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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Oct 2020 09:12    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
The only character that fails for me is Wee Hughie. The idea of americanizing him was horrible, as is 90% of his "quirky" dialogue. It worked for the comic version since being a Scot was IMO a major part of what made the character work better there. Why the change, I wonder? Doesn't MM count as an American already? If not, that's pretty racist IMO Razz


I was kinda hoping to see him die. What an absolute piece of trash in a otherwise badass show. Just some petty self insert and a lame romance story for the nitwits to self insert into.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Oct 2020 09:19    Post subject:
His arc is dumb and not even really concluded even though he seems to believe so.

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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Oct 2020 11:40    Post subject:
Well, in this show full of alpha males and alpha females it makes sense to add a beta male to contrast the macho characters.


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Oct 2020 18:01    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
Well, in this show full of alpha males and alpha females it makes sense to add a beta male to contrast the macho characters.


Why though? I don't get why you'd even need a counterbalance.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Oct 2020 18:33    Post subject:
Yeah, all we really need is the Aryan Super Race, hein, Stormwolf?
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Oct 2020 19:48    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Frant wrote:
Well, in this show full of alpha males and alpha females it makes sense to add a beta male to contrast the macho characters.


Why though? I don't get why you'd even need a counterbalance.


Because murica is filled with more betas than alphas.


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Oct 2020 20:23    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Frant wrote:
Well, in this show full of alpha males and alpha females it makes sense to add a beta male to contrast the macho characters.


Why though? I don't get why you'd even need a counterbalance.


Because murica is filled with more betas than alphas.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Oct 2020 22:42    Post subject:
So.. i just finished it and I really enjoyed the writing. Butchers confrontation that was organised by his mom seemed initially and cheesy but went so much further than initially expected and it was refreshing! One of the better shows I enjoyed watching and together with Watchmen this was actually grear for anti hero shows Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Oct 2020 22:47    Post subject:
For anti hero shows, this tops it for me. It sure has it's flaws, but any downsides pale in comparison to the good!
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Oct 2020 23:58    Post subject:
It was indeed awesome to watch but some of the plot developements at the end were a bit too easy. And as some of you already said, there are some inconsistencies in Hughies developement.

But who cares right? Its just so entertaining. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Oct 2020 01:39    Post subject:
Anthony Starr would make one hell of a Joker.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Oct 2020 02:14    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Oct 2020 03:49    Post subject:


I did roll my eyes at the “strong diverse female characters stomping a literal nazi” Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Oct 2020 04:00    Post subject:
https://www.slashfilm.com/the-boys-season-3-filming-2021/

Season 3 starts filming early next year.
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Oct 2020 23:51    Post subject:
Interview with the creator:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/superheroes-are-inherently-maga-the-boys-boss-on-his-zeitgeisty-hit

some highlights;

"Superheroes are inherently MAGA."

"There’s these undeniable fascist underpinnings to it. They’re there to protect white, patriotic America. That’s what they were designed to do, that’s what they do."

"That’s I think how you end up with people like Trump"

I give it 9/10 Twitter Likes (not enough talk about Trump's hair, otherwise really good!)

*FuN FAcT: He does not like racisicism OR Nazisism! He say they bad. He = NOT nazi, he = super NICE person AND ALSO very SPeCIAL becAse NOT racisicist like rest!
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 00:37    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Interview with the creator:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/superheroes-are-inherently-maga-the-boys-boss-on-his-zeitgeisty-hit

some highlights;

"Superheroes are inherently MAGA."

"There’s these undeniable fascist underpinnings to it. They’re there to protect white, patriotic America. That’s what they were designed to do, that’s what they do."

"That’s I think how you end up with people like Trump"

I give it 9/10 Twitter Likes (not enough talk about Trump's hair, otherwise really good!)

*FuN FAcT: He does not like racisicism OR Nazisism! He say they bad. He = NOT nazi, he = super NICE person AND ALSO very SPeCIAL becAse NOT racisicist like rest!
The "creator" is Garth Ennis, not some some 'murican producer wanker. As for the rest, meh.
It's all pre-trump too in the comics, which is IMO the version that really counts Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 00:43    Post subject:
I'm glad I can enjoy a show without giving a shit about what the producer thinks
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 00:52    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Interview with the creator:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/superheroes-are-inherently-maga-the-boys-boss-on-his-zeitgeisty-hit

some highlights;

"Superheroes are inherently MAGA."

"There’s these undeniable fascist underpinnings to it. They’re there to protect white, patriotic America. That’s what they were designed to do, that’s what they do."

"That’s I think how you end up with people like Trump"

I give it 9/10 Twitter Likes (not enough talk about Trump's hair, otherwise really good!)

*FuN FAcT: He does not like racisicism OR Nazisism! He say they bad. He = NOT nazi, he = super NICE person AND ALSO very SPeCIAL becAse NOT racisicist like rest!


Aaaand? You read his shit? Watch his shit? Doesn't preach. Stays away from preaching. And is racy. Soooo if that's the future of sjwism in shows (its not) then it is then welcome.

If you don't like the show or the creator or any aspect of it gtfo out the thread. Simple. Your moronic red pilling is doing more harm than good. This show or any other show does not brainwash people. Series came out at what some may say is one of the height of sjw in media. Season 2 was just as strong as the first. Sooo your point in general is moot.

Also any asshole will scream sjw bs for pussy while calling their significant other a bitch in bed while he rails her listening to some shit music. Know that. If he were as woke as you think he was the show wouldn't be made, comic wouldn't be successful, he'd have fallen of the face of the earth. Just know that. Not everything is as obvious as you think it is. Given the lotr thread, you simply know nothing but some context lacking reddit shit post from some incel with no grasp of reality.


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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 01:11    Post subject:
my my,isn´t this a loaded debate


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vurt




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 01:48    Post subject:
Its preachy as hell since it's completely one-sided. You're so brainwashed from similar shows that you can't even see it. I feel sorry for you. This crap is repeated over and over in so many shows these days. That's what brainwashing is, it works through repetition.

They sure tried their best at first to create the illusion that it wasn't woke, even hinted at perhaps making fun of wokeness (to not lose, what they think are the most important viewers, just like Druckmann said for his woke-ass game - "the people that needs to play it the most"). ...and then went full on Woke. Instead of just doing what everyone else is doing in Hollywoke he could have made it very relevant to our time, but no, no balls + total TDS... just interested in doing the brainwash-formulla, the repeating.

One example would've been to make Stormfront a full-on femi-nazi/SJW instead of just a boring ass nazi (which we've seen thousands of times before, it adds nothing new to the table). But then again it would not have the brainwashing element. In election times obviously it's more important than ever to these half-assed hipster-""politicians"".

"As woke as i think?" You're nuts.. Do you for one second think this man doesn't think he's "woke" or would even oppose to it, even in the slightest? lol... I doubt you even know what woke means, he's proven both in this and in previous interviews that he's got TDS. The show itself tells you the usual leftist propaganda how e.g fathers are bad.

I also thought i made myself very clear in the LOTR thread that i really have no interest in discussing with you. You clearly want to defend total BS like this which is SO easy to see through for what it is. Nothing i say will change your mind, and nothing you say will change my mind.

You're on Ignore from now, never done it before but you're, let's say, special (take that as you want). thanks and bye.
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 01:56    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
The "creator" is Garth Ennis, not some some 'murican producer wanker. As for the rest, meh.
It's all pre-trump too in the comics, which is IMO the version that really counts Very Happy


yeah, i'm hearing from everyone that the show absolutely blows in comparison to the comic... gonna see if i can grab it somewhere.
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 03:24    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Its preachy as hell since it's completely one-sided. You're so brainwashed from similar shows that you can't even see it. I feel sorry for you. This crap is repeated over and over in so many shows these days. That's what brainwashing is, it works through repetition.

They sure tried their best at first to create the illusion that it wasn't woke, even hinted at perhaps making fun of wokeness (to not lose, what they think are the most important viewers, just like Druckmann said for his woke-ass game - "the people that needs to play it the most"). ...and then went full on Woke. Instead of just doing what everyone else is doing in Hollywoke he could have made it very relevant to our time, but no, no balls + total TDS... just interested in doing the brainwash-formulla, the repeating.

One example would've been to make Stormfront a full-on femi-nazi/SJW instead of just a boring ass nazi (which we've seen thousands of times before, it adds nothing new to the table). But then again it would not have the brainwashing element. In election times obviously it's more important than ever to these half-assed hipster-""politicians"".

"As woke as i think?" You're nuts.. Do you for one second think this man doesn't think he's "woke" or would even oppose to it, even in the slightest? lol... I doubt you even know what woke means, he's proven both in this and in previous interviews that he's got TDS. The show itself tells you the usual leftist propaganda how e.g fathers are bad.

I also thought i made myself very clear in the LOTR thread that i really have no interest in discussing with you. You clearly want to defend total BS like this which is SO easy to see through for what it is. Nothing i say will change your mind, and nothing you say will change my mind.

You're on Ignore from now, never done it before but you're, let's say, special (take that as you want). thanks and bye.


Where are you getting this from?!
What are you talking about?!
Get some sleep. You're reading too much into things its borderline retardation. The Boys inst preaching any sjw propaganda. Its sjw moments are satirical.

Stop. You're embarassing yourself.
Whats in your red pilled head isn't on the screen or in the script or even remotely at display on the show.
Just. Stop. Get some rest. Go watch some non woke shows from the 80s and be happy. Let us enjoy our shit in peace.


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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 09:29    Post subject:
From a far right perspective everything condemning fascism or nazis is sjw propaganda.

Stormfront did nothing wrong lol wut
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 14:45    Post subject:
"Hughie" (Jack Quaid)

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Is the son of Meg Ryan and Dennis Quaid


Aaaaah, that's why I saw some resemblance that I couldn't put my finger on who he was. I never checked out the list of the cast and didn't know who he was until I just looked it up.


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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 15:03    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
"Hughie" (Jack Quaid)

Quote:
Is the son of Meg Ryan and Dennis Quaid


Aaaaah, that's why I saw some resemblance that I couldn't put my finger on who he was. I never checked out the list of the cast and didn't know who he was until I just looked it up.


Same, he looked familiar somehow but I never made the connection.

It seems so obvious now.
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 15:40    Post subject:
And Dennis Quaid is Harrison Fords son, right? ^^
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