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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jan 2021 15:35 Post subject: |
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Is the isodemo worth it? I remember with Hitman 2, the online stuff is like half the game/experience.
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
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tere911
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jan 2021 20:38 Post subject: |
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Superb game! 5+ Really liking it.
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jan 2021 22:21 Post subject: |
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| Il_Padrino wrote: | | Is the isodemo worth it? I remember with Hitman 2, the online stuff is like half the game/experience. |
Get a 100% savefile from the ruskie site to have all the tools unlocked and you're set. There will be no ranking system but you can do that in your head.
Also the music in this game is superb.
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HubU
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jan 2021 22:27 Post subject: |
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| Il_Padrino wrote: | | Is the isodemo worth it? I remember with Hitman 2, the online stuff is like half the game/experience. |
They made sure solo/offline mode (which I guess they know as "pirate mode") gives no whatever.
You still get to experience the FULL MISSION, but NEVER could you get anything that's not barebone.
In a sense, that's what I'd call good, if not apex anti-piracy policy.
"Sure, you'll bypass our game's anti-haxx0r security. But then, by essence, you'll only be able to experience a small-ish x% of the game.
Want more? Buy it.
Anyway, except for the manor, and the overall "new mode" of making level smaller but way more interactive is a contoversial choice, but one I like.
Constant for the new instalments, for sure, but here, they felt kinda messy and uninspired.
As always, they will churn out levels and all again, so it's worth, while already diluted per se, and while very well made, sound more like a H2 DLC than H3.
"Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." ~Berthold Auerbach
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jan 2021 09:23 Post subject: |
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game is just more of the same, both 2 and 3 are like expansions to 1 and i think they should have kept episodic release as there is plenty to do in an area if you want and enough to keep you playing until next episode. but now if you have all episodes you just want to push forward. this is like netflix releasing a full season of a show where people forget about it after a few days vs weekly where people are constantly talking, and clearly the game benefits the episodic format.
playing offline there is no problem if you only want to do story, for a first mission play you dont need anything, if you want to unlock everything for replayability get a full save.
still the most interesting parts of the game that i found are the stories within missions and the map itself, the extra challenges with the exception of maybe 1-2 are just the same for every map and does get boring at some point.
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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xExtreme
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jan 2021 09:39 Post subject: |
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I have to say that Hitman 3 brought me back somehow, I'm not playing games anymore but back in the days of Silent Assassin I was sleeping in that game cause I liked it way too much, didn't play the new ones Hitman 1 and 2 but started now through Hitman 3.
Not playing that much anyway but still whenever I get some free time I'm gonna open this up and play the whole trilogy.
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vurt
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jan 2021 10:11 Post subject: |
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| HubU wrote: | | Il_Padrino wrote: | | Is the isodemo worth it? I remember with Hitman 2, the online stuff is like half the game/experience. |
They made sure solo/offline mode (which I guess they know as "pirate mode") gives no whatever. |
No what?
Explain what offline mode will lack in comparison to the full game. "Unlock everything with a 100% save" also isn't a good explanation of what will be missing. Thanks!
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jan 2021 12:01 Post subject: |
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did covid clouded your senses?
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jan 2021 13:05 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | | HubU wrote: | | Il_Padrino wrote: | | Is the isodemo worth it? I remember with Hitman 2, the online stuff is like half the game/experience. |
They made sure solo/offline mode (which I guess they know as "pirate mode") gives no whatever. |
No what?
Explain what offline mode will lack in comparison to the full game. "Unlock everything with a 100% save" also isn't a good explanation of what will be missing. Thanks! |
From Hitman (1) Steam forums, a post from 2018:
| Quote: | Offline you have story mode only.
Online you have leaderboards, challenge completions, item unlocks, start location unlocks, mastery unlocks, contracts mode, featured contracts, escalation missions, etc
Basically offline you have about 2 hours of story to play through.
Online you have a few hundred hours of challenges and contracts along with things to unlock, online is all of the replay value. Offline is just the shell of the game. |
I'd say it's the same thing for Hitman 2 and 3.
In conclusion, you need online for the full experience. |
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vurt
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vurt
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vurt
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jan 2021 17:36 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jan 2021 19:07 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | Ok, still really doesn't say a lot but i didn't play the earlier games so i'm not familiar what these things even does (well maybe hitman 1 but it was ages ago) too expensive anyways  |
I know.
But that' all I could come up with in 4.5 seconds while doing you a service.
At 5 seconds I have to start taxing you so... |
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vurt
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jan 2021 19:37 Post subject: |
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| Yondaime wrote: | These newer Hitman games are all about the challenges to be honest.
Learning the patterns of targets and the layout and placement of items/shortcuts/paths and using them to achieve kills in creative ways.
You can of course do all those things without the challenges as such but it gives you goals to dismantle and go for.
I think it's fair to say that playing the pirate version will give you a proper taste of the game. And if you want a more substantial version of that then you can always buy the game.
If you're like me and you want to complete all the challenges in all the levels then you'll have a fair amount of hours with the legit version.
I've completed every level-unique challenge for 3 / 6 levels now and I have 18h 29m played.
And no, when I say challenges I'm not talking about achievements or collectables, though they do overlap a lot in the game.
These newer Hitman games are not without their faults but I do enjoy them a lot. Every level is kind of like an explorative puzzle to solve and memorize and then pull off in efficient ways.
For me it gives me enjoyment in the same way that the Souls games do (even if they're different kinds of games), they reward knowledge, patience and good timing.
The older Hitman games are still better though. |
Thanks, seems cool. I remember the first hitman very vaguely, i didn't like it as much as e.g the Thief games. What i do enjoy is if the level design is very open ended, very unlinear feel, is this better or worse than the older games there?
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jan 2021 22:19 Post subject: |
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| Yondaime wrote: | These newer Hitman games are all about the challenges to be honest.
Learning the patterns of targets and the layout and placement of items/shortcuts/paths and using them to achieve kills in creative ways.
You can of course do all those things without the challenges as such but it gives you goals to dismantle and go for.
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So, it's like Blood Money?
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ixigia
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2021 04:51 Post subject: |
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I decided to replay all the classic Hitmen in a row just a few months ago, they definitely do hold up surprisingly well. The original game clearly is the one that suffers the most because of its rudimentary (yet brilliant for the time) mechanics and controls, but Hitman 2, Contracts and Blood Money all manage to provide unique and satisfying old-school romps that genuinely classify as timeless. Especially Blood Money, which is still the most inspired and most focused-yet-sandbox-y Hitman experience to date in my opinion.
The nuHitman collection might have larger layouts and more bizarre ways to murder targets, but its structure is essentially also a more trivialized and mundane version of the classic one. In order to incentivize replayability and promote the internal XP system the formula suffered the introduction of too many generic items and detached scripts that didn't feel as homogeneously integrated into the main game as they were in the past, without mentioning the jeopardizing effect that the online component has on the core gameplay and the fact that some of the signature features from the series never saw the light in the reboots.
Although I still do enjoy the new games, they ultimately come up as a bit soulless to me, so to speak. It is however possible to partially mitigate the modern flaws by disabling all the silly helps/guides as well as the XP and HUD/minimap and try to experience the levels in the most immersive way (mostly) free from external handholding. That's in my opinion the *only* viable way to play nuHitman and maximize its qualities despite..everything. 
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2021 04:54 Post subject: |
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it's a mod on the nexus so I thought it's alright to share, delete if it isn't for some reason.
This mod unlocks sniper and online missions to be playable offline.
https://www.nexusmods.com/hitman3/mods/5
works on Yarr
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vurt
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2021 13:35 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2021 14:17 Post subject: |
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| FireMaster wrote: | it's a mod on the nexus so I thought it's alright to share, delete if it isn't for some reason.
This mod unlocks sniper and online missions to be playable offline.
https://www.nexusmods.com/hitman3/mods/5
works on Yarr |
It says I am offline and I cant play anything that requires to be online. What kind of mod is this....
Edit: It enables the disabled missions under campaigns. Its all good.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Jan 2021 21:17 Post subject: |
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xExtreme
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Jan 2021 22:08 Post subject: |
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finished and was great, but felt a bit short, 2 of the 6 levels werent like the usual big levels, also first two games had extra short campaigns and extra levels. too early for this game but with how it ended it felt final.
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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