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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 21:43    Post subject:
im guessing this symbol means a quest/activity/whatever ? ive seen it in more places; cant to talk to her and scanning does nothing

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dethy




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 21:44    Post subject:
Holy shit. All costs associated with development and marketing have been recouped:

https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2020/12/current-report-no-652020.pdf

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Ryzen 5950x @ boosting 5ghz, Gigabyte x570 Aorus Master, 32gb G.Skill Trident Neo pc3600 ram, nVidia RTX 5080, SoundBlasterX G6, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 1TB and Hynix m.2 1TB storage SSD. Custom watercooling loop.

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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 21:52    Post subject:
well 8 million copies sold isnt exacty happening that often

it be suicidal to not already be in profit at this stage
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sunseeker




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 21:56    Post subject:
Ok, finally got around to play it. Not too invested in the story yet, just met Dexter DeShawn so I'm basically redoing the promo gameplays and shit.

Bugs are minimal so far. I play a shitload of early access games so I have a high tolerance for glitches and even them feel more Bethesda-grade. Had to reload a save once, before the Sandra Dorsett mission when the shard in Jackies hand didn't load. The other were meh... Jackie phasing through the elvator door, phasing between animations, people from crowds being janky. No biggie.

What I'm annoyed at is the performance and the filmic 45-55fps on the rig from my signature. Stuff looks simultaneously good... and bad with weird AA ghosting artifacts, overdone bloom, weird dithering on beards and shit. Seemingly a lot of graphical options which amount to not much.

What's hilarious is the subreddit Laughing before the launch they were expecting the game to be the second coming of jesus, but now it's a shitshow of dissapointment.
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vurt




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 21:58    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
im guessing this symbol means a quest/activity/whatever ? ive seen it in more places; cant to talk to her and scanning does nothing


magnifying glass should indicate something to investigate... can you sneak and steal from her?
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Ke1N




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 22:10    Post subject:
Or you can try to scan her and maybe some additional info will pop-up?
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Kater Mikesch




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 22:17    Post subject:
1.4 GB miracle patch just arrived on steam
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 22:22    Post subject:
3.5GB here
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Ke1N




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 22:23    Post subject:
Here is the changelog:

 Spoiler:
 


https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/news/37043/hotfix-1-04
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 22:23    Post subject:
Danyutz wrote:
Anyone knows what's with all this grainy effect? No film effect, CA are activated ..



Found the culprit, it's the space screen reflections, turning it off removes the dithering/graining.
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Kater Mikesch




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 22:25    Post subject:
sunseeker wrote:
What's hilarious is the subreddit Laughing before the launch they were expecting the game to be the second coming of jesus, but now it's a shitshow of dissapointment.


Well, I guess it is a disappointment... there are so many things that feel unpolished or where you can guess that it was cut in development. AI is maybe the worst offender, I mean pedestrians don't react to you or the world in any meaningful way and enemies are just plain stupid most of the time.

I still don't regret buying it, like I wrote before, the setting is what makes this so attractive for me, but there is so much wasted potential here... I hope CDPR will support this game the same as they did for Witcher 3, could be an excellent game with enough patching and maybe one or two DLC.


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zmed




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 22:25    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
im guessing this symbol means a quest/activity/whatever ? ive seen it in more places; cant to talk to her and scanning does nothing
That symbol is for mission-related stuff you can scan.
h0rnyfavn wrote:
Extended Network Interface - How does it work?

I'm about to deal with Royce and so far I've seen only one access point,the one you need to hack for the quest.

How does this perk work?
You'll see red blips on the radar and HUD. That's where you can plug your dongle into things, and either syphon money or do some situational stuff.


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.Bole




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 22:26    Post subject:
Ke1N wrote:
Here is the changelog:

 Spoiler:
 


https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/news/37043/hotfix-1-04


So pretty much none of performance or other stuff, just quick fixes to crashes as i suppose and issues with quests that can block you.

That site someone posted was fake
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 22:29    Post subject:
Kater Mikesch wrote:
1.4 GB miracle patch just arrived on steam

nice, exited to download it
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Yuri




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 22:39    Post subject:
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kb2jgj/i_just_realized_that_there_is_no_ai_for_driving/

Laughing

The full OST is here btw:


1 and 2 are still amazing.
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AKofC




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 22:42    Post subject:
Kater Mikesch wrote:
sunseeker wrote:
What's hilarious is the subreddit Laughing before the launch they were expecting the game to be the second coming of jesus, but now it's a shitshow of dissapointment.


Well, I guess it is a disappointment... there are so many things that feel unpolished or where you can guess that it was cut in development. AI is maybe the worst offender, I mean pedestrians don't react to you or the world in any meaningful way and enemies are just plain stupid most of the time.

I still don't regret buying it, like I wrote before, the setting is what makes this so attractive for me, but there is so much wasted potential here... I hope CDPR will support this game the same as they did for Witcher 3, could be an excellent game with enough patching and maybe one or two DLC.


Yeah. The AI adds to the feeling of how dead the city is. Like it's populated by robots instead of people.

AI can't actually drive and just seem to follow roads brainlessly, so it's like the cars are really just trains. I can shoot at a moving car and the driver will just carry on like nothing is happening.

Gustave the Steel
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vurt




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 22:46    Post subject:
Yuri wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kb2jgj/i_just_realized_that_there_is_no_ai_for_driving/


Pretty weak, especially for a game that's been in development for so long.
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Clevesa




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 22:47    Post subject:
The AI in combat is one of the worst I've ever seen. They just stand and stare at me, and I'm playing at the highest difficulty. Really kills the game for me.
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couleur
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 23:05    Post subject:
Decided to stop playing this. Performance is okish and the game definately has potential but I'm going to enjoy it more in a few months when more bugs are ironed out.

Maybe I'll even buy it sometime.

"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 23:16    Post subject:
Same. Tried a bit, but i'll have to make too many compromises for the gfx settings. Gonna wait until i get my hand on a new gfx card
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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 23:17    Post subject:
yeah first impressions here weren't promising, the scene where ur riding in the car with dex, most of the dialogue wasn't lipsynced and it was just him with his mouth closed while the audio played. Pretty fucking weird for a first mission.
Barely have time to play anyway lots of work maybe in a few weeks I'll DL the patches and give it a try.
Performance on an rx 580 8GB is okay with most options on high and a few on medium.
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oblaz




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 23:20    Post subject:
Intel Core i5-4690K @ 3.50GHz + ASUS ROG STRIX RX 5600 XT OC + DDR3 G.SKILL RipjawsX CL9 2133MHz 4x4GB + SSD + 1080p + Disable fullscreen optimisation = minimum 40 FPS @ 100 fov @ ultra so far noticed (I just came back to home in-game first time). I'm really surprised how well it run on my rig Smile

Edit: newest AMD drivers
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BettyShikle




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 23:30    Post subject:
this gives me mixed vibes,it has part of BLOODLINES but way more of BOILING POINT right now,and not the good parts of BP [AI is braindead,no faction system of any kind,cars are like dead cows in space, gunplay is abysmal shitty] etc ppc

paxsali wrote:

Now, I don't know what hardware costs in Poland, I guess it's cheaper because everything is stolen from Germany and resold...
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vurt




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 23:31    Post subject:
oblaz wrote:
Intel Core i5-4690K @ 3.50GHz + ASUS ROG STRIX RX 5600 XT OC + DDR3 G.SKILL RipjawsX CL9 2133MHz 4x4GB + SSD + 1080p + Disable fullscreen optimisation = minimum 40 FPS @ 100 fov @ ultra so far noticed (I just came back to home in-game first time). I'm really surprised how well it run on my rig Smile

Edit: newest AMD drivers


quite a few have said the performance at start means nothing, it's when the game opens up the performance drops.

edit: wow.. new record for single player game on Steam, one million players at once.
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Blakx




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 23:37    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Yuri wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kb2jgj/i_just_realized_that_there_is_no_ai_for_driving/


Pretty weak, especially for a game that's been in development for so long.


I knew something was fishy with traffic. That's just weak.
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vurt




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 23:45    Post subject:
wonder if AI is turned off for traffic and turned down a lot for enemies for performance reasons, since they're really struggling with that.. its not like they could do it just for consoles either, that would piss console people off that PC players gets better AI. just speculating, because i think it seems odd that the AI is so abysmal.

its not like it would be the first time we see something like that done in the last minute to fix performance.. i would not be surprised if we will get much improved AI one they've tweaked the performance.


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Blakx




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 23:50    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
wonder if AI is turned off for traffic and turned down a lot for enemies for performance reasons, since they're really struggling with that.. its not like they could do it just for consoles either, that would piss console people off that PC players gets better AI. just speculating, because i think it seems odd that the AI is so abysmal.

its not like it would be the first time we see something like that done in the last minute to fix performance..


Honestly I doubt it. I think they didn't have enough time to program a traffic AI so they decided to make the cars drive on rails Sad
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vurt




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 23:52    Post subject:
Blakx wrote:
vurt wrote:
wonder if AI is turned off for traffic and turned down a lot for enemies for performance reasons, since they're really struggling with that.. its not like they could do it just for consoles either, that would piss console people off that PC players gets better AI. just speculating, because i think it seems odd that the AI is so abysmal.

its not like it would be the first time we see something like that done in the last minute to fix performance..


Honestly I doubt it. I think they didn't have enough time to programm a traffic AI so they decided to make the cars drive on rails Sad


they only had what, 8 years. quite a big team? even games like GTA 3 had that.. no, again, it seems odd, this is not a small indie game.
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Blakx




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Dec 2020 23:57    Post subject:
vurt wrote:

they only had what, 8 years. quite a big team? even games like GTA 3 had that.. no, again, it seems odd, this is not a small indie game.


One would think 8 years should be more than enough to get 'simple' things like this right. I don't know what they were doing all this time but at the same time I have no clue about programming games.

You can see they love details (hand placed trash...) but on the other side this game lack mandatory things (traffic AI, nearly no interaction with the world...). In my opinion they didn't get the priorities right. Rockstar Games is superior in this regard.

One more detail I noticed which annoys me. When you rescue NPCs on these little side missions they just keep cowering on the ground without ever thanking you


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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Dec 2020 00:01    Post subject:
you keep forgetting in the first 3-4 years the team was very small probably, witcher 3 got all the focus around 2014 2015
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