Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 [October 21st]
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DCB




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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Aug 2020 19:12    Post subject:
From everything we've seen to date, even before Mitsoda got the ass, VTMB2 seems to be very much akin to Ghostbusters (2016). It's trading on the name of the original, but is clearly not intended for fans of the original.
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Aug 2020 05:25    Post subject:
I'd like to make fun of the absurd state of modern gaming, but it's so genuinely sad and the bad news are so frequent these days that hopeless apathy is all that's left at this point. Positive thinking has become a rare luxury, for every glimmer of hope there's a truckload of pathetic annoyances and shitty decisions dictated by pure greed and/or by simple incompetence. No wonder we're so damned grumpy Sad Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Aug 2020 21:39    Post subject:
Honestly, I think it's safe to say it's over at this point. We, (or at least I) seem to have aged out. Those series' that I have such fond memories of - that I'd go so far as to say form the cornerstone of "this is why I'm a gamer" stand no chance in hell of being brought back to the forefront at this point. Between the nickel'and'dime chop to bits mentality of DLC, and the whole "I'm Offended" bullshit culture, no developer or publisher has the balls to go back to the glory days of what made games like VTM:B great.

I'm not sure why I held out a little hope on this one as long as I did, perhaps I was hoping for one last huzzah as it were, that'll teach me.


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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Aug 2020 18:04    Post subject:
Immunity wrote:
Honestly, I think it's safe to say it's over at this point. We, (or at least I) seem to have aged out. Those series' that I have such fond memories of - that I'd go so far as to say form the cornerstone of "this is why I'm a gamer" stand no chance in hell of being brought back to the forefront at this point. Between the nickel'and'dime chop to bits mentality of DLC, and the whole "I'm Offended" bullshit culture, no developer or publisher has the balls to go back to the glory days of what made games like VTM:B great.

I'm not sure why I held out a little hope on this one as long as I did, perhaps I was hoping for one last huzzah as it were, that'll teach me.


Yep, better these franchises rest in peace at this point. I dislike their legacy being sullied by these soulless revivals.
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DCB




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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2020 06:15    Post subject:
Another case of "I have no idea if this is true, but it sure sounds plausible"

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I'm assuming the implication must be that Mitsoda was one of those leads bullshitting Paradox, but that doesn't strike me as particularly likely. Both because he did have experience with large-ish teams at Troika and Obsidian, and because he was only handling narrative, not systems design.
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 13:39    Post subject:
So it sounds like Cara Ellison has now also been removed from Bloodlines 2. She has removed mention of it from her Twitter bio and has apparently moved back to Scotland. Is someone with LinkedIn able to do some Hump investigative journalism?
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Steelone




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Oct 2020 13:57    Post subject:
DCB wrote:
So it sounds like Cara Ellison has now also been removed from Bloodlines 2. She has removed mention of it from her Twitter bio and has apparently moved back to Scotland. Is someone with LinkedIn able to do some Hump investigative journalism?


It seems very probable. Codexers all believe she's been canned.

Who knows what's going on. Hardsuit Labs seems to be another games company with awful project management.
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2020 06:19    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2020 08:09    Post subject:
Yeah, I can't see this coming out in 2021 Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2020 09:46    Post subject:
Glad i refunded this travesty
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2020 11:21    Post subject:
Sad you preordered this in the first place.


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2020 11:45    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Sad you preordered this in the first place.


All this hindsight must make you feel strong, powerful and wise.
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2020 12:09    Post subject:
Let me get off my horse, take off the shiny armor and bend over for your pleasure.


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2020 19:52    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Glad i refunded this travesty


I'm not even sure I should ask a refund of the 6 euros I paid for it at Diego's store Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2020 20:00    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Glad i refunded this travesty


I'm not even sure I should ask a refund of the 6 euros I paid for it at Diego's store Laughing


For me its a matter of principle. I don't want my money to end up in their pockets. I'll isodemo this for all its worth and we'll see how long i can even stomach playing it.
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Oct 2020 23:38    Post subject:
really unfortunate i'm going to be sitting back and watching how bad this game is going to TANK.


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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 21:07    Post subject:
Things might be looking grim, but fortunately, a new talented narrative designer just stepped in Cool Face

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On her Twitter, Samatha Wallschlaeger announced that she had become the new Lead Narrative Designer at Hardsuit Labs. She’s worked for several developers in the past, including BioWare and Monolith.


https://gamingbolt.com/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-gets-new-lead-narrative-designer

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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 22:01    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Things might be looking grim, but fortunately, a new talented narrative designer just stepped in Cool Face

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On her Twitter, Samatha Wallschlaeger announced that she had become the new Lead Narrative Designer at Hardsuit Labs. She’s worked for several developers in the past, including BioWare and Monolith.


https://gamingbolt.com/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-gets-new-lead-narrative-designer

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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 22:54    Post subject:
OH GOD NOOOO!!!
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 23:16    Post subject:
Haha, i love it Laughing i hope someone takes a shit in the directors mailbox while he's busy watching black men gangbang his wife
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 23:43    Post subject:
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 23:54    Post subject:
Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Oct 2020 23:57    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Of course it's someone who worked on Andromeda...

The pinnacle of writing lol wut

'Hi, I'm new her---'

'Hey there, I'm Steve tho I used to be called Helen, I have a penis now, I fuck X, Y and Z'

'Um...'


I think the first mass effect had something like this too
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 00:08    Post subject:
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 00:13    Post subject:
Ohh there was nothing subtle in the first mass effect either if im not remembering things wrong
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 05:23    Post subject:
I guess they're intent on making this a trainwreck. This franchise is followed by an ancient curse
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 08:49    Post subject:
Bioware + romance = error. This has always been the case. I hope this one still turns out to be a fun RPG.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 09:59    Post subject:
Welp, so much for the narrative being finished. The one hope with this was at least that Mitsoda's story content was all done so that even if the game was complete garbo we could still experience the story he had planned.

Another classic franchise raped and ruined by revival.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 12:14    Post subject:
oh they serve us a "narrative" allright


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DCB




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Dec 2020 10:35    Post subject:
The latest round of news is not encouraging. The Paradox CEO has said the game is unlikely to come out until the second half of 2021:
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Apparently the writer they hired to replace Cara Ellison is some chick that worked on ME Andromeda, so that will undoubtedly work out well.

And Hardsuit has a new posting for Audio Director, a job which was apparently previously being done by Rik Schaffer and his wife. Schaffer did the music for the original Bloodlines, and was working on Bloodlines 2's music. So they have possibly quit or been fired.
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