I think a safe educated guess is that it will be a first-generation implementation, like nVidia's was last time. It's very hard to get this right the first time. It took AMD three generations of CPUs to get it right (Ryzen -> Ryzen Plus -> Ryzen 2).
Good luck finding ANY high end 30x0 card if THIS is true:
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Hold your breath: GeForce RTX 3080 Might Become Hard to get - Cryptocurrency Miners Again
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Miners that mine Ethereum, as you can see in the screenshot for the RTX 3080 achieves a computing power of 115 MH/s, nearly three times faster than an RTX 2080 that is capable of 35 to 40 megahashes per second. No values for energy consumption are given, the 3080 seems theoretically more efficient if one contrasts the tdp of both cards with the hash rate. Mining cryptocurrency in Asia is quite profitable, given the relatively low energy costs.
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The fact that the cards already have been sold is weird, but more worrying is that a new mining craze might ignite shortages, and this will drive availability for consumers down and prices up.
I still remember the ridiculous price hikes and unavailability of the most interesting GPU's with bitcoin a couple of years ago. This time it's Ethereum and the 3080 is apparently performing 3x as fast at computing hashes as the 2080 while the TDP makes it pretty damn profitable for the asians/chinese. I don't know how they got hold of the cards but since there are factories and foundries in China (TSMC have some of their plants in China) it wouldn't surprise me if there's a gravy train for connected people that have supply sources from various chinese manufacturers. Add to that the fact that energy is cheap over there compared to the prices in the developed countries west of China.
AMD "only" needs to be between 3070 and 3080 for 599€ and have 16GB VRAM ( ) to be interesting to me.
I can wait untill after the Christmas sales to upgrade. Its not like I don't have a huge backlog of games that run just fine on my current setup. Plus people need to beta test those gpus before I buy them.
I agree it's better to wait for performeces comprasion betweens both new gens before hurry to buy one.
In my case it's not that much of a different cuz I will only need new card next year.
These will probably be as power limited as 2xxx series, so every card will OC manually pretty much the same, unless its some hc kingpin card. Undervolting will be interesting once again.
Still so undecided if i'm gonna get the founders or something else. I see asus has 4 different 3080's but no info about the differences among them.
Remember, Founders is not a 'reference' board, if you wanna block it , and you don't wanna buy the usual overpriced nonsense 'big triple fan, core clock, mem clock up by 200', and pay an extra premium, when you can just do it yourself at the end of the day, more so if you are gonna block it yourself, albeit, without the 'SOC', 'FTW' tag Despite what they say, it's exactly the same board, with no better mem chips, no better nothing, apart from cooling, they can guarantee, once BIOS is clocked by themselves, under the warranty It's how the 'Kingpin' BIOS became popular for the 1080Ti, but you gotta have water running over it to benefit, or that 'special' triple fan, you know, the one that lights up, with SOC or FTW on it.
By the time 3080 is released, there will be like 5% difference compared to 2080ti in real world, seems that gap is closing on every leak One thing is also worth to mention, 3080 has like 20% higher TDP compared to 2080ti, so if the card is on average 24% faster, what improvement there has been (other than insane boost in RT performance ofc).
Ah but don't you worry Breezer_, once the new drivers start coming out Turing will mysteriously start losing performance to make up for the lack of difference.
Ah but don't you worry Breezer_, once the new drivers start coming out Turing will mysteriously start losing performance to make up for the lack of difference.
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) to be interesting to me.
, and you don't wanna buy the usual overpriced nonsense 'big triple fan, core clock, mem clock up by 200', and pay an extra premium, when you can just do it yourself at the end of the day, more so if you are gonna block it yourself, albeit, without the 'SOC', 'FTW' tag 
Despite what they say, it's exactly the same board, with no better mem chips, no better nothing, apart from cooling, they can guarantee, once BIOS is clocked by themselves, under the warranty 
One thing is also worth to mention, 3080 has like 20% higher TDP compared to 2080ti, so if the card is on average 24% faster, what improvement there has been (other than insane boost in RT performance ofc).
