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couleur
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Of course more is always better but the added value for the price on 1200p@60Hz becomes less important imo. Especially when you’re going to run in a CPU bottlneck faster.
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Nov 2020 13:17 Post subject: |
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Do you guys think that a (used) 3080/6800xt in the future (say in ~2 years) would be overkill for 1080p@144hz? I'm currently on a 1080.
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couleur
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Nov 2020 13:18 Post subject: |
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At 144Hz it would be pretty good.
edit: But in 2 years there will probably be mid range cards with similar performance.
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Nov 2020 13:34 Post subject: |
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My 5950/3080 is struggling to reach 1080p 120fps on max details (+ RTX) on last/current year games.
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couleur
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Nov 2020 13:35 Post subject: |
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With RTX, yes.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Nov 2020 13:40 Post subject: |
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RTX will only be on when playing on my max 60 fps TV
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Nov 2020 23:33 Post subject: |
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OK.
I've been offered a KFA2 GeForce RTX 3090 SG @ £1499.00 delivered. I've also been offered an EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 @ the scalped up price of £1099.00 delivered (not the worst I've seen, by any means), and bearing in mind, that I already have a 3090 waterblock from way back, and that I'd need to buy a block for the 3080 (around £200 with backplate).
Which would you go for? £1500 is budget for this system regardless, so value is more a factor than cost, and taking into consideration today's circumstances, aka, that or nothing, unless one waits a very long time 
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tonizito
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Nov 2020 23:45 Post subject: |
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Neither.
I'd wait for "normal" prices (unless 1500€ is the "normal" price for the 3090) because fuck scalpers and stores selling marked up cards 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 01:01 Post subject: |
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Guys, as I said, It's not the money  Where we are, is where we are ATM, and one can't be too choosy if one wants NOW!!!
Both are shit value when it comes down to that, lol, but I'm given a choice AMD for GPU is not an option, no thx, as for one, it would require a monitor that supports Freesync, which will add in a whole heap of extra cost, and two, the God awful drivers. Not to say Nvidia's offerings are much better, but at least I can strip most of the utter shit from them beforehand.
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 01:23 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 01:41 Post subject: |
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Yes, what I was thinking, but factoring in the block etc., just falls short of the price of the 3090, but maybe the lesser of the two evils? I certainly don't agree with the mark up on the 3080, but we are at a position now where we will be waiting forever for these cards. Granted, the 3080ti/3090ti are probably just around the corner?, but the exact same is going to happen there. They will all be bought up in a snap before anyone has a chance, scalped on the Bay, and pre-orders galore, yada-yada, same old. The 5900/5950X has fell into the same category now also, so when does it all end? Not for a good while I suspect, and one could be waiting forever at this rate.
I may just grit my teeth and pay the extra, and put it all down to the times we are now living in
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 01:53 Post subject: |
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If your happy spending $1500 euro on a card thats 10% faster than one for $900 or whatever then go for it. I dont like feeling ripped off and I dont think its worth paying more than (2x in my region) just because I want it now. It's for one game as well for me, I don't play/care about any of the console games from UBI, EA and Acti like most of you guys.
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 02:09 Post subject: |
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| AmpegV4 wrote: | | If your happy spending $1500 euro on a card thats 10% faster than one for $900 or whatever then go for it. I dont like feeling ripped off and I dont think its worth paying more than (2x in my region) just because I want it now. It's for one game as well for me, I don't play/care about any of the console games from UBI, EA and Acti like most of you guys. |
I'm not happy with anything. The 3080, I'm getting ripped off also, and if anything, more so than the 3090, MSRP wise. There is no £400 'mark up' on the 3090, in fact, pretty good by today's standards. The 3080 should be £750, but I'm offered it at £1099, so regardless of what is X% faster, the 3090 does have 14Gb more VRAM than the 3080, which is nothing to be sniffed at, although not worth double the cost at normal MSRP prices. Trouble is, MSRP counts for nothing today
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 02:32 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 03:46 Post subject: |
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Fuck it! Went for 3090, in for a penny, in for a pound lol. Have block already, and didn't want to give the scalper his loose change The 3090 will do me for a long time, no matter, as there is always gonna be something else better coming along regardless. Already though, despite opting for the usual 'next day' delivery service, they are warning that due to the situation, it can take 5-7 days extra for delivery, lol, and this is just 'delivery' services were talking about, so yeah, nothing moving much at all.
It will be a nice upgrade from my 1080ti though, which I will frame, and have displayed above my bed in all it's glory
Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut and block awaits, along with a nice 390w BIOS to flash. Might have to replace one piece of tubing, as card is longer?, but hopefully not the rest lol. Hoping for a swap in, swap out mostly
If I'm honest, the VRAM is what sold it for me, although hardly needed ATM, well apart from FS2020, going from 11Gb to 10 just seems like a kick in the teeth?, so 24 will see me through nicely, and I guess that's where the money goes
I'll be able to run CyberDerp @ 590fps next week (non 4k), if it arrives lol  Is 'ultra' really the highest setting you have?, and when is the HD++ Extra Textures Ultra Pack gonna be available for download?, the one that uses most of my 24Gb VRAM? 
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 07:07 Post subject: |
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If you could get the Asus TUF 3080 OC or the Gigabyte Gaming 3080 OC, which one would be the one to buy? The Asus seems to be cool a bit better and the Gigabyte seems to clock a bit higher. Gigabyte also has an extra year of warranty, but I never used warranty on any GPU ever. Reviews seem to give the Gigabyte an edge, but I never bought anything from Gigabyte before.
Any help would be appreciated.
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 07:20 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | If you could get the Asus TUF 3080 OC or the Gigabyte Gaming 3080 OC, which one would be the one to buy? The Asus seems to be cool a bit better and the Gigabyte seems to clock a bit higher. Gigabyte also has an extra year of warranty, but I never used warranty on any GPU ever. Reviews seem to give the Gigabyte an edge, but I never bought anything from Gigabyte before.
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the card which will cost less and even if it's just 10 euros. they don't make much difference, maybe you will get 5 fps more, maybe you get unlucky with the silicon and it will be exactly the same, maybe not, who knows. just buy the cheapest you can get, as long as the cooler is good and mostly quiet, everything is fine. fuck 5 fps more or less
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 07:59 Post subject: |
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The TUF is the superior card, and by God, I tried to get one, but silly prices and all. They boobed with that one though. They made very little difference between the normal and OC version, in fact, nothing. You will find that these cards are very rare now.
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 08:33 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | If you could get the Asus TUF 3080 OC or the Gigabyte Gaming 3080 OC, which one would be the one to buy? The Asus seems to be cool a bit better and the Gigabyte seems to clock a bit higher. Gigabyte also has an extra year of warranty, but I never used warranty on any GPU ever. Reviews seem to give the Gigabyte an edge, but I never bought anything from Gigabyte before.
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Taking into account what happened to my GIGANTE 1070, I'd chose the chASUS card this time 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 08:38 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 08:54 Post subject: |
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just checking prices, converted to euro of the options here:
6800 (N/A pre-order, cheapest non MSI card): $660 euro
3080 (N/A pre-order, cheapest non MSI card): $850 euro
3090 (available, cheapest non MSI card): $1784 euro o_0
3090 OC edition (dont ask me how they are selling these): $2100 euro
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 09:28 Post subject: |
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So what are the dutch prices?
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 10:52 Post subject: |
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I paid 797 for the asus tuf oc and 849 for the gigabyte gaming oc. MSRP for asus is the one I paid, gigabyte is supposed to be 770.
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 11:47 Post subject: |
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Good prices 
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tonizito
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Dec 2020 11:48 Post subject: |
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I'm jelly of those prices bro!
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i have to turn on DLSS to have over 60fps minimum @1080p with RTX ON
. Not going to do that shit though 
