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Sin317
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Yeah, not really the same thing.
I like the X Games, including X4.
My review was based on the sad fact, that it was released rushed and unfinished, what some might call an early access/alpha.
But every X Game, at least since X3 Reunion, followed that pattern.
I still like the gameplay, the combat, the ecomony etc.
-WHEN IT WORKS-
Heck, I even wrote at the end:
| Quote: | | Don't buy this game in its current state, it's an alpha AT BEST. |
But I guess that flew right over that trolls head... as per usual.
I find it entertaining tho, that apparently someone is so obsessed with me, that they go through my steam reviews etc. just to troll me...
But I am the toxic one oO
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Sin317
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Nov 2020 09:28 Post subject: |
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Nov 2020 09:38 Post subject: |
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I have had enough of it, it's now in the phase of constant back and forth arguments. Now even with the "no you" child nonsense.
It's not trolling, it's the reward for being so overly obsessive and hypocritical of anyone who had something as simple as mentioning a bug, including condescending replies out of nowhere.
But of course it may not speak volumes to you Sin that I, who previously had thought you would simply be criticised for liking the game and that the jokes were highly exaggarated about ignoring issues, but then you went on and on so I had to realise that you have the same attitude as the very people you're complaining about.
Who am I kidding though, trying to find sense in a seemingly self-centric person whose only opinion that counts, is his own.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Nov 2020 17:04 Post subject: |
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Best AC Combat was in Unity IMO. I liked the slower more realistic pace which they should have improved on. Stealth was also better in that game when it wasn't being a buggy piece of shit.
That also had the best visual design with the outfits feeling like something you could cobble together during the era. They should bring back that designer because the designer for this game is of the same ilk as those guys who think a gold plated lambo / suv is cool.
That said I only played Unity in 2018 or so due to reports of how much of a mess it was and well I suppose it still is.
I also really liked the parkour and the details of Paris. Too bad they stepped away from that.
Too bad Unity has a very shit story so I never really got to finishing it, speaking of which I changed my mind on the writing now that I've soldiered on and progressed the story. It's not very good and still feels disjointed.
They should have gotten rid of these other arcs which don't really add much to the overall story and instead used the resources for these on giving us more quests / events with Sigurd and Dag so that their character "development" isn't spontaneous.
Gustave the Steel
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What an absolute piece of shit optimization in this average looking game...
90% GPU usage in loading screen.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Nov 2020 00:36 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | Now we know you're an idiot...
You do realise, that the "loading screen" is being rendered and you can move and fight etc. |
You just insulted me without reason.
For the record, been playing AC games since roaming Acre was possible. It's just not normal to have the GPU at 90% while rendering that stupid fog and the main character, moving or not.
I also hope we also take a break from your ignorance. It'll be a refreshing change around here. |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Nov 2020 00:53 Post subject: |
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The whole scene is being rendered... how do you not understand this?
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Nov 2020 02:27 Post subject: |
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Absolute garbage optimization here.
Fornburg, everything on LOW details, 90% GPU utilization at 60FPS limited with MSI Afterburner.
Even RDR2 with ultra/high/medium settings keeps up Saint Denis at night, in rain, constant 60FPS.
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ahoymen
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Nov 2020 04:10 Post subject: |
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Much arguing, but lets get serious... crack, men?
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Nov 2020 11:06 Post subject: |
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i play in ultra, no problems with shuttering
| Sin317 wrote: | | while you can't "turn gay", you can cut off your balls. believe me, you'll never think of women again. |
| zmed wrote: | | Or just a defense mechanism. If you fart, you'll most definitely smell it so your brain tells you it ain't bad as strangerfarts. |
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Nov 2020 13:09 Post subject: |
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When you have full GPU utilization in the loading screen when all there's rendered is your character and some damn fog, something's off.
Also, that 64 FPS for the 3070GTX... 
I want my €14.999999999 back.
| speedgear wrote: | | i play in ultra, no problems with shuttering |
Thank you SO much. This must be one of the most informative and useful posts I've read in a while.
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@qqq
Damn, those numbers are really bad.
What have they done with this game?! Origins and Odyssey look cleaner and often better than this...
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Nov 2020 15:53 Post subject: |
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Just live with it, optimisation for pc gaming sucks. Now amd cards have a slight advantage.
Can't blame the devs though (although wtf ubi, most people use nvidia, get that one straight instead of amd). Take cyberpunk. They wait a couple of months to deliver the next gen console version. They could release something next genish now with some extra post processing but they don't. The delay is for optimisation only, for a single system. Then take pc gaming with endless combinations of hardware. Games will never make optimal use of your hardware.
The real problem of this game is shown in the 1440p tab though: the lower 1% fps is killing it.
So for this game, you need a 3090 to play the game in ultra... in hd.
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Nov 2020 18:53 Post subject: |
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Tested the game with everything on LOW settings and guess what: GPU is still at 90% in many areas. Just...
Let me say it again: EVERYTHING ON LOW and the GPU still struggles at 90% utilization.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Nov 2020 19:31 Post subject: |
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Well the game does look good, it's one of best looking games, top 3 imho. Performance could be better with some optimisation (for most for nvidia cards) but there isn't all that much to gain. And no RTX off course, but who cares.
It's just: this is what a pc can do. And it's a shame that gpu's nowdays are way to expensive so that you need a 1000 euro + rig to even run this with a decent framerate. (there was i time i refused to buy a high end card for 500 euro's and the 200 euro alternative was still good enough for a couple of years) It's the law of diminshing returns. The newest hardware just doesn't give that much eye candy and the most noticiable feature of a new gpu demanding game is a drop in FPS for most.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Nov 2020 19:37 Post subject: |
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Nothing from what I've seen looks "top 3" "best looking". It looks like a gray Origins/Odyssey, with terrible animations and facial expressions. RDR2 looks much, much better, and runs much, much better. Certainly nothing here warrants such woeful performance.
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Nov 2020 19:53 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Nothing from what I've seen looks "top 3" "best looking". It looks like a gray Origins/Odyssey, with terrible animations and facial expressions. RDR2 looks much, much better, and runs much, much better. Certainly nothing here warrants such woeful performance. |
True for the animations and facial expressions, those suck. RDR2 is also way better designed with a lot of attention to detail But that doesn't effect your fps. I also have to agree thatRDR2 is still the benchmark for a good looking game. Keep in mind though that people were not impressed with rdr2 performance wise at release. The same goes for Valhalla. It's about the best you can get with a current high end pc.
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LeoNatan
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But RDR2 also wasn't properly optimized. Or rather, it offered diminishing resutls in its settings, that made almost zero change in visual fidelity. But at console settings, which is the only settings the engine is optimized for, RDR2 runs rock solid. It's by no means the case here with Derphalla. It happens with every generation; Ubitards are just incapable of making a proper engine. You had the same in Unity, R6 Vegas and so on. Eventually, their engine works better.
"It's about the best you can get with a current high end pc."
It's not. It's neither good looking enough, nor is it justifiably stressing the "high end PC". It's a shit game that shouldn't be supported until patched. Just like any modern Ubisoft game.
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spajdr
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Nov 2020 20:14 Post subject: |
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I don't have any issues with 6800XT, getting 100fps avg at 1440P MAX settings.
And that's without SAM, coz got Intel CPU.
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Nov 2020 22:00 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | | Are you still using that frame limiter? |
Yes.
| LeoNatan wrote: | | Nothing from what I've seen looks "top 3" "best looking". It looks like a gray Origins/Odyssey, with terrible animations and facial expressions. RDR2 looks much, much better, and runs much, much better. Certainly nothing here warrants such woeful performance. |
This.
People either haven't played RDR2, either their standards are - disappointingly, I might add - fairly low. Have you seen the lack of depth and rigid / simple terrain geometry?! Even Origins looks better than this.
| spajdr wrote: | I don't have any issues with 6800XT, getting 100fps avg at 1440P MAX settings.
And that's without SAM, coz got Intel CPU. |
That's quite sHocKinG, bRo!!1 |
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Nov 2020 22:40 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Nothing from what I've seen looks "top 3" "best looking". It looks like a gray Origins/Odyssey, with terrible animations and facial expressions. RDR2 looks much, much better, and runs much, much better. Certainly nothing here warrants such woeful performance. |
RDR2 does indeed look a scientific metric fuckton better. And not only technically but artistically as well (inner, darker spaces are grey shit in this game).
But the fact, that it is choppy even on decent frames on a 3080 running 2 Ghz, and is a lot smoother on a fucking console (PS5) is simply sad.
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Nov 2020 22:55 Post subject: |
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124h to do the 100%
2h to move to uk(intro)
89h to clean the map Wealth/Mysteries/Artifact & small chest
15h to fully clean Asgard/Jotunheim/Vinland
the rest to do the main quest
the story is same lvl as any 2020'netflix shows(mostly bad)
ending is not great
Mysteries were made by child ?
many many bugs more than the 2 previous game
21 enemys + 15 building asset x 15 regions
killing an Order of the Ancients = winning a telenovela speech by odin
for me the game is the worst of trilogy
ubisoft can say thank to the cyberpunk 2077 report & ubisoft+
15euros for this game + the not so great too "watch dog légion"(40h)it s ok
ass odyssey+dlc 140h for the 100%
ass origin+dlc 84h fo the 100%
live for music die for music (Bassline Junkie)
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benchmark gives me min of 5 fps, max of 145, and avg of 74, on ultra. The graph is something like a heartbeat 
UbiOptimization strikes again.
