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Neon
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 Posted: Mon, 25th Jun 2018 19:12 Post subject: |
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See if you can find a used good condition Sonos, they're top line for powered sound bars, but expensive if bought new.
If not them, I whole heatedly love the Yamaha series. I bought my dad one and it sounds great for what it is, tested it out on my system.
Has a subwoofer hookup for it too so you can add any one you want later on down the road instead of being stuck with whatever it comes with. Simple subwoofer (single RCA) cable and you're good. Adding a sub in later would let your smaller drivers breath better to focus on the mids/highs. Even a cheapo Polk PSW10 would work great with it (if you wanted that option later). The built in subwoofer can put out more bass than I thought it would be able to. I tested it at my parents place and I could hear the bass upstairs.
YAS-108 is the newest one
https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Surround-Bluetooth-Soundbar-YAS-108/dp/B07D73HMVR
The dobly X (atmos shit) is a bit gimmicky but does work in some movies for bouncing sound off the cieling. Really cool sounding on Dunkirk and Kong but imagine you won't notice it at all if any.
Klipsch has one, no need to mention their reputation:
https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-10B-Bluetooth-Soundbar-Subwoofer/dp/B00M0SQM2U
JBL, they're not the high end they used to be but they still make good shit:
https://www.amazon.com/JBL-Soundbar-Wireless-Subwoofer-Bluetooth/dp/B075SH93CL
These are all obviously USD prices, dunno where you shop at over in Neonland. Some people like Vizio/Sony and all those cheapo ones but I tend to stick with companies who specialize in sound. I think you'll be plenty happy with that Yammy.
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jun 2018 20:05 Post subject: |
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I have this for years.. works great:
Vizio VSB200 HD sound bar(REFURB) for $30 After rebate
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| Posted: Thu, 19th Jul 2018 13:55 Post subject: |
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I don't think soundbars are worth it, if you are looking for per dollar parity in sound quality with other setups.
I managed to snag a really good discount on a Focal Dimension - they sound great, but I bought it at 40% price basically, and even then it cost a lot!
Movies sound absolutely stellar with very clear voices, balanced lows.
Others that sounded really good were the Q Acoustics M4 and M2. Those are the best value, that you can find imho, from a recognized, and very good brand.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Jan 2021 17:35 Post subject: |
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Finally bought a soundbar for our TV and omg what a difference.
We had some Logitech Speakers for the last 2 years (40ish$) and well, the sound was as expected, lol. Anyway, now we have this:
https://www.digitec.ch/de/s1/product/sony-ht-sf150-120w-soundbar-7500113
100€~ and fuck me, what a difference. It's 120W, supports HDMI arc, optical, Bluetooth, USB
we use it with HDMI ARC, so now we only need the apple tv remote to control everything.
Anyway, cost/performance ratio, excellent I'd say. Sounds are clear and you can distinguish every sound, no matter how "noisy" the scene is. With the "cheap" Logitech speakers, as soon as there was a loud source, anything else was muffled basically.
10/10
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Jan 2021 17:59 Post subject: |
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When it comes to sound, I find it usually best to buy from companies that produce nothing else, but sound equipment.
Never found anything logitech related, that sounded right. Ever.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Jan 2021 18:44 Post subject: |
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a bar of such tiny surfaces can impossibly create 'good' sound
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Sin317
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Jan 2021 19:09 Post subject: |
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couleur
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Jan 2021 19:21 Post subject: |
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| PickupArtist wrote: | | a bar of such tiny surfaces can impossibly create 'good' sound |
Compared to what he had before I'm sure its really good, relatively speaking. Especially for the price.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Sin317
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Jan 2021 20:03 Post subject: |
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I am convinced that a good sound setup is by far more important to experience a movie than a large TV screen. The audio creates the space and the presence.
I still use a 46" 1080p TV but have not felt the need to upgrade yet. Though those OLED TVs sure are becoming tempting, I'm holding out still. My sound setup is a 10y old 5.1 Teufel Motiv 3, that I partly bought because I liked the aesthetic at the time but it got good reviews for its size too. https://www.areadvd.de/hardware/2009/teufel_motiv3.shtml
And the Onkyo reciever was 300€ at the time.
All in all 800€ for a setup that works well for me, but I'm sure sound specialists will say they can get alot better for less money.
Long story short, if your 100€ soundbar sounds amazing for you, then enjoy it! I think its pretty incredible what can be achieved with these tiny setups nowadays. Nothing for purists, sure, but incredible still.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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vurt
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jan 2021 02:20 Post subject: |
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my projector screen is 124", a soundbar for that would not make sense, it would take me out of the experience. they're a little better than TV sound in my experience, but not by THAT much (i've not heard any super expensive ones though, just in the 150 dollar range or so).
i'm still on an old 5.1 setup, big speakers.. not sure i think it's worth upgrading to anything newer/better.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jan 2021 02:49 Post subject: |
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Yeah, even the very best soundbars are not that great, not worth the cost for them IMO. Sure, they are miles better than the in-built TV jobs, but you are better off with a decent amp and speakers, that will do great for streaming music also. Unless you wish a 10.1 setup with surround miniatures in every corner of the room?, it really ain't worth it.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jan 2021 07:38 Post subject: |
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I have a Polaroid 65" 4K TV. The sound is abysmal, hence why I bought the Logitech speakers for it back then. It was unwatchable otherwise.
Anyway, now the sound is great with this Sony sound bar. Dunno why some people here have to doubt anything anyone say constantly, but guess that's in their nature...
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jan 2021 07:58 Post subject: |
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Between "sound is great" with your soundbar and "sound is great" with a decent 5.1 or even 2.1 setup there is a huge difference.
Its relative. People who already have invested in higher-end setups will most certainly not feel like a 100€ soundbar would be able to produce good sound. But by their standards, not yours, coming from logitech speakers.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Sin317
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jan 2021 08:04 Post subject: |
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So you're saying a 1000€ setup will sound better than a 100€ one?
You're starting to sound really patronising, you know?
Just saying...
Why do I even bother, lol.
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vurt
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jan 2021 08:49 Post subject: |
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I read some reviews on a Swedish shop because i got curious, it varied from "no improvement over my TV" to "Great". it had a 3/5 score. It's probably decent for the money but it also depends on the TV, TV sound can range from horrible to decent.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jan 2021 08:58 Post subject: |
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My phone has better sound, than this TV, lol. And I mean my phone from 10 years ago, not the one I have now.
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