I actually really enjoyed this game. I started playing it on Friday evening at 5:00 PM and finished around Sat morning at 5:30 AM. The game felt a bit short but I would gladly take that instead of overstaying it's welcome with stupid repetitive tasks (see Mafia 3.) I had never played the original only the sequels so that likely helped with my expectations. It's rare that I play anything to completion these days and I couldn't put this one down. There were certainly aspects that could have been better but at the end of the day, I'm glad I took the chance and didn't listen to all the negative feedback.
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Never finished the original either. I remember i was low hp on some rooftop getting chased by the cops and either i saved by mistake or the autosave fucked me up, and i just quit :/
I love how Vávra mimicries the unnecessarily soap-opera-y overdramatization of that scene
Unfortunately, it seems we're heading towards the scenario where the Hangarmen manage to regain enough trust to develop a future Mafia title. Not that we had any hopes with 2K at the helm anyway, but still.
I watched a couple of hours of Mafia 1 playthrough and I can say that the Definitive Edition has better writing. The original game is rather cheesy in this regard.
I watched a couple of hours of Mafia 1 playthrough and I can say that the Definitive Edition has better writing. The original game is rather cheesy in this regard.
I.... what? The remake is basically "all characters are Goodfellas characters 2.0".
In the original they actually have a soul, and make you believe that Tommy was just a taxi driver before.
Just compare these scenes (spoilers from the early Hotel mission)
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from 5:03 to 6:30
to the remake
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from 4:30 to 6:10
Yeah, sure seems like a civilian getting mixed up with the Mob by accident in the remake, totally not a wannabe cool typical mafioso
This scene takes place like 3 years into the game's action. It's only logical the character would behave more adequate.
I would say they did justice to the original story, the gameplay not so much... This is obviously the more advanced game, but it's not made in the same spirit.
Not exactly. Mafia 1's story was the outsider's perspective on organized crime. Tommy was a good guy who found himself in the mafia entirely by accident. He was low-level and wasn't shown to be very close to other gangsters outside of Paulie and Frank. The main idea was Tommy was over his head and the surprise in his reaction at the end fits his story. It also gave a vaild reason why Tommy let Frank go. He did a lot of grunt work and never knew too much details about the jobs. That's why he and Paulie robbed a bank, they were never seen to amount to much.
In the definitive edition Tommy wanted to be a wiseguy. Joining the Salieri family was mostly his choice. He knows everything, everything is explained. Also, Salieri was shown as an underdog in his struggle against Morello, while in the original story they split the city 50/50 and nobody managed to prevail until Salieri got lucky. The scenes in DE where 2 years in people were talking about Tommy as some sort of a successor to Salieri were especially laughable because they don't make any sense.
Yeah the way Frank and Sal seem to consider Tommy as someone capable of rising in ranking like that stood out since the motivation and Tommy's conflicts in the original had him more as a capable driver and enforcer but that was about it not going up to being some Capo or how that ranking is again and potentially even more.
But there's a number of changes in the later missions that go a bit out of their way for the new version here to add or change some of the characters or most of them I suppose.
EDIT: Memory is a bit hazy but I believe the DE also makes Tommy's personality a lot more aggressive and less hesitant during many scenes both early and late game.
EDIT: Bit of a spoiler perhaps but the smuggled goods and change here is weird too for a certain late mission.
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Although late game Salieri is kinda oddly aggressive and "Evil" overall I suppose in this version.
Guess that was how they expanded on him changing after Morella and the conflict here but it feels a bit off.
Diamond smuggling already worked pretty well too on it's own and gave Paulie his unfortunate idea so it could have remained unchanged.
Plus I think the older style Mafia would have been a lot stricter on some of these goods too until the later years and the more modern commission.
You're not wrong. The american mafia got into drugs during the 1940s not before. It happened because WW2 disrupted the heroin and opium trade dominated by the chinese emigrants since the late 19th century. DE is an alternate timeline where Cosa Nostra became dope pushers early on.
I found Salieri's evil tendencies to be weird Same for Morello. I don't know why they changed the tone of his early scenes. I guess they wanted to establish him as a cartoon antagonist. For example, in the original a civilian bumps into his car and pisses Morello off not because he dented his car's bumper, but because he was babbling out of fear. In the new version Morello causes the incident and kills a guy working for him. The tone of the interactions is very different. Same with the relationship between Salieri and Morello. Now they openly hate each other while in the original they were described as cordial, despite being business rivals.
They actually changed a whole lot of scenes. The one where Frank gives Tommy advice is entirely fucked up. In the new version it's a business meeting with some threatening allegory. In the old one it was an interaction between friends.
@bronson exactly, that's why when in the original the part in Death of Art mission when
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Tommy shoots Sam
is so much more powerful and
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Sam is extremely surprised, exclaiming "you... You did it...".
Because the original Tommy never was a cold-blooded killer, nor pretended to be a full blown mobster. He ultimately was a guy that got involved with the mob, but he had a good heart.
For some reason, in the original on the 'A Great deal' mission, it kept crashing when I tried to drive the booze truck down the last ramp. I must have tried 6 or so times to get around it but it just kept crashing when the car was half way down.
Solution: Put the truck above the ramp and into neutral, bump it in the back and watch it roll down the ramp.
Spoiler:
Then you can exit the car park without a CTD
Had the same problem there. The guy who did the mod wrote in the pdf that comes with the mod to rename a few folders, pass the crash, then rename those folders how they were. But your fix is faster
Mafia: Definitive Edition suffers from a modern simplification aimed at a wider audience against an original game which made no such compromises. The story is a compelling adaptation with a slightly different tone while the gameplay reeks of consolization. I would say this is a better game than Mafia III, but it’s not exactly the definitive remake of a classic that some fans were probably expecting.
Pros:
+ A somewhat faithful adaption of the original story
+ Pretty good graphics
+ World design
+ High quality voice acting and sound effects
+ No filler content
For some reason, in the original on the 'A Great deal' mission, it kept crashing when I tried to drive the booze truck down the last ramp. I must have tried 6 or so times to get around it but it just kept crashing when the car was half way down.
Solution: Put the truck above the ramp and into neutral, bump it in the back and watch it roll down the ramp.
Spoiler:
Then you can exit the car park without a CTD
That's amazing! I love videogames!
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It's ridiculous because WAB was very involved in the Mafia community for years and then goes and says stupid shit like that.
I powered through to the last mission on classic and I'm definitely not touching this one again. The shooting becomes so annoying during late missions. The fireworks shooutout scene from Happy Birthday was one of the most retarded moments in the whole playthrough.
I don't think I've ever seen anything like 'skip drive' in the original
Spoiler:
WAB
Oh ok, I thought it was a little popup when you get in the car at the start of certain missions. The game is pretty linear in an open-ish world, and sometimes it took a while to get at the location (not talking about the race or missions outside city).
I'm probably thinking of another game then
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
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