Ellison, who I imagine has now inherited his job.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2020 00:04    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
DCB wrote:
Holy shit, they fired the two guys that pitched the project to Paradox and won the contract. Mitsoda also apparently left his wife to bang Cara Ellison, who I imagine has now inherited his job.
dafuq Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2020 00:38    Post subject:
Haha somehow that wouldn't surprise me, the ashen hair + leather gloves combo is the ultimate magnet for the specific type of people working in there. Case in point Cool Face Laughing



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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2020 11:24    Post subject:
buncha fuckin weirdos lol


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2020 11:48    Post subject:
First they booted out Chris coz of the false accusations, now Mitsoda is gone....


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