Cyberpunk 2077 (CD Projekt RED)
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Yuri




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 15:25    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
I predict it will be an excellent game, but there will always be people complaining how much it sucks and gets boring after playing 100hrs. Very Happy

CDPR made the main quest shorter because people were complaining about the length of Witcher 3. Must have been posted before but yeah Laughing Crying or Very sad

https://wccftech.com/cyberpunk-2077-main-quest-to-be-shorter-than-the-witcher-3s-due-to-complaints

madness wrote:
It’s genre-neutral

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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 15:37    Post subject:
TW3 was full of bullshit filler anyway, so no loss if they strip some of that out. But I'm expecting there will still be loads of filler, just less main plot meat between it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 15:38    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
IS it an rpg though? Is it really?


Every preview so far has mentioned that the game is truly a RPG. And if you're expecting something else going in, you're gonna have a bad time.

Also if you know German and have some free time, check the preview from Gamestar.de, it's one of the best things I've read in a long time and it got me even more hyped.

No spoilers as well!

https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/cyberpunk-2077-gameplay-preview-hands-on,3364176.html
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 15:56    Post subject:
Ke1N wrote:
madmax17 wrote:
IS it an rpg though? Is it really?


Every preview so far has mentioned that the game is truly a RPG. And if you're expecting something else going in, you're gonna have a bad time.

Also if you know German and have some free time, check the preview from Gamestar.de, it's one of the best things I've read in a long time and it got me even more hyped.

No spoilers as well!

https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/cyberpunk-2077-gameplay-preview-hands-on,3364176.html
8 pages long? That deserves a very own Keanu Reeves statue

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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 16:06    Post subject:
Ke1N wrote:
madmax17 wrote:
IS it an rpg though? Is it really?


Every preview so far has mentioned that the game is truly a RPG. And if you're expecting something else going in, you're gonna have a bad time.

Also if you know German and have some free time, check the preview from Gamestar.de, it's one of the best things I've read in a long time and it got me even more hyped.

No spoilers as well!

https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/cyberpunk-2077-gameplay-preview-hands-on,3364176.html


Could you even be more hyped? Laughing
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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 16:07    Post subject:
Article is paywalled. I stopped reading that shit site when they started to put even some game reviews behind a paywall.
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Ke1N




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 16:10    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
Could you even be more hyped? Laughing


Fair question Laughing

Shocktrooper wrote:
Article is paywalled. I stopped reading that shit site when they started to put even some game reviews behind a paywall.


Oh damn yeah, sorry, didn't notice that.

It was free earlier today when I was reading it Embarassed
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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 16:17    Post subject:
Ke1N wrote:

Oh damn yeah, sorry, didn't notice that.

It was free earlier today when I was reading it Embarassed


No problemo, it's typical behaviour for some sites to put up articles for free for some time to get people to share them and then - bam! - paywalled.
I really enjoyed reading gamestar from time to time but this year the paywalling got out of control,. And they lied about it they said they're not gonna paywall reviews and then they did it anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 16:18    Post subject:



IMO the original soundtrack perfectly fits the atmosphere, although I'm far grom being a fan of such music on a daily basis.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 16:32    Post subject:
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/jx9nl1/all_16_hour_prereview_articles_ive_found_so_far/

Gamestar article summary

Quote:
Impressed by the story, as well as animation quality
Little cynical, as far as I can tell, worried about repeating other Open World mistakes
Wonderful German cast Vocabulary can be confusing (cyberware vs cyberdeck)
Soft level gating (too tough enemies have red skulls over their head, no levels)
World feels alive (gives an example with a monk)
Doll houses explained (which is honestly really creepy)
The game makes everyone human, even the psychos
Don't expect all choices to be a dialogue option. They can be the actions you take too (such as the way you traversed a mission)
Tutorial isn't that great, there is a lot of information to give
Extensive systems with deep exploration with each
Found melee combat impressive
Not just click and swing. Charge, swing, lung, parry are mechanics tied to stamina
Weapons can be modded (add fire damage for example)
NOT a shooter
Good AI in combat
Crafting system 'unspectacular at least visually'
Warns that they weren't that far in to get the full depth
"My look was based on values rather than style" (fixed armor values on items)


4K screenshots - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1w0iINjTXyfFSD2YQgtn9jhIEcplnDAH7


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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 16:50    Post subject:
Crafting system 'unspectacular at least visually'

Hope there's at least some degree of visual changes, if only the stats change that's not really acceptable these days. Minor nitpick in the grand scheme of things, of course, but it makes crafting more rewarding.
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flipp




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 16:51    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
Ke1N wrote:

Oh damn yeah, sorry, didn't notice that.

It was free earlier today when I was reading it Embarassed


No problemo, it's typical behaviour for some sites to put up articles for free for some time to get people to share them and then - bam! - paywalled.
I really enjoyed reading gamestar from time to time but this year the paywalling got out of control,. And they lied about it they said they're not gonna paywall reviews and then they did it anyway.


They made an exception for that article and put it for free for 24 hours, because the hype about the game is that big. Usually that article wouldn't be free to read at all.

inz wrote:
Crafting system 'unspectacular at least visually'

Hope there's at least some degree of visual changes, if only the stats change that's not really acceptable these days. Minor nitpick in the grand scheme of things, of course, but it makes crafting more rewarding.


I read some parts of the article and it's not "Gothic crafting" in their words - you can craft anywhere, you don't have to visit a crafting station. So I guess he means there are no crafting animations because it only happens in the menu?!


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DCB




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 16:53    Post subject:
inz wrote:
Crafting system 'unspectacular at least visually'

Hope there's at least some degree of visual changes, if only the stats change that's not really acceptable these days. Minor nitpick in the grand scheme of things, of course, but it makes crafting more rewarding.

My understanding is they are referring to crafting being menu-based, not something like, say, Fallen Order, where you visually mess about a bit with parts.
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Ke1N




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Updated system requirements.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 17:01    Post subject:
These sheet are completely useless, unless they point out FPS numbers.
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 17:01    Post subject:
Guess I can squeeze some 1440p on high settings Everything Went Better Than Expected

@Radicalus, I think 60fps is quite obvious.
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 17:10    Post subject:
What about 'high' on 1080 or even 720? Twisted Evil
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DCB




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 17:33    Post subject:
4K ultra on a 3070 (no RTX but presumably no DLSS either) at 60fps? Might be doable, but I'd be expecting plenty of dips.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 17:51    Post subject:
RT minimum for me Surprised Laughing Cool Face
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friketje




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 18:05    Post subject:
Weird sheet, a 3070 and 3080 don't differ that much performance wise, but you can can only 4k with rtx with an 3080?? I wonder if they have even tested this.
We have to wait and see when the game comes out how it realy performes.
Wouldn't be surprised this is for 30fps though.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 18:18    Post subject:
I think I will be playing at 1440p Ultra, rather than turn on RT


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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 18:20    Post subject:
friketje wrote:
Weird sheet, a 3070 and 3080 don't differ that much performance wise, but you can can only 4k with rtx with an 3080?? I wonder if they have even tested this.
We have to wait and see when the game comes out how it realy performes.
Wouldn't be surprised this is for 30fps though.


Its substantially more powerfull. Its almost 40% faster on average, at 4k, than the 3070. The difference is enormous. There are games where the gap is mind blowing. 3080 is 67% faster in Resident Evil 3. 59% faster in Ghost Recon Breakpoint. 51% faster in Doom Eternal.


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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 18:46    Post subject:
friketje wrote:
Weird sheet, a 3070 and 3080 don't differ that much performance wise

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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 20:08    Post subject:
qqq wrote:
friketje wrote:
Weird sheet, a 3070 and 3080 don't differ that much performance wise, but you can can only 4k with rtx with an 3080?? I wonder if they have even tested this.
We have to wait and see when the game comes out how it realy performes.
Wouldn't be surprised this is for 30fps though.


Its substantially more powerfull. Its almost 40% faster on average, at 4k, than the 3070. The difference is enormous. There are games where the gap is mind blowing. 3080 is 67% faster in Resident Evil 3. 59% faster in Ghost Recon Breakpoint. 51% faster in Doom Eternal.



No it isn't. I'm not a hardware nut or something but this is the first google link i found

only 20-25 % or so better for a 3080 compared to a 3070. True, older games, few have rtx features. But both cards are in the same league. While the gap between 2k and 4k is huge.
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qqq




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 20:16    Post subject:
Yes, it is. I took the results from actual websites that have tested them. Let me know if you desire links. Its not 20%, its almost 40, as i've said. That video is bullshit. There are a lot of noname channels on youtube where you just get an intro and some slides or some random footage of videogames and they plaster some results over there, usually that have nothing in common with what more established sites get. They're just inventing results and make videos for traffic, they dont have the cards.

When i gave you the 40% faster and those more detailed results for Resident Evil and Doom i didnt pull them out of my ass, i looked at the website and what they got at 4k. Its 40%, not 20. Meaning the difference between a 3070 and a 3080 is extremely large. Enough that a game could be barelly playable on the 3070 and doing 60 on the 3080
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 20:56    Post subject:
Can't quite get the hype with this one...just not my setting I guess...
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Nov 2020 20:59    Post subject:
What is your setting?
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