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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 23:09    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
After reading 'AMD just smoked nvidia price to performance' in the PC games thread I thought there'd be more to it


Who said that? Going to have to see receipts and wait for reviews and real benchmarks including RT and RT/DLSS against AMD even tho they don't have solution for this yet.


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 23:11    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 23:15    Post subject:
I get where person is coming from but Ray Tracing is next generational leap and clearly nVidia has already advantage with second generation.


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 23:21    Post subject:
I watched it. Rage mode and the memory thing enabled. No RT benchmarks. Nothing about upscaling. Looks good, but as useless as Nvidia's presentation imo.
As for 3090 vs 6900, you pay premium for 24gb gddrx memory. Nvidia doesn't even market the 3090 as a gamer card.


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 23:27    Post subject:
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 23:30    Post subject:
Well, that's fucking stupid Laughing

What do you mean? I typed 3090 Mad
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Oct 2020 23:33    Post subject:
I know couple people who bought the card for gaming only and think they need the 24GB VRAM, sad thing is that they have 1440p screens aswell. Nvidia made clever marketing with the "8K Gaming", so people thought it will be super fast compared to 3080 Laughing It is nothing else than Titan with different name.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 08:10    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 08:31    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
They market it as an 8K gaming card on the 3090 nVidia page

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Plus, it features a staggering 24 GB of G6X memory, all to deliver the ultimate gaming experience.


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8K HDR GAMING
Connect, play, capture, and watch in brilliant HDR at resolutions up to 8K with GeForce RTX 3090.


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BUILT FOR 8K GAMING
GeForce RTX 3090 is a gaming beast, with incredible horsepower and a massive 24 GB frame buffer that can take on many popular games at 8K. And with HDMI 2.1 support, it enables a single cable connection from your PC to your 8K display.


https://www.nvidia.com/en-au/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

AIBs have applied all of their 'gaming' naming to it as well

But maybe you were speaking of an actual 3900, never heard of that one Cool Face



Notice how there is no a single word regarding the FPS. Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 11:18    Post subject:


Best one so far Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 11:55    Post subject:
Maybe I am missing something here, but the new ati cards aren't even out yet, right?

Then why is everyone taking for face value everything that has been said about them?

Shouldn't we at least wait for it to be a) released and b) independently tested?

Just saying...
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 12:51    Post subject:
^ Of course, never trust presentation sliders, should go without saying.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 13:06    Post subject:
inz wrote:
^ Of course, never trust presentation sliders, should go without saying.


Even if they are 100% accurate, they haven't really shown an outright advantage in most games (I think Battlefield was the biggest).

Don't get me wrong, this is a nice thing for AMD as they've managed to close the gap, but from some of the posts online you'd think they'd delivered the holy grail in GPU form.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 13:23    Post subject:
Haha yeah, judging by internet Nvidia is screwed now. It all depends on retail price, availability and how soon they'll implement their dlss counterpart IMO. If they can flood the market with properly priced 6800xt models before Cyberpunk hits, a shitton of people will buy AMD IMO.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 13:25    Post subject:
Im interested about how these new Big navi GPU´s will overclock with custom VRM and unlocked power limit, since these chips can do max 2,5Ghz, energy efficiency goes into the drain, but who cares.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 13:32    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 13:50    Post subject:
I have no idea how widespread it is, I don't game much on PC anymore. The games I am interested in in the near future, cyberpunk mainly, all seem to have dlss and rtx support.

Does the AMD tech work with the x470 chipset and a 3700x? Or do you need x570 and 5000 series Ryzen?
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 13:56    Post subject:
I have just the feeling/impression it's every time the same thing.

One brand is better in some games, the other brand better in others and both focus on those few examples like they would be representative of everything.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 14:02    Post subject:
In all those years of gpu buying I think I thought only of one particular chip as a winner, the gtx970. It was awesome for the price. The rest has always been "are the games I need to play optimized for amd or nvidia".
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 14:19    Post subject:
These days im debating should i even buy new hardware for PC, since 90% games are so fucking bad or shit console ports, i really hope this console port stuff is over with new consoles, since you can make the games already so good, there is no reason to add some derp PC only features that are so unoptimized... But i love computers, i just buy new hardware since i can and i also need it for my work side projects which makes cash for me.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 15:45    Post subject:
The fact of the matter is that the 3080 with DLSS and RTX will be streets ahead of AMD in Cyberpunk. Deal with it. Cool Face
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 15:53    Post subject:
The 6800 is quite expensive but it comes with 16GB DDR6. And the 6800 XT at only $70 more seems to be a real steal taking the performance uplift into account. BUUUUTTTT IMHO the cards are still WAAAaaaaAAaay too expensive! I actually look forward to benchmarks and reviews especially in regards to RT speed.


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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 17:50    Post subject:
tbh, when the market settles and there's plenty comparisons, I will still consider a 2080.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 19:01    Post subject:
Danyutz wrote:
tbh, when the market settles and there's plenty comparisons, I will still consider a 2080.


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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 19:41    Post subject:
Why
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 19:47    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Why


Teenagers? Cool Face

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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 19:49    Post subject:
Because local prices Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 20:05    Post subject:
2080 prices are still loco here, so only a crazy person would buy one.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2020 20:27    Post subject:
Same here for now, but in my scenario, when there will be plenty 3xxx on the market, which will keep at the same price, older gen will probably be cheaper.
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