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| AmpegV4 wrote: | | PredOborG wrote: | | blackeyedboy wrote: | | The most disappointing aspect of this whole story are not the game's problems, which are serious and imo unfixable, but the fact that people are defending this as being a great game. |
Sorry but this is such a stupid statement. |
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Hey, hey, avid fans!
Glad to see you are defending vividly, in a cultured and respectful way this piece of technology called Cyberjunk 2077.
I'm gonna reply to you _ in the most polite and intelligible way my stupid mind can do:
1. CP2077 is an objectively broken, mess of a game that had it's developers lying and bullshitting us.
2. Therefore, you can't objectively evaluate this game as being "great".
3. Also, you can't, using objective arguments DEFEND this game - as a WHOLE! - as being "great", when it's obviously not.
4.A. SOME PARTS of it might be great, yes, but not the whole SUM of the game.
4.B. The whole SUM of the game might not be great, but some parts might be.
4.C. The game might not be great, and also some parts are not great.
4.D. Some parts are not great, but when you put them together they are still not great.
5. Don't mistake what it could be, what it might have been, what it will be maybe someday, with what it is NOW: a not great game.
Addendum: _
Yes, you CAN live in your imaginary world - and it's perfectly fine to do so - and think whatever you want, but don't pretend for others to share your fantasies (if you like the smell and taste of rotten eggs, that's your problem, not other's).
Conclusion: _
If you use the word "great" to describe Cyberpunk 2077 today and then defend it as being "great" take the fucking responsibility and prove it!
But guess what? You can't. |
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jan 2021 15:19 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jan 2021 16:17 Post subject: |
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| blackeyedboy wrote: |
If you use the word "great" to describe Cyberpunk 2077 today and then defend it as being "great" take the fucking responsibility and prove it!
But guess what? You can't. |
Tell me how you describe something that makes you have fun? You get happy? You have sense of pride and accomplishment? Makes you smile or chuckle? And who told you the game is great? Everyone defending the game here agrees there are problems - be it bugs, bad AI or some tedious quests. But hear me out - there are other words other than GREAT and TERRIBLE. YES? Unbelievable, you say? No, no. Listen, there is a word like GOOD, G-O-O-D ! Mindblowing isn't it?! It's a word that's between GREAT and TERRIBLE. Something like the grey is between the white and black.
Game IS GOOD! Not great, not terrible. But good. I still have fun, I like the combat, the side quests, the story, the world still looks great, many unique weapons. I don't have to love 100% of something to like it. You can like pizza but not pineapple pizza. Understand? Stop fucking thinking in black and white. There are other colours, even many of them. To tell me "STOP HAVING FUN" is like if I tell you stop breathing. Will you do it, just because someone tells you to?
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jan 2021 16:37 Post subject: |
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| PredOborG wrote: | | blackeyedboy wrote: |
If you use the word "great" to describe Cyberpunk 2077 today and then defend it as being "great" take the fucking responsibility and prove it!
But guess what? You can't. |
Tell me how you describe something that makes you have fun? You get happy? You have sense of pride and accomplishment? Makes you smile or chuckle? And who told you the game is great? Everyone defending the game here agrees there are problems - be it bugs, bad AI or some tedious quests. But hear me out - there are other words other than GREAT and TERRIBLE. YES? Unbelievable, you say? No, no. Listen, there is a word like GOOD, G-O-O-D ! Mindblowing isn't it?! It's a word that's between GREAT and TERRIBLE. Something like the grey is between the white and black.
Game IS GOOD! Not great, not terrible. But good. I still have fun, I like the combat, the side quests, the story, the world still looks great, many unique weapons. I don't have to love 100% of something to like it. You can like pizza but not pineapple pizza. Understand? Stop fucking thinking in black and white. There are other colours, even many of them. To tell me "STOP HAVING FUN" is like if I tell you stop breathing. Will you do it, just because someone tells you to? |
At this moment you are absent minded almost beyond measure. Get a damn grip, man.
Here is why I say that:
1. The subject was on Cyberpunk 2077 being a GREAT game and about people defending it as being GREAT. Not fun, not good, not black or white, not fun, not good. The term we discussed was "GREAT"!
When you saw that you could not support your well thought claim about my (in)ability to say stupid things, you turned it around in your favor, with terms like 'fun' and 'good'.
2. You and others took it personally and quoted me in your messages with an antagonistic attitude.
3. I did not refer to you personally in my message. I did not refer to anyone personally in this forum. It was a general observation - mostly about some people praising this - on ALL media platforms / Steam included. I only referred to people that claimed that the game was GREAT and those alone!
4. You are delusional as I never told you to stop having fun. Au contraire, I said that people have their own view on things and that's perfectly fine.
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TL;DR
Saw some "gaeMerZ" on YT praising this technical mastershit as a fantastical grEat game on YT and other platforms. And those people were at the center of my statement. And yes... maybe there are some... people around here that I am sure are ready to claim the same thing about it. But hey... I am fully entitled to sow the seeds of awareness among us.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jan 2021 16:37 Post subject: |
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A flawed game can still be good or great or whatever, it's a matter of taste really, and i can't figure that if you paid for the game you will defend it statement, i can give numerous examples of games i paid for and hated or vice versa. Haven't play CP2077 yet so can't judge.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jan 2021 16:43 Post subject: |
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But if someone describe the time he played as great then why not? If he had fun and like the world\gameplay and overall just really liked it then what's the problem?
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jan 2021 16:54 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | And those people were at the center of my statement. |
Yet why is the same anger unleashed on people you share time on this very forum with. There is no crusade to take on here that would have any effect on the game.
Just chill, I think everyone is on the same page here more or less as you may have noticed.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jan 2021 16:55 Post subject: |
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It is great for me. It could've been greater. It has a shit ton of flaws. The management level sadly tried to achieve something unreachable with their team and oversold their game. It's a big shame. I still like what I have here and I hope that improve on it, but I don't have high expectations.
1. I make a list.
2. Therefor I can draw any connection.
3. Which makes my point more valid.
4. You are of course entitled to your own opinion.
5. I'm still more right than you.
6. Your opinion is stupid.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jan 2021 16:58 Post subject: |
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Rohirirrrrrrrim / Nyumrhmemenienenh alt-account? 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Danyutz
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jan 2021 17:19 Post subject: |
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Oh deer, this discussion is still at the same stage, i'll come back in a few pages, maybe something game related will be posted.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Jan 2021 20:01 Post subject: |
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Just enjoy the conversation without butt-hurts, nubs.
Trust me: this place is heaven compared to... I don't know...  Resetera or even Steam...
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Jan 2021 02:33 Post subject: |
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So... I guess I'm now almost ready to start the last mission. All yellow markers complete, only 4-5 cars left to buy and one story that did not trigger (brendan). I spent at least 6 hours completing blue ncpd calls too until I understood that those are randomly generated and don't need to be completed
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Jan 2021 09:41 Post subject: |
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It certainly feels as if the performance goes down over time, but I'm not sure if re-loading a save also is enough. It's not enough to make me restart the game 
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Jan 2021 10:04 Post subject: |
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Yea I restart the game every 2-3 hrs.
The framerate in my case usually goes from around 90 fps to 60 within 3 hrs of play time.
I compared this plenty times in a very specific position within the appartment, same time of day, it's definitely a thing.
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Jan 2021 11:02 Post subject: |
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They said "within 10 days" on 13th january..so...Either today or tomorrow.
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Jan 2021 11:11 Post subject: |
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Prolly today, as tomorrow is Saturday? Not sure how's their work schedule tho.
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Jan 2021 11:13 Post subject: |
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| madness wrote: | | They said "within 10 days" on 13th january..so...Either today or tomorrow. |
Or... they lied again
Anyway, post 1.06 there was no other patch or hotfix, right? At least none that I can find online to download (cracled version).
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Shinin
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Jan 2021 11:15 Post subject: |
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I wouldn't get my hopes up then for it coming either today or tomorrow:(
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