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150GB HDD space required, eh?
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 01:27 Post subject: |
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Last edited by Interinactive on Mon, 4th Oct 2021 08:47; edited 3 times in total
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 07:28 Post subject: |
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Has to be a mistake. I'm bringing out my pirate hat and parrot if not.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 11:15 Post subject: |
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Not a mistake I think, seems most bigger names are pricing games so lil Juan can't afford it. 
The twats!
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 11:32 Post subject: |
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Havent steam made it a lot harder to switch regions for those not already in argentina etc though? Im guessing we'll soon be expelled though based on our IP. Makes it tricky with the usage of VPN's and such though, but services have been able to see through use of vpn's before.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 12:29 Post subject: |
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| AmpegV4 wrote: | | Hmm, anyone going to play early access edition? Given how much content changes between now and release think I will pass. |
Tempted but yeah Original Sin and I assume it's sequel changed a lot and you'll be spoiling some of the early game experiencing it in a more buggy and incomplete version though as Original Sin demonstrated the testing really helped Larian polish and fix up and tune and balance the game but mostly just the content from the early access builds that were available to users.
Larian is pretty committed though and their patches and updates even when done through various larger publishers instead of independently have in my experience at least been really well managed with multiple larger patches or working over the game itself (Divinity 2, Original Sin 1) responding to criticism and bug reports.
Will be very interesting to see how they can manage a current version D&D ruleset and implementation but I might just wait until it's finished first and I don't think they're pricing the game differently although they are pricing it for the amount of content.
Or at least in regards to US and EU territories for the most part, presumable they or their publisher will be altering a few VPN frequent ones which can be compared through SteamDB now to see just how skewed that is from the Valve recommended adjustments.
But yeah 60$ something instead of 40$ base cost and a really lengthy game from the sounds of it.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 13:05 Post subject: |
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Almost every Early Access is spoiling the final game for me, when I play it too much.
Was true for Factorio, Empyrion, Original Sin 2... etc...
So I stay away from Early Access now.
I might buy it on the cheap, but I won't play it until it's done.
But yeah, seeing this is Larian, I probably wait for the Definitive Edition lol.
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shadak
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 13:14 Post subject: |
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Will probably download this to see what they did, from the vids so far it seems like dialogues and text are very basic (for lack of a better word), to me part of BG was the way everything was described in detail and compared to BG3 it seems like NPC/PC sentences etc. during dialogues are like 1/4 of BG2. But hey ho, its modern times...
Would also much rather get the POE2 perspective than DOS style of camera but thats not the most important thing I guess.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 16:12 Post subject: |
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I wonder if the final version will have more companions. Five is quite low for an RPG even more so for BG.
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 16:33 Post subject: |
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I wanna stay away from it until they complete it but I am way too tempted to just dive in.
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Ke1N
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 17:12 Post subject: |
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I'm still on the fence whether I should get it today or wait for a little more content. I liked what I saw and I'm excited to play it, but I don't know if it's really worth it right now.
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 17:16 Post subject: |
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| Nodrim wrote: | | I wonder if the final version will have more companions. Five is quite low for an RPG even more so for BG. |
not when they are fully voiced and mocapped ... then its a lot , the downside of all this voice n mocap bla
they could have just kept things simple like jagged alliance with just a few iconic memorable lines, not bibles of blablablablablalba
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 17:40 Post subject: |
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I think 5 is fine as long as they have deep stories and stuff.
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 17:54 Post subject: |
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Quality over quantity and all that. The important thing i think is that you'll be able to fill your party with characters who have similar alignments. Would suck if you want to play evilish and have most pack their bags and leave half way in the game.
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 19:41 Post subject: |
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kinda new engine , double the size of DO2 , yep ...bugs
maybe ill try it just for character customization but im going to wait for the Definitive Ultimate Legendary Edition to actually play the game 
nothing worse in RPG when you get quest bugs and you open the journal and you see unfinished quests 
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. 
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Ke1N
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 19:42 Post subject: |
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Welp, I decided to go for it!
Currently installing, the download is big, around 82GB.
Hopefully I get to play a little bit before going to bed.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 19:48 Post subject: |
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| H4wkeye wrote: | | I think 5 is fine as long as they have deep stories and stuff. |
The party puzzle was at the heart of BG2. You could replay that game 3-4 times and still get different banters because of the expanded the character interactions and the party possibilities. Going from 20+ companions to 5 is not exactly an evolution.
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 20:22 Post subject: |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 20:36 Post subject: |
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| Nodrim wrote: | | H4wkeye wrote: | | I think 5 is fine as long as they have deep stories and stuff. |
The party puzzle was at the heart of BG2. You could replay that game 3-4 times and still get different banters because of the expanded the character interactions and the party possibilities. Going from 20+ companions to 5 is not exactly an evolution. |
Well I'm sure they'll add more. This is what the EA has.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 20:39 Post subject: |
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It's anything but stupid though. It's marketing and it works on the majority.
Yeah, I also called it silly when getting taught that crap in school.
No doubt they'll round that 69.99 to 70 so you get fucked in the butt twice. 
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 20:40 Post subject: |
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| H4wkeye wrote: | | Nodrim wrote: | | H4wkeye wrote: | | I think 5 is fine as long as they have deep stories and stuff. |
The party puzzle was at the heart of BG2. You could replay that game 3-4 times and still get different banters because of the expanded the character interactions and the party possibilities. Going from 20+ companions to 5 is not exactly an evolution. |
Well I'm sure they'll add more. This is what the EA has. |
Are you sure? I have looked for any info on this and I couldn't find much. The current companions appear on all the promotional material.
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shadak
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| JBeckman wrote: | It's voice acted which even with better resources it's hard to do the classic D&D modules and video game adaptions when you had a entire separate document with a ton of text in it and as storage got better the lengthy descriptions and dialogues and branching dialogue trees in for here I suppose primarily the Infinity Engine games as a comparison.
I expect them to expand on what was there since Divinity Original Sin 2 but I don't think it's going to be possible to provide voice acting with script sizes on par with a couple of lengthier books.
Unfortunate but there's the budget and amount of work with recording and all the different actors and quality of said voice acting and if they don't do that a lot of players skip through dialogue or don't even pick the game up.
Modern video game development costs also means it's very hard to target a smaller more niche target base which is what many smaller studios faced with the hardware advancement into 3D accelerated graphics, CD-ROM storage and expectations and increased development costs and times in the 1990's so that's a balance act too.
Probably a lot more too, social and political stuff being a more active thing and interests and player expectations and sales demand and what not from the publisher.
I like that they're going for it but I would imagine a lengthy role playing game experience has to be a very risky project but hopefully it sells well enough to break even and then generate profit.
EDIT: It's not Fallout 4 but it's not Baldur's Gate classic either.
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I agree, there probably arent many other options for them.
But to tell the truth, it makes me a bit sad as this is labeled Baldurs Gate but doesnt have too much in common with the previous 2 games.
I just watched a bit of gameplay and it just has this weird sillyness around it with odd characters that look ugly and a bit out of place (like the initial lady companion or whatever it is) , the dialogues are mostly short sentences with mediocre acting. I know they cant expand voice acted dialogues too much but even the PC responses are couple of words even though they arent voiced. Also there seems to be a huge amount of combat.
No disrespect to the devs but this seems like a DOS with a bit of DnD lore. Oh well.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Oct 2020 20:55 Post subject: |
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btw,
| Quote: | How much content is in Early Access?
The Early Access version of Baldur’s Gate 3 includes Act 1 of the game which, in one playthrough, is approximately 25 hours of self-contained content. |
....And bought, lol.
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not likely you will want to revisit the 'starter' area again..
